The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

[Nobuo's Organ]

Soon

 

[Strafe]

41 minutes ago, Broker said:

The goron armour has the flameproof set bonus, which is great. I think only the rubber, goron and snowquill ones are worth it really.

 

THEY ARE ALL WORTH IT. A man in Hyrule is only as good as his wardrobe.

[Not Thread Owner]

3 minutes ago, Nobuo's Organ said:

Soon

 

 

Disneyland ain't what the brochure suggests.

[Not Thread Owner]

 

 

[Mr Cochese]

1 hour ago, _Pow_ said:

anyone fancy lending fancy letting me borrow all their zelda themed amiibos for a few days to unlock all the outfits?

 

The Birdmens champion should be in the next Starfox game

Yeah, right. You just want to "unlock all the outfits".

[CS2x]

15 hours ago, nakamura said:

The music quality in Skyward Sword is incredible and BotW is most certainly not a big step up. 

 

 

BotW has some fine music and great audio but it lacks in many areas. It can't have a consistent music all the time perhaps but I felt it needed more during certain areas. Hence why the castle is so epic.

 

Thanks...I must admit I had completely forgot about Skyward Sword's music (and didn't get very far into that game to hear enough of it either.) Those two you posted sound absolutely brilliant. I will investigate its further! Thanks again.

 

I was thinking about the few games prior to that one. Not that I don't think they also had fantastic music - they did. I adored so many themes in them.

But, while, say, WW's compositions were great, the sampled instruments in a lot of the soundtrack were a bit dry and unconvincing sounding to me. Which has its own charm, for sure! But even by that point I had heard a number of games with fully orchestral affairs and a more refined approach to sound design, and I longed to hear some more of that in a Zelda game. 

[nakamura]

I agree fully with your sound comments. I always found the GameCube audio to be disappointing, party because of the sheer compression it needed and partly with Zelda to its very poor instrumentation. 

 

BotW to me is a little too sparse. Yes I do enjoy the quieter moments and feel lighter approach was needed, Skyward Swords music was so incredibly good I missed that feeling too. 

[Strafe]

The classic tunics - are they all amiibo or can you find them in game? How many are there?

[smac]

1 hour ago, deKay said:

 

 

 

Hah, was there this lunchtime. I actually did the Korok seed (see that ring of boulders in the water?) by setting up ice columns - my idea was to throw the rock onto it, but it bounced off and slap-bang in the centre of the ring.

 

In-off the cushion! Result!

[Nespresso]

I think I've finally been bested. I simply can not complete this shrine. I guess now I know why it's called the Joloo Nah Shrine.

 

 

Fuck all of these apparatus shrines btw. Whoever thought rotating a controller around in your hands was a good idea for a puzzle is a vicious son of a bitch. 

[Jonny5]

I actually jumped in my seat playing this on the train today running up to a rock which then jumped out at me. I've seen them loads before but just didn't clock this one at all.

[Davros sock drawer]

Can I just express my love for the map in this? I'm exploring the area around Eldin's Flank and I've only just started to appreciate the relief contours and detail. It's awesome.

[R0b]

 

Someone called Lamar Odom is trending in the news on facebook just now. My first thought was that it was a particularly vexing BOTW shrine. 

[Azrael]

Was strolling along the beach when I spotted a Guardian, I remembered my training and parried his first laser, but then three of those Skeleton fucks popped out of the sand to ruin it all. Reloaded to try again but once again the Skeletons ruined things. So in the ultimate cheap move in reloaded, set a campfire skipped to morning time to take on the Guardian uninterrupted. Easily dispatched him with three parries. 

[Made of Ghosts]

The shrine I found today was named after what you say when there's a really interesting new work schedule.

 

Spoiler

 

[the_debaser]

Did the Rito boss earlier. Piece of piss. The divine beast beforehand was easier than most shrines too. 

[Shimmyhill]

Bokoblins out in the wild are harder than the dungeon bosses to be fair, esp a group of them!

[the_debaser]

I imagine it will be, the Zora power is pretty useful too though it takes a bit too long to power up. 

[Paulando]

37 minutes ago, Spainkiller said:

Yeah, that's the easiest one. Best power, though. Should be the first Beast, really; it's a shame the game kinda funnels you towards another one.

