Liverpool Football Club Thread

[bradigor]

Shocking again

[gospvg]

Ok so forget the league then let’s go for the champions league instead.

[Hamus]

Remarkable.

Clearly not a penalty, a dive and a fall after the ball had gone.

Teams like Burnley are not about football. They are anti football busy bodies.

Why bother to play when another team don't want to.

[footle]

Just now, gospvg said:

Ok so forget the league then let’s go for the champions league instead.

You mean getting a place in it next season?

[Stig]

What the actual fuck has happened to this team. About to lose our hoke record to fucking Burnley.

 

We have Spurs, City, Everton and Leicester coming up. Right now I can't see us winning any of them. 

[Stig]

1 minute ago, Hamus said:

Remarkable.

Clearly not a penalty, a dive and a fall after the ball had gone.

Teams like Burnley are not about football. They are anti football busy bodies.

Why bother to play when another team don't want to.

 

Give in, Alisson wipes him out.

[ryodi]

3 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

What the actual fuck has happened to this team. About to lose our hoke record to fucking Burnley.

 

Klopp's Dortmund side ran out of steam after winning two league titles. One near miss and a win and the same appears to be happening here although the current injury crisis means that isn't really a fair comparison. 

[bradigor]

Well that was shite 

[glb]

 

[Gabe]

Abysmal, but credit to Burnley. Gutted about the home record more than anything.

[Chewylegs]

12 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

 

Give in, Alisson wipes him out.

Na, he gets a bit of a hand on him and he goes down very easily, as Barnes does all the time.  Such a horrible player.

[Oh Danny Boy]

Were never going to score again! 

[Gabe]

8 minutes ago, Pockets said:

Klopp’s likeability gives him a lot of leeway, along with all he’s achieved, but saying shit like people are impatient when the team is struggling like this is a bit annoying. They were CL winners in 2019, PL winners last year, to suggest we still need to be patient when the team were literally world-beaters is a bit frustrating. There’s a lack of quality in depth and there has been for a long time. Klopp’s desire to keep a tight unit is sort of one I agree with, but he needs to add more decent players who can cover. Simple as that. 

I think the truth is that he doesn't know how to fix it at the moment. We don't have adequate quality to come in and change things so they need to try and play into some form. The next few games could be very humbling.

 

I honestly can't recall a time when we looked so poor up front and unable to get a win - and I remember that horrible spell of no wins between November and January in the 02/03 season, because at least we were scoring then but our defence was awful.

 

Sigh.

[Hamus]

27 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

 

Give in, Alisson wipes him out.

 

Wipes out someone who's falling over and looking for it.

His 'shot' is already skyward. 

When a forward shoots, misses, and is then taken out by a defender it is never a penalty. 

Here it seems different.

 

Firmino should be dropped for a bit, and Klopp has to shake things up.

[Chewylegs]

That actually happened to Mane tonight too

[Stig]

31 minutes ago, Chewylegs said:

Na, he gets a bit of a hand on him and he goes down very easily, as Barnes does all the time.  Such a horrible player.

 

15 minutes ago, Hamus said:

 

Wipes out someone who's falling over and looking for it.

His 'shot' is already skyward. 

When a forward shoots, misses, and is then taken out by a defender it is never a penalty. 

Here it seems different.

 

Firmino should be dropped for a bit, and Klopp has to shake things up.

 

When a keep slides in like that he's giving the opposition the chance to go down. Its a penalty and its Alissons fault.

[glb]

Next goal is either going to be a ridiculous shot from 30 yards, or an own goal. The side looks so devoid of ideas around the opposition penalty area, that pretty much every side they face is going to be content to sit deep and nick something.

 

The title has gone. Not that the side won’t improve, but they have shown no sign of being capable of the kind of long winning run needed to get back on top of the pile.

[Chewylegs]

5 minutes ago, Pockets said:

There’s very little competition for places, especially with the injuries. Combine that with having won some trophies recently and got the league monkey off the back and it’s maybe understandable that the players who’ve done all that might not be pushing 100% in the midst of a pandemic and empty stadiums. Some fresh blood to challenge would help, I think that was evident when Jota was playing. Also, I do accept Henderson has improved from the days when I slagged him off, but I think his captaincy is helped by Van Dijk, he’s perhaps not as effective alone out there, try as he might. 

I know it's your opinion but that's a load of trash.

