The Apprentice 2014 - BBC1 Wednesday 9pm

[gospvg]

I loved Daniel's football line back to Mark about a good number two does not make a good number one.

[Gabe]

I find, though, that a good number 2 usually includes a number 1 as well.

[Bacon Horsemeat]

Best moment of the week, David Seaman spraying champagne whilst everyone chanting "Seaman! Seaman!"

[Bacon Horsemeat]

FFS. Pamela is the only reason I watch it

Ella, Jemma and now Pamela. Only Roisin left.

[Treble]

Westminister

[Thwomp]

Daniel is such an arsehole.

[Minion]

Daniel is such an arsehole.

They pretty much all are. Only Sanjay, Solomon and Roisin seem likeable to me (even after Sanjay didn't take James intot he boardroom last week).

Roisin or Solomon winning would make me happy. I hope that James actually makes it to the interview stage now as he will literally be ripped apart which will be great TV.

[shesaid]

Well done on Lord Sugar for spotting the backstabbing by Lauren/Mark.

[Majora]

The Relationship Guru was such a fundamentally broken concept that I would have disqualified it from winning even if it had somehow sold more

I can't believe that at no point did someone say 'it is literally impossible to have an objectively correct answer to the question - which type of music do girls like least?'

It is so staggeringly, jaw-droppingly idiotic that the whole concept revolved around guessing the arbitrary answers of one man to a whole host of questions based upon subjective opinions and tastes. One of the most moronic products I've ever seen produced on the show.

[merman]

One point though. Going to a dedicated board game group with a relationship game was always going to fail. The only feedback they were ever going to get was "don't like it, won't play it". So blaming Pamela for sticking to a bad idea is not entirely fair.

[Bacon Horsemeat]

to be fair to Pamela, I did think she had a very particular vision to how the relationship game would turn out - the entire area isn't a goner, it just had to be portrayed in a very defined way i.e. targeting the Ann Summers adult risque audience. Not Toys R Us.

Of course just letting the others get on with it with their interpretations and hoping for the best without explaining that idea in any way led to a disjointed game that totally misses the mark. Mark seeing a prepubescent girl and adult male in the photo cover for the game as the "best photo ever" meant it was doomed to fail. And then letting Dan make the questions. Indeed the format of the game was flawed - from a simple "answer questions to progress" format to something that would involve couples more... carry out the tasks on the card to progress, how much you know each other etc.

[Wickedkitten]

Yeah, i think she was going gor something like Monogomy or Nookii and missed the mark entirely

[Mr Do 71]

Big Dawg advert

[Gabe]

I don't get why anybody would think that Big Dawg looked like a good product. A grey (silver if you're generous) can? How will that get you noticed?

Hope Lauren goes, I hate her voice.

[Azrael]

Glad Lauren went.

Both products were a bit shit.

[Gabe]

Yeah, they were. Interesting that she reckons Mark was setting her up from the beginning smacks of real bitterness. Obviously there was much more there that we didn't see, but she's been poor for many weeks and can't really complain too much about being fired.

[gospvg]

Both products dreadful, Lauren was not the reason they failed the task but she was the weakest in the group (excl Felippe - who I can't believe is still in the process)

[El Pibe]

It's a pretty poor bunch all round. Amazing that both Felipe and Dan are still there!

[Bacon Horsemeat]

Roisin to win.

Katie we haven't seen much of, she's playing the "stay out of the way" game and doing well from it, unlike many others.

Lauren was one of the strongest candidates, but again played that same game and got caught. Though still better than bullshit liar Mark and Dan.

[gospvg]

Roisin to win.

It's a bit odd this new business-format idea because surely Sugar knows which of the ideas he wants to invest his 250K & he is just sussing out how good are the candidates. Someone like Dan or James might have a really good business idea which is why they are still in the process.

[Tony]

Yep that's what probably happens. I wish he didn't see their plans until he picked someone. It would add more meaning to the tasks but he's obviously not going to take the risk that the £250k goes to some terrible idea that has no chance of working.

[angel]

Felipe is an absolute fucking idiot. I was sat saying look, every year someone directs a commercial and thinks he's martin scorcese. Then 30 seconds later felipe is accused of turning into martin scorcese by the narration. Would like to see that smug aussie go next, what a bellend.

[Chow]

I love how people still use the "I CONTRIBUTED" card. Yes, yes you did, but your contribution was utter shite. So maybe you should shut up about it.

"The task failed because of the rubbish design"

->

"I CONTRIBUTED BY MAKING THE WHOLE DESIGN"

That's not a good thing, you bloody idiots. Doing nothing > Doing lots of things all terribly.

[angel]

I suggested our drink be based on fruit and water. Thank fuck, we almost went with cat litter and oxo.

[rgraves]

I thought getting rid of Lauren on the basis of her 'not contributing' was a bit harsh - she pushed strongly to be the lead on the task and was only stopped because Mark flat out lied about his actual work to get the gig ahead of her. He should have gone for that and that alone IMO - it was clear as day he was setting Lauren up to take the fall if they didn't win from that moment on. Mind you, she clearly missed a trick by not pushing that fact and also not playing the old 'make me project lead on the next one and I promise you'll see what I can do' card.

I still won't ever work out where they get these people from - it's like they've put them through some kind of common sense removal training before they go on air. Some of the mistakes they make, and the knowledge they lack, is astounding.

[Pekoe]

Not really they represent the same level of idiots you come across in any workplace that believe management is a process of trotting out clichés and truisms.

[merman]

Daniel should have gone, the only thing he's good at is misrepresenting how good he is at everything.

[angel]

They are specially selected as delusional wannabes though, placed in unreal situations, told to act up, placed under absurd restrictions (no googling anything), filmed the entire day to catch any slip ups. I mean I love it, but ive no doubts that its a stitch up. Like she said, she did a 20 minute pitch with 2x erms, and they showed them. Imagine someone recording you at work all day being brilliant, then you spill your coffee on your shirt. Cue 1 clip of you doing with "bumbling idiot" music played over it, and a talking head from someone else (scripted) discussing your clumsiness.

[ZOK]

Well exactly, it's all nonsense. As someone observed up thread, now they have this stupid £250K investment doodad it's more ridiculous than it ever was, as the finalists are selected before filming even begins. Trying to apply any sense or logic to the process as depicted is foolish.

But if you enjoy watching idiots putting their hands over their faces and shaking their heads in disbelief on the regular, it simply can't be beaten.

[angel]

What I love about it is how serious they all take it, even sugar. They all bang on about "this process", as if its a real thing. Its not, its a tv show with some silly tasks, there is no process, its all very fluid and designed to make good tv. They talk about it as if theyre following a grand tradition or even an actual law. A few years ago, helen (welcome to my pie) told claud litner in all seriousness that she was a serious business startup condenter as she "had won 10 out of 11 tasks". Well whoop de do, 10 tasks! lets go into business. Its laughable, and for all the fakeness i genuinely believe the people do take it seriously.