 

Yeah, I said it was odd Zora is the first one for most people as Rito is easier/more useful, but it certainly does funnel you that way. I started it again with a mate and trying to get to Rito took us through Hyrule and all of the guardians. It was a bit of a horrorshow at that early stage in the game where you have three hearts and a shield made of paper.

[joeplus]

Started off tonight's little session with a big to-do list, which of course went straight out of the window immediately because I saw a shrine. And the shrine was near Eventide island, so of course....

Spoiler

Whew, did it. The Hinox fight was frustrating - upped my attack and took half his health, then he cornered me and absolutely battered me. I ran away to get some space, but went too far and he disappeared! Health bar reset once he re-appeared, and I had basically no healing items left. Had to muddle together a fairly boring tactic of running in a circle and chipping away with bombs. Bit of an anticlimax, but I really didn't want to get booted back to the mainland again.

Worth it in the end, especially now I've met the sarcastic Rito with his flying course. Will have to go back there once I've built up the stamina wheel a bit for extra gliding power.

 

I've now gone into heavy hoarding mode, trying not to cook or sell anything unless I've got a bit of a stockpile. Really sucks when you've not got enough of some critter or monster part for a clothing upgrade.

 

[kensei]

About 3/4 now. 80 shrines, 3 beasts down. How the game rewards exploration really impressed me. I've not been actively searching out shrines for the most part, I've just been working through sections of the map and seeing the crack. I'll probably hit 90-100 shrines before I do Gannon. Given I've never really been a completionist, that's the vast chunk of the game just by playing through in my own style.

[Majora]

51 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

I imagine it will be, the Zora power is pretty useful too though it takes a bit too long to power up. 

 

I think it powers-up too quickly to be honest! Any quicker and it'd practically remove all tension altogether. 

 

Anyway I've decided that tomorrow is Hyrule Castle and Ganon day. I've 'only' done 86 shrines but I think I need to accept that I've been overpowered for a long time now and I'm also probably a bit burnt out on the game. It's been amazing but I've played it so intensively I'm kind of going through the motions now. 

 

Plus I do want to leave some things for a hard mode play through which I really hope will change the whole game up. Looking at my log book I still have 8 shrine riddles left and it's become apparent that even though I talked to everyone in each area after defeating each guardian's boss, I never actually bothered to complete most of their side quests. So again, that's another thing to incentivise another playthrough. 

 

Checking the map there are still fairly significant chunks I don't recall going to and which are totally bereft of either shrine icons or even Korok seed icons. 

 

It's been a pleasure but it's time to move onto something else now before I become even more burnt out. Tomorrow Ganon shall fall. 

[CS2x]

After hours and hours of roaming in various new landscapes over the last few days and encountering nothing but reams of enemies and wildlife in all that time, I've got to say that I would have appreciated some more villages and stray NPCs in general in BotW. I understand too much of that would defeat the premise of the world's situation, but a little more would help me care more about the world and change up the pace of exploring in an interesting way. I don't want to be negative about something people are enjoying so much (I notice I've been sharing petty grievances here and there), and it seems the mostly lonesome experience is something that really appeals here - so I think I'll bow out of too much further discussion until it clicks with me again. Someone posted a while back in this thread that they didn't find this as full as some other open world games they had played and got pretty eaten alive by other posters (maybe rightly so, maybe not - I can't remember much or find the posts...) What has been a revelation is the freedom of movement in this game, and I hope every 'open-world' attempt from now on takes note of that. But I would love more in the way of 'non-collectable' and non-combative interactions with others who inhabit the world in the future, and what I do miss from other open world titles is some of their bustling habitations or at least greater frequency of friendlier interactions. But I really mention this really because I want to share in the excitement others are still feeling even after plunging so many hours into it: how do you take the long, long stretches I'm talking about? Maybe I need to change my expectations. After all, I've loved 'survival' games before - my first experience of that being, perhaps bizarrely, MGS3: Snake Eater (which BotW is actually reminding me of in this respect! Obviously along with MGSV...both of which I loved, despite the lack of open-world populaces!) 

[Not Thread Owner]

Seems there are 76 side quests in total. Is this stat only shown after completing the game, in the same way the map % is?

