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5 minutes ago, Clipper said:

Of course this gives RCL its next reason for failing to deliver and may in fact give them their final reason to cancel the project completely. Oh we would've finished this project but this vexacious court case was a distraction and now with people being persuaded by trolls to ask for refunds we no longer have the funds for production.

 

I mean it would be an argument so full of holes even a colander would hold more water BUT the zealots will continue to BELIEVE!!!! And when Levy comes for cash again for the next project they'll line up like mugs

 

It is depressing.

 

ZXVega mugs? I'm in!

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1 minute ago, deKay said:

 

ZXVega mugs? I'm in!

1st year they'll update regularly and sound enthusiastic

2nd year 3 months over the deadline they'll show pre-renders of a mug. Certain FB posters will start the defence force pointing olut its hard to organise mug manufacture

3rd year With no mugs in sight RCL will post pictures of some mocked up boxes and 7 mugs that are definitely real but you can only see them from 1 angle - they will blame the toxic community and trolls for the delays

after 3 yrs they'll post videos of blank mugs being made in some anonymous facility with no indication of Vega branding and say they will be in backers hands within weeks

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Clipper said:

1st year they'll update regularly and sound enthusiastic

2nd year 3 months over the deadline they'll show pre-renders of a mug. Certain FB posters will start the defence force pointing olut its hard to organise mug manufacture

3rd year With no mugs in sight RCL will post pictures of some mocked up boxes and 7 mugs that are definitely real but you can only see them from 1 angle - they will blame the toxic community and trolls for the delays

after 3 yrs they'll post videos of blank mugs being made in some anonymous facility with no indication of Vega branding and say they will be in backers hands within weeks

 

 

also... "after giving our mugs to a bunch of 5 yr olds to test out, they identified a minor problem. the mugs cannot hold any liquid. we are working flat-out round the clock to rectify this problem."

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35 minutes ago, maryliddon said:

Backer pledges are now officially sales.

 

RCL suddenly owe a shit load of VAT :D

 

Their accounts are due in at the end of the month, this should reflect that.

 

I assume a well meaning citizen has raised the issue with HMRC?

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I can't deal with that guy's vids/voice/randomness for longer than about 30 seconds, but it seems he has been calling out the vega+ charade (and Lee Faux-garty in particular) since almost day one, so kudos.

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Just now, Goose said:

Are we looking at prototypes here? We’re still at that stage?

 

That's all they have, it's all they've ever had.  With the looming threat of small claims court cases they will be looking to prove that it's still being worked on.  This new deadline pushes it off for several more months, gives them a chance to figure out what to do  to get out of this mess :lol:

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holy shit, those excuses!

 

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-sinclair-zx-spectrum-vega-plus-console-games#/updates/all

 

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Q1: Are the cases 3D Printed?

A: No they are not. We have purchased two full sets of tools. The only 3D printed cases we ever produced were the ones Chris Smith created to take to CES in Las Vegas in Jan 2016. You will be able to see in the coming footage and updates that these are steel tools capable of producing 100k units. And that is definitely NOT a 3D printer.

 

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Q2: You had a fully working prototype when you launched the campaign, what happened?

A: Yes we did. Unfortunately, former RCL partners Chris Smith and Paul Andrews refused to hand over the necessary code. We were forced to commission and pay for new software, one of the main reasons for delays. We also had to commission and create a second set of CAD Designs for exactly the same reason.

 

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Q3: There are rumours you don't own the IP for the original Vega?

A: We not only legally own it - we also paid an ADDITIONAL £10k to Chris Smith in June 2016 when he demanded it. Chris Smith was also working on the C64 code whilst still a director of RCL which was a serious conflict of interest under the Companies Act.

 

Q4: You haven't paid any money to Great Ormond Street Hospital as promised. Why?

A: We did – and it has been publicly confirmed by GOSH's Head of Fundraising. Don't believe all you read in some online press or on social media. We’re also working with a second charity, and when we are contractually allowed to say who this is, we will.

 

Q5: You haven't paid the Vega games rights owners.

A: We HAVE paid, but we cannot pay for what our former sales agent, Nick Cooper of Cornerstone Media International, received. Last year we obtained several court orders against Mr Cooper, who received nearly £100k OUTSIDE of the terms of his contract - and in direct contradiction to all internal paperwork. The Royalties for these sales of the original Vega remain unpaid; RCL have never received the income.

 

Mr Cooper first received income directly -  and outside of the scope of his contract - in October 2015, eight  months before his contract was terminated due to his failure to account to RCL for sales of the original Vega Games Console. It should be noted that this is not the product you have pledged for.

Mr Cooper walked out of court on January 6th 2017, liquidated his company, then late last year declared bankruptcy having been found personally liable for the debt. His diversion of funds was supported by his friend, former RCL Managing Director Paul Andrews, and amounts to the region of £100k - in addition to this there are further unexplained funds received in and out of Cornerstone’s bank account of around £200K during the period in which Mr Cooper was our sales agent. The final destination of funds paid out remains unknown. Shocked? So are we. We are still in the process of recovering monies owed to us. The loss of those sales revenues had a major impact on RCL as did the time and effort we had to spend bringing Cooper to justice.

 

Q6: You claim to have made some design changes. What are they and why?

