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Why was it Jimmy “convincing” Lalo to send Kim instead of himself that tipped Gus off? Was it just because he realised that Lalo wouldn’t leave any detail of his real plan to chance, and as such deduced that sending someone to his front door was simply a distraction? Did it really matter to Lalo’s plan who rolled up to Gus’ house?

 

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p1nseeker

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5 minutes ago, Boozy The Clown said:

Just rewatched Ep7 then the new episode.

 

There were parts during that where I couldn't move and possibly forgot how to breathe.  "Edge of your seat" doesn't come close to describing it.

 

Absolutely. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Amazing the tension they create between characters that you ultimately know the futures of to an extent. 

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2 hours ago, Jamie John said:

 

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The bit at the beginning, where Jimmy told Lalo to get Kim to carry out the hit instead of him, I actually gasped, ha! At the time I was thinking, "This is it, this is the point where she leaves him," but then later she tells Gus that Jimmy only said that to Lalo to get her out of the room. I can't say I'm too sure on that one, though, and the way she gives him the silent treatment at the end of the episode was pretty telling.

 

 

It just seemed to me that

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Sending Kim meant she could leave and not come back, resigning Saul to suffer at Lalo's hands, rather than Kim. 

 

And Gus picked up on it because he knew that Lalo could have easily sent a killer, rather than a distraction.

 

Her being quiet at the end I took to be her being entirely fucked off that her attachment to Jimmy had brought her a hair's breadth away from shooting someone she knew nothing about. What Jimmy had said about him being bad for her was demonstrably true.

 

I've actually caught up on the entire show in the last few weeks. It's absolutely great, but I have to agree that

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the tension is curtailed a lot. Lalo wasn't killing Gus, and as such that whole set piece didn't have me on the edge of my seat. 

 

Still great to watch those two guys play off each other though.

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Being picky!

 

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In BB, Saul asks Walt and Jesse if Lalo sent them when they have him at gunpoint. But in this week's episode Mike has just reassured Jimmy and Kim that Lalo "won't be coming back", with the heavy implication that he's definitely dead this time.

 

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I had a problem with that line for the opposite reason. They were going out of their way to not write anything definitive, a contrivance that feels way too on the nose.

 

People had their issues with the writing in Obi-Wan Kenobi and this was no different than addressing Anakin as “Darth” because it wasn’t designated as a title in 77.

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I could witness Lalo get his head cut off and still think he could turn up a week later, head stapled back on his body, big smile, "let's talk". 

 

Now it's at this late stage in the series that I'm reassured that this is BCS, from the people who brought you Breaking Bad. Because, what I've always loved about these shows is that the best characters have equal weighting to the title leads, often more so.  If I had to put the BCS characters in order of "who is best", Saul himself would be fairly low down.  For a long time BCS could have been called "The Mike Show", and Lalo, Nacho, Kim are all brilliant, strong and we'll acted characters. 

 

So now... Well, we have five episodes to go and...

 

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Everyone is all dead.  Nacho, Lalo, Howard....  So let's look at the plotlines we have been following so far....

 

Sandpiper crossing lawsuit - they accepted the offer and that's being paid out.  Lalo is living in the drains, looking to kill Gus.  Lalo should be dead because Nacho opened the gates for the assassination team.  Kim and Jimmy messing with Howard...  Jimmy at a dead end in his career bacause Chuck won't let him join HHM.  Cliff Maine thinks Howard is on drugs.  Where am I going with all this?  This is why, at this stage, you NEED that reassurance that you're watching a fantastic show written by the best in the business.  Because after watching last night's episode, all the plot lines have closed.  Everyone's dead.  Right now, everything you've been watching is resolved. Just Mike, Kim and Saul.  We know Mike survives.  So you basically have 5 hours of TV left and it's all Kim and Saul.  Kind of an anti climax by any other TV standards.  But this is Better Call Saul.  We're in good hands. Anything can happen.

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4 minutes ago, Chadruharazzeb said:

One question :

 

How did they get the digger down there? 

 

I was wondering that too, sort of drifted off thinking about a documentary I saw on making skyscrapers and how they get cranes on top them as they build them.

 

Engineering is clever stuff, that or Mike had a cunning plan and took it down there bit by bit in the workers lunchboxes.

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1 hour ago, dumpster said:

But this is Better Call Saul.  We're in good hands. Anything can happen.

 

There is the "future Saul" element in there too that we've seen black & white scenes from each season, which I presume might expand in some way.

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11 minutes ago, FishyFish said:

 

There is the "future Saul" element in there too that we've seen black & white scenes from each season, which I presume might expand in some way.

 

1 hour ago, p1nseeker said:

You're forgetting Gene 😉

 

:blah:

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1 hour ago, FishyFish said:

 

There is the "future Saul" element in there too that we've seen black & white scenes from each season, which I presume might expand in some way.

 

plus there's a whole week of Lyle running the chicken shop to cover

 

I know another guy with the same pseudonym as Jimmy who is a superior human being, possibly because he was born still inside his amniotic sack. Once day I'll tell you the story of the Better Saul's Caul.

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2 hours ago, dumpster said:

 

 

So now... Well, we have five episodes to go and...

 

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Everyone is all dead.  Nacho, Lalo, Howard....  So let's look at the plotlines we have been following so far....

 

 

 
Quite a lot of stuff left tho, as we close in on the BB timeline...

 

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Tuco must be out of prison soon and he's gonna be pissed, the setting up of the lab, maybe Gale back for a bit, what happens to Kim? Walt and Jesse back, what happening in current day, Saul was already recognised once in the Mall. I am kinda hoping for a happy ending.

 

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2 hours ago, Girth Certificate said:

I figured those guys might actually get 

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returned to their families, or maybe Gus has a graveyard for his hired goons somewhere.

 

 

Their bodies despawned as soon as Gus left the area.

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6 minutes ago, Gotters said:

Not making any specific guesses about how this will end, but at this point I've got very high expectations it won't be rubbish, and by that I mean it'll be satisfactory if not upbeat.

 

Very difficult to guess any flash forward ending until we know the fate of Kim before BB starts ending.  

 

Fair play - its a prequel with most of the issues/plot-lines now resolved and the fate of nearly all the remaining characters known as they take place in BB, but none of us has the remotest clue how its going to end in potentially two different timelines and if we are getting 5 more episodes of current timeline and just 10 minutes of post BB or a 2/3 episode split or some during BB stuff or what.

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There seems to be some pretty big spoilers that I got shown on TikTok, but I'm not sure if they are true or not. I've not seen the most recent episode but this potentially relates to something later than that.

 

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Relates to character appearance

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Bryan Cranston on a talk show going over his appearance in BCS. Seems odd unless it already leaked (or fake)

 

 

 

 

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That's been quite well publicised.

 

I know it won't happen, but I'd love if

 

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it was just Walt and Jessie seen in the background of some scene, down a street or something, with no audible dialogue or anything.

 

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13 minutes ago, JohnC said:

That's been quite well publicised.

 

I know it won't happen, but I'd love if

 

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it was just Walt and Jessie seen in the background of some scene, down a street or something, with no audible dialogue or anything.

 

 

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He calls it a cameo

 

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3 scenes between them, only one together

 

Read an interview and he talks about all the secrecy of flying in privately so nobody knows...and then he's talking about it before it airs.

 

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Yeah twitter spoiled this episode for me. By a cast member no less! On full lockdown now. Not even Reddit discussion threads I think. Just here.

 

And what an incredible episode. The fact that this is four or five episodes from the end blows my mind. 
 

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