[kensei]

6 minutes ago, CS2x said:

After hours and hours of roaming in various new landscapes over the last few days and encountering nothing but reams of enemies and wildlife in all that time, I've got to say that I would have appreciated some more villages and stray NPCs in general in BotW. I understand too much of that would defeat the premise of the world's situation, but a little more would help me care more about the world and change up the pace of exploring in an interesting way. I don't want to be negative about something people are enjoying so much (I notice I've been sharing petty grievances here and there), and it seems the mostly lonesome experience is something that really appeals here - so I think I'll bow out of too much further discussion until it clicks with me again. Someone posted a while back in this thread that they didn't find this as full as some other open world games they had played and got pretty eaten alive by other posters (maybe rightly so, maybe not - I can't remember much or find the posts...) What has been a revelation is the freedom of movement in this game, and I hope every 'open-world' attempt from now on takes note of that. But I would love more in the way of 'non-collectable' and non-combative interactions with others who inhabit the world in the future, and what I do miss from other open world titles is some of their bustling habitations or at least greater frequency of friendlier interactions. But I really mention this really because I want to share in the excitement others are still feeling even after plunging so many hours into it: how do you take the long, long stretches I'm talking about? Maybe I need to change my expectations. After all, I've loved 'survival' games before - my first experience of that being, perhaps bizarrely, MGS3: Snake Eater (which BotW is actually reminding me of in this respect! Obviously along with MGSV...both of which I loved, despite the lack of open-world populaces!) 

 

I dunno, I find it more packed with meaningful content than other open world games. There is always something to find. A shrine. A memory. A mini game (found a golf one tonight, randomly). A Great Fairy. A Korok Seed. A little mini quest of some description. A cracking view. An over world puzzle. You are never far from *something*.

 

I played Oblivion for some sickening amount of hours when it came out. Yes, the world was packed, but most of it was filler. You'd pass a cave and go in and have the same experience you had in all the other caves. And then you realise that you just going there to incrementally increase numbers, and the magic was gone. You'd talk to different people with nothing to say. Couldn't get into Skyrim after that either.

 

With this, everything seems to have have thought and placement. You don't feel you are going through the motions. And everything you do is fun at its core.

 

It's similar to Dark Souls in a way. You think it's sparse, but then you realise the world tells the story. And the placement of enemies and items has been thought out to an extreme degree. And you're happy to replay that bit 27 times because it differs each time and the core gameplay is fun.

 

It's a taste thing, but I much prefer this to the alternative.

[CS2x]

1 hour ago, kensei said:

 

I dunno, I find it more packed with meaningful content than other open world games. There is always something to find. A shrine. A memory. A mini game (found a golf one tonight, randomly). A Great Fairy. A Korok Seed. A little mini quest of some description. A cracking view. An over world puzzle. You are never far from *something*.

 

I played Oblivion for some sickening amount of hours when it came out. Yes, the world was packed, but most of it was filler. You'd pass a cave and go in and have the same experience you had in all the other caves. And then you realise that you just going there to incrementally increase numbers, and the magic was gone. You'd talk to different people with nothing to say. Couldn't get into Skyrim after that either.

 

With this, everything seems to have have thought and placement. You don't feel you are going through the motions. And everything you do is fun at its core.

 

It's similar to Dark Souls in a way. You think it's sparse, but then you realise the world tells the story. And the placement of enemies and items has been thought out to an extreme degree. And you're happy to replay that bit 27 times because it differs each time and the core gameplay is fun.

 

It's a taste thing, but I much prefer this to the alternative.

 

Thanks for that perspective - I actually found it really helpful, especially given you've also sunk many hours into Bethesda games! (In my case it's more their two Fallouts... And after those the older Fallout 2 and then the Stalker games - by that point I was pretty done with the dystopian diet...!)
 

The increased difficulty, increased scarcity of some things and the destructible items in BotW are very smart choices on Nintendo's part, giving the Shrines, fairies, korok seeds and everything else that can be discovered far greater meaning (along with their typically delightful presentation and inherent ingenuity in places.)

 

Perhaps part of the the problem is that there's been people around and watching when I've been playing recently. It seems better to keep this one to relaxing on your own more than with others watching, unless you're on a set piece of sorts...