 

How can you say there is little competition for places especially with injuries? So many players are injured or have been injured it's unreal.  Competition wise, take out all the injuries and every spot apart from Right Back and Centre Forward has good competition.  We are depleted by injuries and that's why the team now look sparse. It would be and is the same for other teams.

 

Don't start on Henderson again, he wasn't even on the pitch.  Our midfield tonight was Gini, Thiago and Ox. That's nothing like pit usual midfield.  Jota was a revelation when he came in, challenging the front 3 for a spot.

 

So na, not having that, our squad is much better than it has been for a long time but we are going through a real bad patch.

[Chewylegs]

3 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

 

 

When a keep slides in like that he's giving the opposition the chance to go down. Its a penalty and its Alissons fault.

You are right it gives the opposition a chance to go down. I think, if he hadn't given it, it wouldn't have been oveturned either.

[Shimmyhill]

32 minutes ago, Oh Danny Boy said:

Were never going to score again! 

Nah your playing us next 

[bradigor]

1 minute ago, Shimmyhill said:

Nah your playing us next 

 

Jose licking his lips at this Liverpool. 

 

Watch us batter United 4-0 at Old Trafford in the FA Cup and then forget that the thing at the end of the pitch is at Tottenham. 

[CheekyLee]

It's a blip. 4 games without a goal isn't unheard of, but we have warped expectations due to the last 2 seasons. The low block is currently shackling us, and we already know that's precisely how Mourinho will play.

 

But City and Leicester won't. Everton will also at least try to play something positive. We'll get something, maybe scrape an undeserved win like the team's we've played against have, and suddenly the funk lifts. We start rolling again.

 

It probably was a penalty, but there is no way that any of our forwards would have been awarded it. Barnes should have been off the field. We are getting no joy from the officials, but we have to assume that will be the case from here on out and make them meaningless. Possession-wise, we've been clearly on top in all the recent matches. The goals will come back!

[glb]

2 hours ago, CheekyLee said:

It's a blip. 4 games without a goal isn't unheard of, but we have warped expectations due to the last 2 seasons. The low block is currently shackling us, and we already know that's precisely how Mourinho will play.

 

But City and Leicester won't. Everton will also at least try to play something positive. We'll get something, maybe scrape an undeserved win like the team's we've played against have, and suddenly the funk lifts. We start rolling again.

 

It probably was a penalty, but there is no way that any of our forwards would have been awarded it. Barnes should have been off the field. We are getting no joy from the officials, but we have to assume that will be the case from here on out and make them meaningless. Possession-wise, we've been clearly on top in all the recent matches. The goals will come back!

 

In the grand scheme of things this is a fairly normal blip for the club, certainly in the Premier League era. If anything, the past two seasons of rampant, confident, magnificent football have been the actual blip. I don't think it's over for this team by a long shot, but they aren't going to suddenly find a rich vein of form, just because the current season isn't going to be conducive to that. Klopp never fully rebuilt a side at Dortmund but he regularly lost his best players so they were constantly evolving anyway. Feel like this summer will see at least one high-profile departure plus several squad players moving on, followed by the addition of at least two or three players to add freshness.

 

In the short-term Jota will come back to add a bit of spark to the forward line, the defence will remain makeshift. The side will lose a few more games. The positives from recent dour performances is the possession is high, so the side is still controlling games, just lacking quality, or rather form, in the final third. Single goal defeats are not a huge concern either. Once the side starts scoring again, sides will have to open up a bit more to get anything. Feel like in the next few weeks a side will see Liverpool as a bit of a free hit, play more openly and wind up getting spanked. We'll celebrate then wonder why the hell we misfired so poorly for a short run of games.

 

On a tangent, feel much more detached from this season compared to last season. Games feel a bit empty without any crowd and the feeling of detachment has built up, probably compounded by our games being one of the few things to actually look forward to while existing during lockdown. Think the Man United game, normally a vibrant, loud, tense affair, was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. It all felt so tepid, and not just in the two sides' performances; there was no sense of peril or tension or, for want of a better word, passion. Just a humdrum fixture fulfilment, when really Anfield should have been rocking with the stakes being higher than they have between the clubs for almost a decade.

