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No but it would be better if you had, IMO. I think the relationships are more enjoyable if you know the back story and you get to know about Nate's personality, traits and character flaws which are relevant. There's nothing mind blowing but I quite enjoyed following the story across four games.

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Oh yes. Been looking forward to this one.

 

  • Survival Co-op
  • New Game mode - King of the Hill
  • 2 maps, Prison and Train Wreck (Uncharted 2)
  • Classic Uncharted music returns in menus and gameplay. (hype)
  • New skins and customization items.
  • New 'flashback' (M4, Para 9, Deagle, Pak 80) weapons!
  • Color customization! 25 color combos for every skin in the game. (hype)
  • 5 Survival difficulties. Easy Moderate Hard Crushing and Hardcore.

 

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Up to Chapter 18 of this now after stalling at 16 for quite some time (for some reason or another, think I just got distracted). 

 

God it's just so long winded and dull. There are some wonderful moments and sections in there, but even after just legging it through massive gun battles because it's just not that good really it's outstaying its welcome.

 

I'd probably welcome an entire game mod that just removes all enemies and lets me explore and enjoy the environments without the hugely artificial stop start stop start pacing that pervades throughout. Those quiet moments, often filled with little character pieces, have been lovely. But framed against the destruction of an entire private army they lose their edge somewhat.

 

Pushing through now though - reckon I've got 2-3 hours left. Might as well it out. 

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Started this a few days ago. And although it look fantastic, it's... a bit of a same-ish sluggish game? I'm not phantastically fond of these types of games, but it's not completely wrong to put it down after, say, chapter 8?

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Uncharted 4 seems to be one of the worst cases of hype affecting early impressions and reviews. It got so many 9s and 10s that it became a must have game for PS4 owners. But it does seem that many people who played it after the hype window just think it's a bit average.

 

Or maybe it's just those people playing now that don't really care about the story...But then, did the story really make this a 9/10?

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10 minutes ago, Hylian said:

Uncharted 4 seems to be one of the worst cases of hype affecting early impressions and reviews. It got so many 9s and 10s that it became a must have game for PS4 owners. But it does seem that many people who played it after the hype window just think it's a bit average.

 

Or maybe it's just those people playing now that don't really care about the story...But then, did the story really make this a 9/10?

 

I really enjoyed both the gunplay and the story. I still play the online Survival mode today, and the characters, script and voice work are among the best in the industry. I know a lot of people who feel the same, but most of them can't be bothered to pop up every time someone on rllmuk describes it as 'trash'. I expect our taste in films to be as divergent as our taste in games, so there's nothing much to say really beyond the obvious. Each to their own.

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19 minutes ago, Hylian said:

Uncharted 4 seems to be one of the worst cases of hype affecting early impressions and reviews. It got so many 9s and 10s that it became a must have game for PS4 owners. But it does seem that many people who played it after the hype window just think it's a bit average.

 

Or maybe it's just those people playing now that don't really care about the story...But then, did the story really make this a 9/10?

 

It's not just the story and presentation for me. I really like the more expansive level design, the gameplay variety and the wonderfully dynamic combat encounters. I do have some issues with it though, which I've detailed in my GotY post. Not sure if it's a 9 out of 10, probably not for me, but it's a good game nonetheless.

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There are about 20 or 30 times when you're playing that bridges or rocks collapse underneath you, in a cheap attempt to shock. It's tiresome. You can actually tell when they're about to happen purely because it will not have happened within the last quarter of an hour and you're about to step on a bridge. The climbing sections are repetitive, one dimensional and outstay their welcome after 20 minutes. 

 

Sure the game has decent voice acting and it looks gorgeous but it's just not enough to make up for the barely interactive or scripted sections. 

 

Just wait till you get to this one bit where you have to wander around a mansion looking at stuff. It's genuinely up there with the worst 'gameplay' experiences I've ever had. I only pushed through because I got the game as a birthday present.

 

Anyway, horses for courses. I guess plenty of people dislike Doom which was my favourite game of the last year and the absolute antithesis of this. 

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Debaser, If one applied the same level of exaggeration to Doom as you have to UC4 there I'd characterise it as the most repetitive, basic shooter I played last year. I'm not sure I'd want to, but if you're going to maintain that there's a collapsing bridge every fifteen minutes in Uncharted 4 then sure, why not? Let's plumb the depths of hyperbole.

 

I know a lot of people don't like the pacing of UC4 and dislike the mansion section intensely - I know because some have referred to it several times - but I genuinely enjoyed that, and my thoughts about the pacing couldn't be more opposed: I thought it had the best of any Uncharted and, with some caveats (the combat sections came too thick and fast later on), some of the best pacing I've seen in a game full stop. But as I've mentioned before, I've become increasingly aware that the issue of pacing is something on which I diverge more and more from the mainstream when it comes to films, and this is, after all, partly a film, or at least a video drama. And some of my favourite films would doubtless be completely uninteresting to a lot of people, far too slow and 'uneventful' to keep their attention, whereas a lot of films that get a substantial amount of praise here just seem mediocre and by-the-numbers to me, albeit that they flit from one incoherent piece of action, glib one-liner or dramatically unearned 'character' moment with the pace of a deranged tsetse fly.

 

And although I liked many aspects of it, in the ultimate heresy I actually prefer the first Doom (one of my favourite shooters) to the reboot. I think the Doom reboot is one of the most overhyped forum darlings going, and way far from perfect. If I played the PC version I'm fairly sure that opinion would change - because my lack of love is mainly about the controls - but the console version? It's good, but flawed, unlike the almost perfectly-designed flat-plane kb/m original. And the online in Uncharted is actually great fun, and feels great to play competitively or in co-op, which is something, right? Something it appears hardly anyone has ever bothered with, sadly.

