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World Cup 2014 - Germany win the WORLD CUP

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watching the draw on tv I can see where I think a lot of the old men roped in to help would like to reach in to draw the balls from

She is showing them off :)

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Group stage elimination for Holland and England then?edit: lmao, opening game against Italy in 99% jungle humidity at 2am UK time :facepalm:

What more can you ask for, for Roy's Boys?

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It is every English defenders duty to try and get Suarez banned for life... or at least a year. That's a great group for me. Italy are so hit and miss. They drew against New Zealand last time. Uruguay are probably close favourites. We could qualify - beat Italy. Hmmmm maybe, maybe not.

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Is it only me that thinks it could have been much worse? The Guardian are reporting it as a 'nightmare group'. Come on now.

Any group England seem unlikely to emerge from is a "nightmare group," so, well, any draw we'd have got at all.

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The same Uruguay that finished fifth in qualifying and needed to beat Jordan in a play-off to get to the World Cup? I'm not too worried.HODGSON OUT!

It's tough in South America qualifying, england would have a job finishing 5th

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B & G are pretty tasty (poor Australia). If Croatia and Mexico somehow sort themselves out by the World Cup then A could be fun too.

France won't believe their luck. It will take a spectacular implosion for them to fuck that one up.

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It's tough in South America qualifying, england would have a job finishing 5th

Uruguay aren't amazing though. Defence and midfield aren't really up to the standard of the attack. Still probably better than England though.

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Having more time now to reflect on the draw I actually think we will get through, it could have been worse we could have been with Brazil, Spain, Argentina or Germany. I think we have a chance against Italy & Uruguay. I've updated the first post with the groups/fixtures (GMT)

4 June 2014

Uruguay v Costa Rica, Estadio Castelao, Fortaleza, 20:00

15 June 2014

England v Italy, Arena Amazonia, Manaus, 02:00

19 June 2014

Uruguay v England , Arena de Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, 20:00

20 June 2014

Italy v Costa Rica, Arena Pernambuco, Recife, 17:00

24 June 2014

Italy v Uruguay, Arena das Dunas, Natal, 17:00

24 June 2014

Costa Rica v England, Estadio Mineirao, Belo Horizonte, 17:00

That first game is going to be a killer 2AM !!

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