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Yeah, and it was available on Amazon because Syfy decided they didn't want the streaming rights when they bought the show. I don't blame Syfy for concluding that they couldn't keep the show going, but deciding in the year of our lord 2015 that you're happy for someone else to have the streaming revenue for a show you're financing is monumentally stupid and the fault lies entirely with them.

 

Edit - Not even the DVD rights!

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Finally got around to watching the last season. I have mixed feelings about The Expanse. I didn't buy into the whole Marco/Filip plotlines at all over the last few seasons but I do still enjoy the politics, space battles and 'realism' of the world building. I feel like the main cast are mostly great actors but have limited material to work with. I felt in the first few seasons there were some genuinely exciting, shocking and tense bits but that gradually went away over time. Its definitely a very competent show overall but for me its always had this B-tier sci-fi trapping to it with the characters and plotlines, and that got worse in some ways as it went on. Although I found the last 3 seasons entertaining I thought the first 3 were better, I guess the stakes felt higher and there were more twists and turns - and there weren't crap characters like Marco and Amos's murderer lady.

 

But even saying that, I greatly admire The Expanse for its grounding in science, politics, its portrayal of believable societies, its cast, visuals and some great characters like Avasalara, Drummer and Amos. I do hope they revisit it. This last season was mostly a big anti-climax for me, I was expecting a non-stop ride of action, hard decisions and existential threat, but by episode 4 I knew only a few threads would be pulled on. The inclusion of the protomolecule subplot in this series is completely redundant if they don't continue the show. 

 

Although I wouldn't say The Expanse is essential viewing any longer (except the first few seasons), I am very glad we had it and showed there's still a market for intelligent hard sci-fi TV out there. I hope it inspires more politics and realism inspired sci-fi shows in future. 

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I think this show went downhill after season 4.

 

It probably had the least exciting or interesting final season ever.


Too much Naomi and her boring family politics.

 

Marco was good but everything around him was trash. 

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Given that it started life as only a setting for a planned MMO game then a PBM RPG, the authors managed to flesh it out a decent amount.

 

Shame Amazon didn't give them the money to give it a proper send-off.

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Finally caught up on this. That's it? :blink:

 

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To end with "I guess we'll finally find out what happened to that protomolecule sample sooner or later" as the closing thoughts but not actuslly give the audience that resolve is a fucking piss take. Is that side story with the family, the girl and the creatures all we're getting?

 

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4 hours ago, Stigweard said:

Finally caught up on this. That's it? :blink:

 

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To end with "I guess we'll finally find out what happened to that protomolecule sample sooner or later" as the closing thoughts but not actuslly give the audience that resolve is a fucking piss take. Is that side story with the family, the girl and the creatures all we're getting?

 

It's essentially the setup for (not a book spoiler)

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a trilogy of tightly interlinked books, so yeah, not much else they could do except greenlight another three seasons, which JeffyBee won't do. The showrunner and writers didn't want to shortcut to the end of the story so they've got some room to do it properly down the road.

 

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It's essentially the setup for (not a book spoiler)

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a trilogy of tightly interlinked books, so yeah, not much else they could do except greenlight another three seasons, which JeffyBee won't do. The showrunner and writers didn't want to shortcut to the end of the story so they've got some room to do it properly down the road.

 

 

Still pretty shit that's what we get though.

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3 hours ago, Spacehost said:

It's essentially the setup for (not a book spoiler)

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a trilogy of tightly interlinked books, so yeah, not much else they could do except greenlight another three seasons, which JeffyBee won't do. The showrunner and writers didn't want to shortcut to the end of the story so they've got some room to do it properly down the road.

 

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It's set when they're a lot older in the books anyways. Saving money on the ageing makeup maybe?

 

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It's set when they're a lot older in the books anyways. Saving money on the ageing makeup maybe?

 

Or until (book spoiler)

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The technology to do aging makeup or do it digitally improves.

 

Saying that, in a series where the rich can live well into their 150s, everyone being 60 and looking like they’re 45 isn’t impossible.

 

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On 14/06/2022 at 11:47, Alan Stock said:

Finally got around to watching the last season. I have mixed feelings about The Expanse. I didn't buy into the whole Marco/Filip plotlines at all over the last few seasons but I do still enjoy the politics, space battles and 'realism' of the world building. I feel like the main cast are mostly great actors but have limited material to work with. I felt in the first few seasons there were some genuinely exciting, shocking and tense bits but that gradually went away over time. Its definitely a very competent show overall but for me its always had this B-tier sci-fi trapping to it with the characters and plotlines, and that got worse in some ways as it went on. Although I found the last 3 seasons entertaining I thought the first 3 were better, I guess the stakes felt higher and there were more twists and turns - and there weren't crap characters like Marco and Amos's murderer lady.

 

But even saying that, I greatly admire The Expanse for its grounding in science, politics, its portrayal of believable societies, its cast, visuals and some great characters like Avasalara, Drummer and Amos. I do hope they revisit it. This last season was mostly a big anti-climax for me, I was expecting a non-stop ride of action, hard decisions and existential threat, but by episode 4 I knew only a few threads would be pulled on. The inclusion of the protomolecule subplot in this series is completely redundant if they don't continue the show. 

 

Although I wouldn't say The Expanse is essential viewing any longer (except the first few seasons), I am very glad we had it and showed there's still a market for intelligent hard sci-fi TV out there. I hope it inspires more politics and realism inspired sci-fi shows in future. 

 

In fairness, the Marco/Filip stuff in the books was shit too. The last three books really improved things, imo. Those are set after the series though.

 

Although *major MAJOR BOOK series spoiler* the books 

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don't resolve the Naomi/Filip stuff, oddly.

 

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Book spoiler:

 

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That's kind of the point, at least according to (IIRC) the authors' notes on the connected short story. Sometimes when you do the right thing, you don't get to see if it worked. Naomi doesn't get to find out that she made her son a better person.

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