Bloodborne - GOTD edition

[RareBirds]

The one that's part of Eileen's quest line? It's optional. I haven't done it - I believe you just get a badge that allows you to get a weapon and an outfit from the shop. 

[Coltrane]

1 minute ago, SuperMBo said:

The one that's part of Eileen's quest line? It's optional. I haven't done it - I believe you just get a badge that allows you to get a weapon and an outfit from the shop. 

 

Yeah that's the one. He has a chikage which I believe causes his hp to drain? There used to be an exploit where you wait for him to go 2H then bait him to the stairs. If he stays in 2H mode and walks away, his hp will eventually drain down to 0 and he'll die but I *think* that was patched in an update. According to reddit anyway..

 

I might try another few times but if it's not essential then I might have to leave it as I'm not really good enough for these stupidly quick kind of fights with other hunters. Shame though, as I wanted to see the end of the questline.

[Davros sock drawer]

Ah yes, the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst.

 

All I will say is that he's very optional. I didn't even see him on my first play through, as Eileen died fighting Henryk.

 

However - I found him very vulnerable to the charged R2 of a certain DLC weapon. At +10. And it was still fucking hard.

 

So my advice is to come back later. Much later...

[Coltrane]

Yes, good advice. A lot of people are saying it's the hardest fight in the game. I don't feel ready for it yet so am going to leave it for now I think. Onwards with the story.

[Davros sock drawer]

Yeah, he's a prick. And he uses Numbing Mist too.

[Coltrane]

Yep, they patched him so he hardly uses the 2H anymore and basically skins you alive on the stairs if you try and back off. He basically parried me with his repeating pistol and then visceral attacked me on one of the fights. 2 shots and I'm dead and that's with around 1100 HP. FUCK RIGHT OFF! 

[Andy XC]

24 minutes ago, Coltrane said:

 

Yeah that's the one. He has a chikage which I believe causes his hp to drain? There used to be an exploit where you wait for him to go 2H then bait him to the stairs. If he stays in 2H mode and walks away, his hp will eventually drain down to 0 and he'll die but I *think* that was patched in an update. According to reddit anyway..

 

I might try another few times but if it's not essential then I might have to leave it as I'm not really good enough for these stupidly quick kind of fights with other hunters. Shame though, as I wanted to see the end of the questline.

I did that fight last week (all patches were installed) and I was having a few problems. However once I found out that he only has one healing portion then it became a battle of who would bleed out first.

After I locked onto him, I backed away towards the entrance and just baited him (stay near the entrance)...it was quite easy but there was a lot of cheese involved.

[KartoffelKopf]

Yeah, I seem to remember drawing him down to the stairs worked as it makes it harder for him to dodge. Bait him and hit him with a well-timed charged R2 (something with some reach) and you're golden. 

[Davros sock drawer]

Great fight against OoK by the way Bagapeas. I know that panic when a boss is down to a tiny sliver of health all too well.

 

That's usually when I start trying to Indiana Jones them with the pistol...

[Coltrane]

23 minutes ago, Andy XC said:

I did that fight last week (all patches were installed) and I was having a few problems. However once I found out that he only has one healing portion then it became a battle of who would bleed out first.

After I locked onto him, I backed away towards the entrance and just baited him (stay near the entrance)...it was quite easy but there was a lot of cheese involved.

 

Just tried that method but ran out of blood vials in the end. I was trying to coax him by shooting him a lot and just generally trying to lure him down. I think he had about 1/8 of his HP left before he got me because I was too slow to dodge his pistol + stab combo. I think I was getting bored!

 

Can see it working though but may need to do a bit of farming first.

[Andy XC]

7 minutes ago, Coltrane said:

 

Just tried that method but ran out of blood vials in the end. I was trying to coax him by shooting him a lot and just generally trying to lure him down. I think he had about 1/8 of his HP left before he got me because I was too slow to dodge his pistol + stab combo. I think I was getting bored!

 

Can see it working though but may need to do a bit of farming first.

Poison knives should help things along if you get bored (perhaps wait until after he has used his blood vial).  What I did was attack him everytime he started to walk back from entrance, it wasn't a very long fight but I guess it depends on how aggressive you want to be.

