Liverpool Football Club Thread

[glb]

3 minutes ago, Adrock said:

I don't understand the complaints about lack of creativity thanks to Henderson and Fabinho playing at the the back. The last couple of years those two were part of the workmanlike midfield regularly bemoaned for their lack of creativity.

They provide a stable base upon which to build. With Henderson and Fabinho in midfield Robertson and TAA both can push higher up more frequently. The team’s press can start further forward and potentially win back possession in much more dangerous positions. There is visibly more of a willingness to take risk with them in midfield, probably because knowing that after Fab and Henderson, there’s also another layer of security in the form of Van Dijk alongside Gomez/Matip.

 

Playing two first choice midfielders out of position exaggerates the loss of our first choice CBs, unbalancing the side.

[Oh Danny Boy]

7 minutes ago, Adrock said:

I don't understand the complaints about lack of creativity thanks to Henderson and Fabinho playing at the the back. The last couple of years those two were part of the workmanlike midfield regularly bemoaned for their lack of creativity.

Mourinho speaking before the Spurs game about how losing your defence and how it affects how the whole team operates was spot on. VVD and Matip in defence with Fabinho protecting just allowed the team to play freely in attack, allowed the wing backs to push forward without worrying about losing possession. Even if you’re set up similarly mentally without that lot behind you start double guessing, playing safer to risk not losing the ball, playing with the thought in your head that you may have to chase back more. IMO we had the heart of the team ripped out this season, you’d have had to have been very opportunistic to not imagine it would be a real struggle in periods. 

[Adrock]

I appreciate all of the above and agree with it too. But the complaint was a lack a creativity, which is total bullshit.

 

My thoughts on today's game are City will win by a couple. They have shored their defence up since the beginning of the season and Liverpool simply don't look good enough.

[CheekyLee]

Stop worrying about top 4! Anyone who finishes above us wins it, and that looks like City at the moment but it has taken an incredible run from them to get there. Leicester don't have enough, Spurs have already Spursed it, and Man U won't get away with their luck forever. Even if they do, we're still 3rd.

 

Today is almost a free hit, which is unheard of at Anfield. We've got more than enough out there to score 5, even against them. As long as we do our thing, we'll come good at some point, so why not today?

[glb]

2 minutes ago, Adrock said:

I appreciate all of the above and agree with it too. But the complaint was a lack a creativity, which is total bullshit.

The creativity isn’t through them, their positioning alters the effectiveness of the rest of the team’s creativity. We’re almost mirroring what happened to City last season when they had to shift players around and it affected their overall output.

 

Think when Kabak starts, possibly alongside another CB with Fabinho and Henderson in midfield again, we’ll see Thiago/Gini/Jones further forward, as well as TAA and Robertson going closer to the opposition byline rather than crossing from in line with the edge of their penalty area.

[Adrock]

So we're talking about the efficacy of the press rather than actual creativity?

[glb]

4 minutes ago, Adrock said:

So we're talking about the efficacy of the press rather than actual creativity?

The press is a factor, and so is the change of positioning and/or effectiveness of the side’s more creative players.

[bradigor]

Looks like the plan today is to draw City forward and then try and get a moment to swing it the other way.

[glb]

Thiago isn’t going to last the full game at this rate. Looks like he’s had one too many caffeine pills.

[gospvg]

Why do we always go forward and then can’t run pass the last player to get a cross in we end up going all the way back to Allison. So frustrating.

[gospvg]

Mane should’ve scored that, missed chance.

[bradigor]

3 minutes ago, gospvg said:

Why do we always go forward and then can’t run pass the last player to get a cross in we end up going all the way back to Allison. So frustrating.

 

It looks very deliberate today. It's part of a plan. Whether it works out not remains to be seen.

[Adrock]

I think the plan is to not over commit in the attack.

[p b]

Excellent

 

[p b]

Jones is doing well.

[p b]

Ha!

 

[Keiths_Dad]

Fucking LOL. Wasn't a penalty anyway, chucked himself down.

[Adrock]

Wow, shanked it. Wasn't a penalty in my opinion anyway.

[glb]

 

What a terrible penalty.

[bradigor]

Just now, glb said:

 

What a terrible penalty.

 

Both the awarding and taking of.

[Adrock]

Trent Alexander Arnold has been the best Liverpool player today, dealing with Sterling and still getting forward to create the best chances so far. He struggled earlier in the season coming back from injury but he is back to his best.

[bradigor]

He is hitting better looking crosses from deeper too. 

 

We'll come out very aggressive in the second half. 

[CheekyLee]

Another half where we've just not worked the goalie enough. Clearly the better team, but not looking like scoring. 

[glb]

Expectedly cagey. In that context Mane’s header was a glorious chance. Otherwise look fairly comfortable.

 

Kabak on for Thiago and Henderson shifted into midfield for the last twenty?

[CheekyLee]

8 minutes ago, glb said:

Kabak on for Thiago and Henderson shifted into midfield for the last twenty?

Not sure I'd wait that long. Klopp will, but we get on the front foot a little more and this one is for the taking.

[bradigor]

Urgh 

[glb]

Ah. Oh well.

[Stig]

Can we just have defenders in defence now please 

[bradigor]

No response at all so far

[bradigor]

Just show some fight.