Ultimate Team

[Mitchell]

20 minutes ago, Pants McSkill said:

HOWEVER.... With Sandro it means you could try Sane at LW if you started in a 433 flat. Sane would get 10 chem from green link to Aguero.

 

Oh, hang on it doesn't work, it screws up Otamendi.  You did mean like this? 

 

[Mitchell]

It's ok, I have Ederson on my bench. 

 

Blimey, this is hard work. 

[Pants McSkill]

15 minutes ago, Mitchell said:

 

Oh fuuuuuuck, that's what I've been trying to do, get Sterling and Sane in the same team without having to go back to Robertson and Laporte......

 

What does 8 chem mean? Does anyone actually know? Couple of points off all stats? Does anywhere like Futbin show what a players attributes would be on 10 chem, 9 chem, etc? I've seen people say it affects defenders more (mistakes) than attackers...

 

Futbin does!

 

On the right hand side of the player's page, you can show what different chemistry points do, and even see what Chem styles affect them in which manner.

 

Here's Mertens on 8 chem in a 100 chem squad on basic chem style:

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Mitchell said:

 

Oh, hang on it doesn't work, it screws up Otamendi.  You did mean like this? 

 

 

 

Ah bollocks, it does screw Otamendi. Ooops.

[Mitchell]

I never even noticed that. Amazing. Can't see it on mobile! 

 

That's nothing.... hardly any noticeable reductions for being an 8 chem vs. 10 chem. 1 point less sprint speed, no change overall to the Pace figure. 1 point less positioning, shot power, volleys & pens, no change overall to the Shooting figure. And so on. 

 

What the fuck is 9 then?!  Half points???!  Why did we care all this time! 

 

You could even be clever and offset some of the reductions, if they are above 99...

 

Great stuff, cheers Pants. I am thoroughly looking forward to tonight's sesh now. 

[Mitchell]

26 minutes ago, Pants McSkill said:

Ah bollocks, it does screw Otamendi. Ooops.

 

I think you missed my update post, it's fine, I just used Ederson from my bench.  God Bless Brasilia. 

[Pants McSkill]

I know I said investing is dead and trading is the way forward this Fifa, but I'm going to do some over the next week, and here's the reasons why, presented in a particularly annoying Q&A format.

 

-Alright then Mr 'I don't invest anymore', show us what you got.

Currently high rated golds are low. Not the lowest they've ever been, but lower than usual for this Fifa and waaaay lower than usual for previous Fifas.

 

-What the fuck does that actually mean Pants?

Well, high rated golds are non-special cards (so, just gold, not In-forms, Screams, et, al) with a rating of 84 and up.

The cheapest 85s, cheapest 86s, cheapest 87s, etc are cheap compared to what they normally sit at, and are much cheaper than they were in Fifa 19 at this part of the year.

Take Thiago, an 87 good nation, good league player. He's at 14.5k. He sat around 18-19k through October, then sat around 16k for a bit, but has been as low as 13.5k.

Last Fifa he was only an 86 rated, but sat at 19k in November... that's 5k more than he is now.

 

-YAWN. So the fuck what? You nerd.

Well how much lower can he go? More importantly, how much lower will EA want him to go?

 

-Like EA give two shits about the price of Thiago. They just want you opening packs.

EA do give two shits abut the price of 87s... because they want you opening packs!

Think of it this way. We need an incentive to spend real life money on a slot machine.

It can't all be about winning the jackpot - in this case packing Messi. Slot machines need to pay out small winnings here and there to keep you paying back in. 
Firstly to trick you into not being able to keep track of 'small winnings adding up' versus 'amount you've spent'. Secondly to give you a small 'reminder' dopamine hit that's a taster of the one you get when you pack Messi.

Now think on how hard it is to pack an 87. 

It rarely happens. So when it does happen, they want you to get excited about it... excited enough to chase that dragon.

 

-Yeah, fascinating. What's all that got to do with buying 87s now?

Black Friday is coming. Prices on Black Friday drop. 

 

-Why?

Lots more people buy the game in the sales, lots more people buy Fifa points in the Sales, so there's waaaaay more packs than usual being opened. Which means there's more supply. Which means Prices go down. Like, a lot. Like, as much as 50%.

 

-And?

And EA don't want 87s, or 86s, or 89s to drop more than they are currently, because then packing them won't be worth it. If an 87 costs 8k, it's doesn't give the punter that same dopamine hit when they pack one.

They can't stop prices from falling - supply and demand is the base of all economics. BUT... they can inflate the price of them before Black Friday so that the crash brings them to where they are now.

 

-Riiiiiiight.... so you're saying Big SBCs are coming this week or next that require 86s or 87s to remove the supply from the Market and push prices up?
BINGO.

 

-Nice one. You fucking nerd.

I might be wrong of course.