A: We have.

Originally, the central clear plastic panel clamped over the top of the black casing. This caused faint light bleed, a dust trap, and was vulnerable. It also failed the drop test, and so we went back to the drawing board for that. The V2 design makes the player experience more comfortable, the clear panel now snaps securely into the top and is more ergonomic in design. It also makes the back of the unit look a lot cleaner and is truer to the original concept designs.  

 

We have also changed the outer black casing; the V1 design encapsulated the bottom half of the unit - sitting on top, rather than the sleeker edge we now have. The new design creates a clean line and is far more comfortable to play for extended periods. This is obvious when you put the V1 unit side by side with V2.

 

And then, of course, there are those now infamous buttons. You'd be amazed what a difference 0.025mm can make to a product. We have also flattened the right-hand buttons. The ‘bobble’ shaped buttons were uncomfortable to play and served no purpose other than they looked pretty but felt awful to play. So we have taken care of that.

 

Q7: You had working units in November 2016. What happened?

A: Our former MD served us with an injunction, and it paralysed us. We are a very small team, and this dragged on for several months. He won 1 point and lost on the other 4. Nevertheless, it was timed to land the moment we were ready. The only positive we can see is that it has given us the time to look in detail at things and thus rectify some of the things we felt the V1 design lacked. We don't want this to be consigned to the back  of the cupboard after one play. We want to honour the legacy of the Sinclair brand.

 

Q8: Why have some comments been removed from the Indiegogo campaign?

A: When you receive a refund, you are no longer part of the campaign. As a consequence, you are no longer allowed to comment – much less harass. Most of the abusive comments were from people who had already been refunded, or had not been part of the campaign; however due to a glitch in the system, these people were still able to comment  - many of the more relentless ‘voices’ have proven connections to a rival company. Even if you are legitimately part of the Vega+  Indiegogo campaign, and if you harass or abuse, those comments will be removed; they make the experience unpleasant for everyone, not least minors, and they are in clear breach of Indiegogo’s rules.

 

Q9 Will the Vega+ still have 1000 games include?

A:  Yes, including many more great games we did not have on the original Vega

 

So after our silence we’re sure there are those of you wishing we’d stayed quiet as this update is so long.

But seriously, we were so over the endless nasty rubbish and manipulation of social media and targeted press that we are setting the record straight for those of you who are genuine fans of the Vega+ and have stood by us in the face of all alleged odds. You’re the reason we’re still here.

 

As a polite reminder, if you are going to comment on this post and we see any unnecessary abuse or rudeness, we will be forced to delete the comment and, in some cases, Indiegogo will ban people, in accordance with its Terms of Use. Please just be nice, and if you can’t be nice, be understanding. It’s always easier to be quiet than it is to be transparent. Be respectful.  

 

Let’s all keep our eyes on the end-game; your Vega+

 

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As a polite reminder, if you are going to comment on this post and we see any unnecessary abuse or rudeness, we will be forced to delete the comment and, in some cases, Indiegogo will ban people, 

 

But they said they can't delete comments (but they are aware of some bugs)

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any idea who or what

 

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The ‘troll campaign’ we have been blasted with for over a year -  and well before the Vega+ was even late - was intended  to silence us and drive the Vega+ campaign into failure, not least by attacking the team at RCL personally in an effort to damage personal and professional reputations.

 

Well guess what, we are STILL HERE - and about to turn up the volume full blast.

 

So this update is to reach out to those genuine fans who are owed an explanation re what is going on with their Vega+ and with RCL, the company behind its production.

Firstly we can only apologise that the forum on our Indiegogo campaign has become infused with ugly outpourings of horrendous attacks, swearing, personal abuse, harassment and misinformation by trolls and shills from the aforementioned group who seem to have nothing else to do, day in day out. That is now being dealt with.

Whilst the advice to us has been to not engage in any way with the trolls, we went silent. We then learned that negative rumours and misinformation that we cannot complete the project, were being perpetuated by the angry little trolls, many of whom we have finally been able to identify (more on that another time). So we’re setting the record very straight.

 

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I'm surprised they haven't bought a bunch of those £15 PSP bootleg things off AliExpress loaded an emulator, slapped Sinclair sticker on and call it a Vega+.

 

Although that would involve actually delivering something other than excuses. 

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Big news!

 

Indiegogo told the BBC on Friday that it had set an end-of-May deadline.

The US company intends to appoint a third-party collections agency to obtain and return the £85 to £100 paid by consumers to get one of the machines, if that target is missed.

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22 minutes ago, JPickford said:

I don't get why they are pretending to be still working on it.  It's only delaying the inevitable.

 

I think they'll shovel out a piece of shit and call it fulfilled. Financially, that is less of a risk for them now than failing to deliver anything.

 

Sticking out any device capable of running an emu may satisfy the contract.

 

Bankruptcy and examination of the accounts could equal jail time.

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9 minutes ago, Gregory Wolfe said:

 

I think they'll shovel out a piece of shit and call it fulfilled. Financially, that is less of a risk for them now than failing to deliver anything.

 

Sticking out any device capable of running an emu may satisfy the contract.

 

Bankruptcy and examination of the accounts could equal jail time.

 

Not sure they have the money or capability to do that.   

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