[Coltrane]

2 minutes ago, Andy XC said:

Poison knives should help things along if you get bored (perhaps wait until after he has used his blood vial).  What I did was attack him everytime he started to walk back from entrance, it wasn't a very long fight but I guess it depends on how aggressive you want to be.

 

Yes, I can see posion knives would help but I can't seem to buy them anywhere. Is there a good place to farm them? I got a few from the chalice dungeon I tried yesterday so might go back in and see if I can pick up a stack.

 

I think being aggressive is usually good in this game so maybe I need to try that more. I was quite wary of him because he can so easily kill you if you fail to dodge his repeating pistol shot and katana stab.

 

I'll try him again tomorrow.

[Davros sock drawer]

Which weapon are you using?

[Coltrane]

LHB +7 is my main weapon. Also have the Tonitrus +7 as my back up.

 

I do have the Cannon +5 as well. Was going to use it against Rom but didn't need to in the end.

[JohnnyRyall]

I don't know if you necessarily want to play too aggressively against the Crow. You have a lot of space in the cathedral and most of his attacks don't have much range so I would keep a bit of distance and just wait for parry opportunities. A lot of the chikage attacks he uses have a long delay - there's one where he draws back his blade, pauses for a split second, then draws back again slightly before thrusting. Use the pause as a cue to shoot so you hit him as he draws back the second time.

 

You encounter a weaker version of him as a normal enemy in the lower depth chalices so I've had a lot of practice!

[JohnnyRyall]

Am has replaced BLB as my new arch-nemesis. I hammered her in the NF last night and then almost immediately afterwards encountered her at the bottom of a lower Loran chalice, where she in turn hammered me:

 

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Gave up after a few failed attempts, so I've got a battle with her to look forward to later. I hope it won't take more than a few attempts, but I've got the feeling it's going to be one of those long, drawn-out battles where I repeatedly get her down to an inch of her life and then do something stupid...

[bagapeas]

I've just opened up that chalice, so something to look forward to....  AB in the previous one took a good few attempts earlier on.

[Andy XC]

She gets everywhere, I'm currently fighting her in the Defiled Chalice (the one required to get to the Queen) and she too hammered me, which is a shame as I've done all the (required) dungeons on a previous character.

 

I'm really not sure why I am bothering putting myself through the pain again.

[RareBirds]

And OoK is dead! I tried to be one of the cool kids and upload my kill video but clearly cocked something up, as I've got a 2 second video of me running about and none of the actual fight. I was under the impression that it automatically saved the last 15 minutes - do cut scenes reset it or something? 

 

Anyway, you'll have to take my word for how bad I am at phase 1 - I just constantly wander into his uppercut, misread what attack he's doing and so on. Conversely, I'm pretty good at phase 2 - in general I find aggressive, up close bosses easier. He's so aggressive in that phase that I was almost constantly behind him with one dodge - I don't think he hit me once. So my kill video would have been about 3 minutes of me limping through phase 1, using about 10 vials, and then seemingly someone else taking the controller and doing phase 2 like a boss. 

 

And then me staring at the cut scene in bemusement.

 

[RareBirds]

AHA!!!! And LtFV too!!! Second try. Took all my vials but that's the DLC done.

[Davros sock drawer]

Well done! I foolishly changed my mind about leaving LtfV alone and moving on from NG++, and have spent most of the day failing to beat him.

 

Re. Your video - I think that if you hold the button down or something it records from that point onwards, rather than capturing the last 15 mins. Something like that anyway.

[RareBirds]

And that's the game done - after the DLC bosses, the last three main game bosses were pretty straight forward. 

 

I also did the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst (or whatever his name is) before finishing up storyline (I forget who it was who was asking about that and its on a previous page - Coltrane?) - he's pretty trivial at end game levels, plus when I first came across him hunters were still pretty scary to fight. Post DLC there's no fear to any of his moveset / abilities and I just baited moves, dodged and then stunlocked him. Most importantly, that crow set looks terrible on my character and I will never use it. 