 

-...You might be wrong? I've already bought four thousand Marco Verrattis.

I was thinking of picking up one of each of the lower cost, higher rated cards.

You can find the 87s here:

https://www.futbin.com/players?page=1&player_rating=87-87&sort=ps_price&order=asc

Just change the 87-87 in the url to whatever number you like. Or use the drop down box on the page to determine the rating.

 

-Oh yeah. That would have been a better idea. 

I'll pray for a Ligue 1 SBC for you.

[Timmo]

4 hours ago, Timmo said:

 

Not tried it on Legendary yet but I can confirm it works on World Class!

 

Excuse the quality...

 

 

 

 

To expand on this, it seems to work better in the opposition half, just past the half way line.

[Keiths_Dad]

2 hours ago, Pants McSkill said:

I know I said investing is dead and trading is the way forward this Fifa, but I'm going to do some over the next week, and here's the reasons why, presented in a particularly annoying Q&A format.

 

-Alright then Mr 'I don't invest anymore', show us what you got.

Currently high rated golds are low. Not the lowest they've ever been, but lower than usual for this Fifa and waaaay lower than usual for previous Fifas.

 

-What the fuck does that actually mean Pants?

Well, high rated golds are non-special cards (so, just gold, not In-forms, Screams, et, al) with a rating of 84 and up.

The cheapest 85s, cheapest 86s, cheapest 87s, etc are cheap compared to what they normally sit at, and are much cheaper than they were in Fifa 19 at this part of the year.

Take Thiago, an 87 good nation, good league player. He's at 14.5k. He sat around 18-19k through October, then sat around 16k for a bit, but has been as low as 13.5k.

Last Fifa he was only an 86 rated, but sat at 19k in November... that's 5k more than he is now.

 

-YAWN. So the fuck what? You nerd.

Well how much lower can he go? More importantly, how much lower will EA want him to go?

 

-Like EA give two shits about the price of Thiago. They just want you opening packs.

EA do give two shits abut the price of 87s... because they want you opening packs!

Think of it this way. We need an incentive to spend real life money on a slot machine.

It can't all be about winning the jackpot - in this case packing Messi. Slot machines need to pay out small winnings here and there to keep you paying back in. 
Firstly to trick you into not being able to keep track of 'small winnings adding up' versus 'amount you've spent'. Secondly to give you a small 'reminder' dopamine hit that's a taster of the one you get when you pack Messi.

Now think on how hard it is to pack an 87. 

It rarely happens. So when it does happen, they want you to get excited about it... excited enough to chase that dragon.

 

-Yeah, fascinating. What's all that got to do with buying 87s now?

Black Friday is coming. Prices on Black Friday drop. 

 

-Why?

Lots more people buy the game in the sales, lots more people buy Fifa points in the Sales, so there's waaaaay more packs than usual being opened. Which means there's more supply. Which means Prices go down. Like, a lot. Like, as much as 50%.

 

-And?

And EA don't want 87s, or 86s, or 89s to drop more than they are currently, because then packing them won't be worth it. If an 87 costs 8k, it's doesn't give the punter that same dopamine hit when they pack one.

They can't stop prices from falling - supply and demand is the base of all economics. BUT... they can inflate the price of them before Black Friday so that the crash brings them to where they are now.

 

-Riiiiiiight.... so you're saying Big SBCs are coming this week or next that require 86s or 87s to remove the supply from the Market and push prices up?
BINGO.

 

-Nice one. You fucking nerd.

I might be wrong of course.

 

-...You might be wrong? I've already bought four thousand Marco Verrattis.

I was thinking of picking up one of each of the lower cost, higher rated cards.

You can find the 87s here:

https://www.futbin.com/players?page=1&player_rating=87-87&sort=ps_price&order=asc

Just change the 87-87 in the url to whatever number you like. Or use the drop down box on the page to determine the rating.

 

-Oh yeah. That would have been a better idea. 

I'll pray for a Ligue 1 SBC for you.

Epic post.

 

I'm still finding joy flipping consumables, it's pretty trivial finding the price of a chemistry style at the weekend, then picking them up in the week for a whole lot less. You can store them in the club as well, which leaves your transfer list and targets pile free to keep flipping cheapy Premier League players.

[sbrandon111]

My rivals reward is either 17,500 coins, a mega pack or 2 x untradable mega packs. Any recommendations?

[Keiths_Dad]

15 minutes ago, sbrandon111 said:

My rivals reward is either 17,500 coins, a mega pack or 2 x untradable mega packs. Any recommendations?

Coins is the sensible choice. An argument could be made for the untradeable packs depending on how many first owned players you have in the top leagues, however. If you haven't got enough to get through the icon objectives, I'd be inclined to take those.