 

Probably won't get tickets for many games at Anfield next season, but do hope there's a decent sized attendance, if not a full-house at some point. Assuming I'll be vaccinated and tiers permit it, will head up anyway, just to feel that match day buzz again. Walking up the Walton Breck, seeing the Main Stand and The Kop emerging above the terraced houses. Fans squeezed into The Albert. Pins, scarves and pies for sale. The energy, the hope, the expectation. It will all feel so intoxicating after being gone for so long.

[Gabe]

3 minutes ago, glb said:

On a tangent, feel much more detached from this season compared to last season. Games feel a bit empty without any crowd and the feeling of detachment has built up, probably compounded by our games being one of the few things to actually look forward to while existing during lockdown. Think the Man United game, normally a vibrant, loud, tense affair, was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. It all felt so tepid, and not just in the two sides' performances; there was no sense of peril or tension or, for want of a better word, passion. Just a humdrum fixture fulfilment, when really Anfield should have been rocking with the stakes being higher than they have between the clubs for almost a decade.

I know what you mean, I've felt less interested in football this season in general and haven't even watched a number of our games this season even when I've had free time, and that's unheard of for me. Lockdowns 2 & 3 have definitely played a part in that but the lack of crowds is definitely more apparent - I even think the fake crowd noise has been toned-down too. Most games - not just ours - feel all a bit hollow to me right now.

 

I don't think it's just me, either, I think chat in this thread is a lot slower-paced compared to previous seasons too.

 

In fact, whilst I do still feel deflated about last night, I know in previous years I'd be properly down about it all. Now, it's a bit of frustration last night replaced by a bit of a shrug of the shoulders today.

 

I'm sure the team will find a goal from somewhere soon, whether or not that extends to finding a win too we shall see.

[glb]

20 minutes ago, Gabe said:

In fact, whilst I do still feel deflated about last night, I know in previous years I'd be properly down about it all. Now, it's a bit of frustration last night replaced by a bit of a shrug of the shoulders today.

Totally this. I was downbeat for a short while after full-time, but almost feels like it never happened now. All just feels inconsequential.

 

I’d also normally be getting butterflies about Sunday. Man United away in the cup! Massive. The travelling Kop in full voice. The Stretford End hating Scousers and loving Rooney. Six times this, twenty times that. And yet... none of that. Just a game of half-speed football, probably a penalty shoot-out and another shrug at the result.

[Gabe]

Yeah, our season could very well be pretty much over domestically in the next 2/3 weeks and right now I don't even think that would elicit much more emotion from me than a bit of a sigh. And yet I do still enjoy talking about it here, I find it more fun seeing everybody's opinions and stuff than watching the games.

 

I think we'll lose on Sunday - Utd are just a much better functioning team right now - and I'm not even sure if I'll put myself through it. In fairness, some of that is because our FA Cup record has been largely miserable for a while now and I've never really felt like Klopp has been 100% behind trying to win it. I reckon he'll put out a strong team because another defeat with no goals (especially if it's a heavy one) will be even worse for confidence but meh, I don't deep down believe it will matter.

[Azrael]

It's all a bit doom and gloom at the moment but look at it this way; we've been dogshit for the last month and are still only 6 points off the top spot. This season is so unpredictable anything could happen. Surely we'll score again at some point 

[Gabe]

I guess it's a bit doom and gloom but more just not really feeling connected with football all that much at the moment. It'll pass, it always does.

 

In my defence though, there's not a great deal of positivity on the pitch at the moment and you're only as good as your last result...

[CheekyLee]

I agree, this all feels so flat. I live in Manchester, so get to talk to City and United fans, and they're all in agreement that this season is still there for anyone who puts a run together. The last couple of seasons have proved that you need at least 10 points lead on us and City to have any chance of making it, and until we're there I'll retain my belief.

[Paulando]

2 hours ago, glb said:

On a tangent, feel much more detached from this season compared to last season. Games feel a bit empty without any crowd and the feeling of detachment has built up, probably compounded by our games being one of the few things to actually look forward to while existing during lockdown. Think the Man United game, normally a vibrant, loud, tense affair, was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. It all felt so tepid, and not just in the two sides' performances; there was no sense of peril or tension or, for want of a better word, passion. Just a humdrum fixture fulfilment, when really Anfield should have been rocking with the stakes being higher than they have between the clubs for almost a decade.

Definitely this. It just isn’t the same, and I think everyone is getting ‘empty stadium’-fatigue, including the teams, after initially being pleased to have any football.