 

Again, preaching to the converted but this is a brilliant, brilliant game. Can't believe it took me so long to play it (I bought it at release, played it once, thought it was too hard and then played Destiny for about 18 months). Still got rough plans of getting platinum - perhaps NG+ to get one more ending and then a strength based character to use the weapons I didn't get to see for the other. Went straight through and did CB and G on NG+ immediately after finishing it - echoes really stack up so I bought loads of the weapons I need for that achievement too.  

 

 

[bagapeas]

Fantastic game.   I had got a bit further but similarly gave up and sank all my time into Destiny.  Agree on the final bosses, though on the last one I had no vials left and a tiny amount of health left but just sneaked it.

 

I've been through to CB but will come back for FG as working my way through the chalices, though coming up against my second abhorrent beast in quick succession is a bit of a downer.

[JohnnyRyall]

After much blood, sweat and tears*, Amy is down:
 

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*I exaggerate a little, but I did have a lot of stupid deaths as predicted, mostly to those bloody laser beams.

[JohnnyRyall]

I mentioned earlier the bloody crow variant that you encounter in the chalices. I had a great round against him and a bone ash hunter tonight, in one of those huge arenas you find in the Loran chalices:
 

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I love the way this game can make even ordinary encounters seem as tense and dramatic as boss fights.

 

@davros probably goes without saying, but have you tried equipping a rune that reduces fire damage to help with LtFV? I fought him yesterday (on NG+1 not 2), but with charred hunter gear and a fire reduction rune he didn't hit too hard at all, which was lucky as I couldn't remember his moves and was all over the place during the battle.

 

You can also shoot him a few times in the head at the start of the battle to stagger him for a visceral and get the first section of the fight over with pretty quickly.

[Quest]

Dunno where is best to go, now....

 

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I've beaten CB, FG, BSB and WoH. Got myself runed up and ready to go, only to find I've no real aim.

 

Went back and cleared up a few little routes I'd left earlier in Yarnham, but I don't think I have much else to do there for now. The minigun bloke in Old Yarnham still slaughters me, so I'm leaving him alone. Hemwick was fully explored, I think.  Cathedral Ward seems most likely, but I've hit a few dead ends. The boss there, VA, is too much for me right now, I think. Some guy behind a door wanted a password, while another route took I me to a closed door and a scary blue portal thing so I ran away.

 

I did end up in a prison for a while, too. Dunno what was going on there, but it was also horrible so I ran away (again).

 

Not really sure where to focus my efforts. I'm going to have to kill VA, aren't I?

[Davros sock drawer]

7 hours ago, JohnnyRyall said:

 

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@davros probably goes without saying, but have you tried equipping a rune that reduces fire damage to help with LtFV? I fought him yesterday (on NG+1 not 2), but with charred hunter gear and a fire reduction rune he didn't hit too hard at all, which was lucky as I couldn't remember his moves and was all over the place during the battle.

 

You can also shoot him a few times in the head at the start of the battle to stagger him for a visceral and get the first section of the fight over with pretty quickly.

 

Tried that, but the fire damage isn't the problem really. It's more the physical damage. 

 

I didn't think you could stagger bosses like this with gun shots, can you? Isn't it the usual case that they stagger once you've done enough points of damage?

[Davros sock drawer]

1 hour ago, Nequests said:

Dunno where is best to go, now....

 

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Not really sure where to focus my efforts.

 

Hate to tell you this but...

 

...you need to beat VA

[Quest]

Nooooooooooooo. Oh well, best get on with it!

[JohnnyRyall]

2 hours ago, Davros sock drawer said:

I didn't think you could stagger bosses like this with gun shots, can you? Isn't it the usual case that they stagger once you've done enough points of damage?

 

I think it is related to damage. But with some bosses you have to deal enough overall damage to stagger them (LtA), while with others you need to deal enough damage to a particular weak point for it to work (i.e., I don't think you can stagger Amy by hitting her arms, for instance - it has to be her head and you have the land the hits in relatively quick succession to get her to stagger). LtFV and Cleric Beast are both really susceptible to damage to the head, and from my experience a few shots at the start of the battle is enough to stagger them. That said, I'm using a +10 pistol with a lot of points in bloodtinge, so maybe not typical, but it shouldn't take much more than that whatever build you have. Perhaps try using some bone ash to get your damage up?