 

Still, I do wonder how the experience would be with more strange settlements round more corners...

[Strafe]

Not bothered about the Dog, tell me where I can get that fetching tunic from. 

 

 

[CheekyLee]

Lemme tell ya ... I've seen some shit out there. I've done some shit, too. Crazy shit. Shit you wouldn't believe.

 

I've bowled Bokoblins with snowvalls. Beaten skeletons to death with their own arms.Parried a god-damn Guardian's laser back at it with nothing more than a pot lid. And rode a Lynel to his death.

 

I've calmed the Divine Beasts, freed the spirits inside them, and beaten down Ganon's minions to take back control.

 

I slayed the head of the Yiga Clan, single-handedly.

 

And I tamed a dragon.

 

None of this, though, matches up to the hardest challenge anyone in Hyrule can face. You think you're tough? You think you got skills?

 

You have no idea, fellah. You think you;re ready, but you just don't know anything, You want to be the real badass around these parts? Here's what you gotta do. Get your ass to Hateno Village.You're looking for ... a kid. A kid called Nebb. He'll set you a task which will have you tearing your hair out.

 

You'll lose sleep over this. I'm not even joking.

 

This kid wants to see weapons, see. Now, not just any weapon. Oh no, that'd be too easy. He asks for a particular weapon, and then you gotta show it to him. Sounds all well and good, right?

 

Welcome to hell, friend.

 

First thing he wanted to see was a Traveller's Sword. Shit, I must have dropped 50 of those by that point, was just the work of seconds to go find another.

 

Second weapon he asked for was a Fire Rod. No problem, I seen a Fire Wizard before. Off I went, and got him his Fired Rod. So, next he asks for a Moblin Club. "You can't get them around here", he says, and if I'd know then what I know now, I'd have told that little fuck where to shove his Fiire Rod.

 

Because, when he said "round here", he meant "anywhere in the world!"

 

I've been everywhere, killed every kind of Moblin a hundred times over. Not one of those big-nosed bastards has a club for me. Not the kind of club that's good enough for Nebb, at any rate.

 

"Here, kid" I said one time, as I showed him a Dragonbone Moblin Club. "Look at this beauty!" It wasn't good enough, though. Nor was the Spiked one I offered. Turns out, it has to be a plain, dull, non-special Moblin Cluib. Of the kind that NO FUCKING MOBLIN IN HYRULE WILL EVER BE SEEN DEAD WITH. Apparently.. And, I should know, I've killed every one of the bastards. I've gotten Spears and special Clubs. And arms. No fucking end of Arms. But not a single Moblin Club.

 

Nebb, you little shit. See this? It's the fucking MASTER SWORD. Otherwise known as the "Legendary Sword" and the "Sword that seals the darkness." You might have heard of it, being as it is destined to SAVE THE FUCKING WORLD. WHY THE HELL IS THIS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?

 

I'm strolling up with a Lightscale Trident, a Lynel Crusher, and assorted Guardian weapons. A SOLID GOLD BOW! And what does this little fuck want? A fucking MOBLIN CLUB, OF THE KIND THAT NO LONGER EXISTS. WHEN I DO FINALLY FIND ONE, NEBB, YOU'LL DEFINITELY SEE IT! I'LL BEAT YOU TO WITHIN AN INCH OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE WITH IT, YOU UNGRATEFUL LITTLE SHIT.

 

So, I'll carry on, committing Moblin Genocide. Sooner or later one of the ugly gets will have what Nebb wants. He'll get his wish, and I'll be free from this curse. But, he better not ask for anything more rare than a fucking tree branch this time.

 

Give me a Hinox, a Lynel, or a Molduga. I'll not even blink, all in a day's work. But, even mention a fucking Moblin to me and I start twitching.

[cohen205]

205 hours.

 

120 shrines.

 

Maybe now I can head into hyrule castle, (for the very first time, may I add) defeat calamity ganon, and get on with the rest of my life.

[smac]

What? I'm not happy after tracking down all the memory pic locations.

 

'Oh, Zelda told me to show you this...' There's 

another bloody memory to track down. And it's based on some muddy-looking painting that includes... some Guardians. Thanks; that really narrows it down.

 

Ruined pillars look like the plain before the fort, but I can't spot the location. What a pain.