[Swallow]

@sbrandon111 Do you want to do any of the first owner icon swaps objectives? That's the only real reason to go untradeadable.

 

I don't want to jinx it but I've had some pretty good luck from gold upgrades tonight, pulling Özil, Ziyech and Lloris.

[Steely]

I'm a firm advocate for Packs, it's why we play the game, the thrill of the pack. 

 

But given your pauper status, and the fact I don't think you are doing first owned objectives. It's probably best to just take the cash.

 

Take packs in a few weeks, once you have a solid competitive team. 17k goes a long way at the minute! 

[sbrandon111]

Yeah I think the coins would be sensible at the minute, could cherry pick players to improve my team that way. Just finally got Vardy from the SBC so can try and build up some coin. I'm dying to get doing some of the objectives but they're still a few weeks away I think. 

[Pants McSkill]

Coins were the right choice. Do you now have a spare 32,250?

 

Because you could buy this:

 

 

 

I challenge anyone to do better for less.

 

[gooner4life]

So I made stonks on rttf militao and lloris.

 

if I sell Ronaldo and a lot of dead wood I can buy this front three. 
 

what’s my best midfield options? I want full chem really, my OCD goes mad if I’ve got a player off chem.

[Pants McSkill]

What's your ingame formation? And how much roughly will you have?

[gooner4life]

I'd have 3.4mil for Neymar, Mbappe and RTTF Dembele.

 

I could then probably raise about half a mil or a mil depending on midfield options, straight off I could sell Varane who's actually in my squad instead of Lenglet, the only midfielder who I view as essential is Allan at this point.

 

I play 442, 4222 or 41212 in game.

[Pants McSkill]

Allan's your ball winner so you need a playmaker and someone to fill the remaining winger or striker role.

OTW De jong in for Pogba for playmaker.
CAM 86 John Barnes in for Matuidi for winger.

 

760k for the pair, minus 320k back for Pogba.

[Pants McSkill]

Or you play one of Neymar or Mbappe on the wing and get Ian Wright as striker.

[Steely]

What the hell happened to the RTF cards? Why did they all go through the roof last night?

[gooner4life]

13 minutes ago, Steely said:

What the hell happened to the RTF cards? Why did they all go through the roof last night?

Out of packs, people probably hedged their bets on both squads being in packs for a few days like with the scream team but it didn’t happen.

[Steely]

Ah, I had no idea the promo was finished! Thought it was still rumbling on till Friday. 

 

Still, it was a big spike! 

[Timmo]

9 hours ago, gooner4life said:

So I made stonks on rttf militao and lloris.

 

if I sell Ronaldo and a lot of dead wood I can buy this front three. 
 

what’s my best midfield options? I want full chem really, my OCD goes mad if I’ve got a player off chem.

 

Unless you actually use the 5* skills, I would get Mane's 89 over Mbappe and build from there. He's already great and will be insane. I love his 88 so much

[Pants McSkill]

36 minutes ago, Steely said:

Ah, I had no idea the promo was finished! Thought it was still rumbling on till Friday. 

 

Still, it was a big spike! 

 

Massive! And there I was thinking Lloris at 150k was too much.

 

Every single card is ridiculously overpriced. Which makes me well tempted to cash in on my Allan... But I love him so very, very much...

[Keiths_Dad]

I had my eye on RTTF Militao as my next purchase, but having watched him slowly climb to 500k and then suddenly jump north of 600k... nah, fuck that. He's now more expensive than van Dijk, mid Cannavaro and mid Campbell, all of whom I reckon would be better options.

 

So I'm going to make my next big purchase up front. Currently, I'm playing the team below, which switches to 4321 in game, with Firmino dropping into the midfield. Wijnaldum is out as soon as I get Keane from the icon swaps, so my thinking is I can upgrade to OTW Griezmann, or Scream Firmino - or, drop Firmino altogether, bring Griezmann into centre mid, and buy an icon up top.

 

Has anyone tried some icon strikers that they'd recommend?

[Timmo]

What's your budget?

[Jerec]

See the pitch notes?

 

Little fix on player selecting, although it seems to be when tackling and then switching.

 

Also when taking a Pen, your head won't move after you press Shoot but you can still move the cursor.

 

And some other bits.

[Steely]

No mention of AI, hopefully they have overlooked the Squad Battle filth.

 

That method got me 3 glorious 1 nill wins yesterday. 

 

What's the crack with headers, I don't want them to be OP again but fuck me, they are near totally useless at the minute.

[Keiths_Dad]

1 hour ago, Timmo said:

What's your budget?

I reckon I can get to 600k by next weekend easily enough, but I'm happy to downgrade De Jong to his base version as there isn't much between them.

 

Let's say 800k.

[Steely]

If you can please try Hugo Sanchez for me and report back before I make my swaps decision. 

 

I miss Icon loan cards.