 

Ultimately, a lot of people power through the combat on easy or normal, which is a shame because a lot of the gameplay's good points - and some of the bad - come through more strongly when you're having a greater struggle. (I say 'bad' because some of the frustrations/limitations of some sections become only too readily apparent at this level; but at the same time some of the creativity afforded by the scenarios and environments at their best also only come into play.) And I think the 'pacing issues' some have, and maybe what they see as repetitiveness, might be brought out by getting through the game really quickly, which is another factor of how easy it is to get through your average encounter on your chosen difficulty. So there's that, and one of the criticisms I'd level at the game is a somewhat uneven difficulty curve, and that none of the difficulty options feels entirely right all the way through. I do think ND have a problem with that aspect in all the Uncharteds.

 

UC4 still remains one of my favourite games of the year though, and I think it's oddly underrated here (the last Tomb Raider, which appears quite well-liked, is dismal by comparison in two areas - the 'dramatic' element (the story, script and acting are atrocious throughout), and much of the combat - although its platforming is far better). So if you disagree with all of that, here's another opinion you can take with a pinch of salt in future: I hold Bungie to be the masters of pure console shooter controls, and everything else - absolutely every other game - pales like a dying star in terms of controlling yer shooter mans compared to their best offering; and the best they've ever made in that respect is, oh yes, Destiny. A game whose story (discounting some of the grimoire, most notably the Books of Sorrow) is utter bilge, and whose voice acting is largely dire. So it's not as if I'm not a shooter-above-story guy, and I know full well UC4 isn't within a million miles of the very best shooters out there; I just think that in the context of the game type the gunplay is way better than a lot of people seem to give it credit for. And the storytelling is absolutely masterful. That's really not a bad combo, and very far from 'trash'.

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I finished the game through normal, hard then crushing. I couldn't stop playing it and it's absolutely one of the best games of last year. As Gorf King mentioned, then thread has sort of been hi-jacked into a trash talk group and I know that's how discussion of the game is going, so I just leave it. The one part of the game that I really thought needed to be left on the cutting room floor was the Mansion level popping up around chapter 14 or something. It kinda kills the flow. 

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Disqualifying Uncharted 4 as 'trash' is indeed mad hyperbole. While I can understand it's not to everybody's taste (most likely people who don't like UC4 didn't like the first three games either for the same reasons), it's the product of a team at the peak of its ability. Brimming with detail, visually stunning, every part of the world meticulously crafted. I did have some issues with it. I didn't like Samuel much as a character, I thought the all grown-up Elena-Nate relationship bumps felt out of place in a summer blockbuster game (reaching the summit of a mountain and while the camera pans over a glorious landscape having a discussion about rebuilding trust in their relationship? Ehm...) and some bits were drawn out a bit, the mansion section indeed broke up the pace in an unwelcome way. But by Jesus, for every niggle there were at least a dozen stunning vistas, a range of great gunfights, new exotic locales. It even has lemurs in it for fuck sake. Thrash? Really? I will most definitely play through it again soon.

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14 hours ago, p b said:

Started this a few days ago. And although it look fantastic, it's... a bit of a same-ish sluggish game? I'm not phantastically fond of these types of games, but it's not completely wrong to put it down after, say, chapter 8?

 

That's around the point I gave up. I decided I had better things to spend my time on.

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Nespresso

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Currently playing through this and am up to chapter 13. While it does feel very familiar and, in some instances, repetitive it truly looks out of this world. Like, it genuinely seems like the game came from the future as it looks as if it's a whole console generation ahead of its counterparts. The level of detail put into every little tiny thing is just astonishing and it boggles my mind that they would go through such extreme lengths to get even the smallest of detail right. 

 

The same applies for the character interactions, animation, acting, and writing actually. Naughty Dog have proven themselves to be unrivalled in that regard, even when compared to big blockbuster films. I mean, despite the art direction and aim for realistic visuals, the Uncharted games have always been somewhat of a cartoony affair but this time around every character comes across as genuinely lifelike and wholly believable, right down the the smallest of mannerisms during gameplay and cutscenes. The back and forth between Elena and Drake is the perfect example of this. Even if you would have never played one of these before you'd know right from the start how these two relate to each other. The chemistry seeps through the TV basically. So I'm very much enjoying the moments where the narrative is put front and centre. 

 

That being said the combat is just okay and as far as actual climbing mechanics go it's mainly just a matter of pushing forward. So while I couldn't care less about the actiony parts the Walking Sim™ bits are still quite special though. Case in point: I'm on some island in the middle of nowhere now and while the exploration is limited I wouldn't have minded if the entire game focused more on the Rivening (Mysting?) aspects of it all and less on the obligatory boring cover-shooter variety. My main issues are that the enemies are the definition of bullet sponges, recoil is all over the place, and it's more a case of trial-and-error instead of providing you with a fun combat flow and a sense of immediacy like Doom or perhaps even Gears. I enjoy the parts where you're able to stealth your way through an area but even those are hampered by incredibly poor AI where they will be 1 meter away from you and still don't detect you. 

 

All in all though it's been a lot of fun and am glad I have finally gotten my hands on this. If you were boil it down to its most basic mechanics then I feel it's nothing special but taken on a whole it's quite an amazing experience (/kylebosmanvoice).

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5 minutes ago, Doctor Shark said:

This game was superb. The truck chase, as in the gameplay trailer from yonks ago, was such a thrill to actually play through. Such a spectacle. It is comfortably better than 3 and 1, but still not as "special" to me as 2. 

I was playing through that yesterday and all the while I simply couldn't believe my eyes. I still have no idea how they ever succeeded into making most of that playable and functioning even. It must've been a nightmare to develop that sequence, my god!

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