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Garibaldi

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Did Westworld just borrow a plot device from Kingsman? :lol:

 

So far, so mediocre for me. Oh sure, they keep trying to hang some allegory and portentous lines on it but the skeleton of this thing is very by the numbers now. It’s like someone handed a pretty generic sci-fi series to a pretentious, but not unskilled author and said ‘artsy this up will you?’ 
 

‘When do you need it ready by? Six months, like the first one?’ 
 

‘Actually, a week….no, four days should do it. Chop chop!’ 

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12 hours ago, Popo said:

I’m glad they’re still holding back on answering some questions about Christina, and Hale’s transcendence program. 
 

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Based on what Teddy said at the end of the episode - is she Hehoboam? 
 

Also confused about what Hale meant when she said to Maeve that the “others” from the Sublime will want to join her in her new world. I thought the hosts who had transcended had gone to the Sublime. 

 

 

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Not sure, it's weird that she can go from interacting with suicide guy, her sassy black roommate and her boss to suddenly nobody can see her. 

 

Hale can't access the Sublime. I assume the transcended hosts were going to their own version of it that Hale had made but now I'm not sure. What's the deal with the big tall robots? I thought they were just fancy pedestals to hold their transcended brains but one was moving about. 

 

 

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Well, it was better than season three, I'll give it that.  It seems like they made up the plot on the fly though.  I wonder if the show runners have a full ending mapped out somewhere?  I can't imagine they could end it with any semblance of the genius that was season one (which I think is some of the best TV I've ever seen).

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I thought this season was pretty poor, much worse than Season 3 especially as it progressed. I feel like it's a bit like Lost at this point, where the creators are more concerned about the structure of the show and it's revels/timeline tricks than in telling a good story. Like the whole Caleb revel just seemed so pointless. Wouldn't it have been way more interesting showing how Charlotte slowly took over the world (kind of like the Futureworld movie) and had some of the characters trying to stop her, than in having that whole "she did it with flies, now let's skip forward 25 years". I do find it hard to believe that they had the whole story line mapped out since before the show started. I know they said they did, but that's what the Wachowski's said after The Matrix, and the know how those sequels turned out.

 

 

Seems like they left it open ended as to whether there will be another season, which given all the shows HBO has been cancelling might not have been the worse idea. Don't get me wrong, it's still one of the best shows of recent years but after Season 3, which I really enjoyed, I was expecting more. 

 

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13 hours ago, Moz said:

This is some real “Kojima in a K-Hole” shite lads 


While I’m certainly no fan of the way the series has progressed, let’s not go nuts here. It’s nowhere near the levels of Kojima’s garbled and self indulgent world building. 

 

That said, yeah…. 
 

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I’m not even sure to feel about it anymore. It’s obviously trying to raise some fundamental questions with Dolores recreating humanity - is that truly sentience? And if it is, could a non-human being ever really capture humanity, or would they end up tainting (improving?) it with aspects of themselves, even if unwittingly? 
 

Thing is, I don’t really care anymore. The first season already asked the important questions, but did so in a more subtle manner, rather than bashing you over the head and saying ‘is it? Is it?’ which the last three seasons have been doing.
 

I’m sure the writers will frame going back to the park (albeit a virtual version) as some sort of cyclic metaphor, but to me it just feels like they’re totally out of ideas. What are they even trying to tell us anymore? This story has been told for a good while now.  

 

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On 08/08/2022 at 23:43, Popo said:

I’m glad they’re still holding back on answering some questions about Christina, and Hale’s transcendence program. 
 

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Based on what Teddy said at the end of the episode - is she Hehoboam? 
 

Also confused about what Hale meant when she said to Maeve that the “others” from the Sublime will want to join her in her new world. I thought the hosts who had transcended had gone to the Sublime. 

 

 

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Christina is a copy of Dolores who seems to have been repurposed by the Hale variant of Dolores as the AI which controls New York and keeps all the humans under control with the stories which control their lives and keeps them in the Matrix. Her brain is literally kept under the floor of the control tower as it turns out.

 

Hale wishes for all the hosts to eventually choose to leave their earthly bodies and get moved to her host paradise that she has designed but it turns out most of them aren't interested and would rather stay amongst the humans.

 

Clearly the first series of this was the best one, but all the subsequent ones have had some interesting stuff and it must be the most gorgeously filmed TV series ever. You really can't beat old school film for getting lush visuals.

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