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This article provides an interesting counterpoint to everything that's come out today:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpools-raheem-sterling-wants-transfer-6029639

I can completely see that the club is waging a PR battle against Sterling/his agent - and why would they not. Obviously he's not gone about things in the right way at all, but the club won't come out of this completely blameless.

Rodgers seems very manipulative. Carroll spoke about how he was continually told he'd get the chance to prove himself...then immediately loaned to West Ham. The likes of Reina and Agger haven't been complimentary either. Basically, players need to stay on Rodgers' good side.

There's no doubt Liverpool are to blame as well, hugely.

The number of 'leaks' we have at the club is disgraceful. For example, last season, everyone knew the starting 11 like 3-4 days in advance barring any last minute forced changes. Whether that was leaks or people just looking over the fence (hence the new privacy screen) is up for debate. But our dealings are constantly in the press and as I've mentioned before...people at the club just love to talk, not least Rodgers. It's obvious the guy has an ego, you can see that how he drones on when we win, telling us every little detail of how he has done it. Players like Carra, Gerrard, Agger, Reina...big players, older player, with big personalities have all left...I honestly think a lot of that was down to Rodgers and of course FSG's financial structure (though Adrock is absolutely right on Pepe, he courted Barca for way to long). Players who have left often have had bad words to say about Rodgers too, sure...they're probably bitter, but there has to be something in it. There is definitely something there personality wise that rubs people the wrong way.

I'm 100% behind the manager now as he is the man in charge, and whilst I do believe Sterling's camp is the party to blame in all of this (did he really have to insult the club and call Carragher a knob in a London paper, for example?), I am realistic enough to know that it isn't that cut and dry.

On Lovren and Lallana. Agree that Lovren acted badly, but not Lallana. Him refusing to play was just a made up rumour, based on everything we've learned since then, he wanted a move to a bigger and better club after giving most of his career to Southampton and being exemplary in the process.

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I just wish clubs would insist that unless a set asking price is reached then no sale will take place until a transfer request is handed in.

Raheem: "I don't want to come on tour because I want to leave and join Man City"

LFC: "Fine, hand in a transfer request and we will make it happen. If not, they need to give us 50 big ones"

You used to get transfer requests all the time, now they are seen as some taboo which must never be spoken about.

And while I am at it (and massively off the subject) bring back free kicks inside the penalty area as well :quote:

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Yeah, I know that, just wish it was an official policy of sorts. Raheem, how much do you really want to leave exactly? Are you happy to forgo the sell-on fee? You've been telling us all along that it's not about the money, let's see if that is really the case. Surely with a transfer request handed in, we can afford to sell for 5 million less with the money we would save. Everyone wins?

The crazy thing in this case is that with every statement and action Raheem has done over the last few months, he has made it easier and easier for LFC to be completely free of any blame. He has already made a lasting reputation for himself, as the greedy, money grabbing, footballer, being roundly booed by all sets of fans at the latest England game. I just can't see this ending well for him if he continues to use his current tactics. I hope Liverpool keep him at Melwood and have him training on his own while the tour is on. He needs to be away from Rodgers and the players at this time. If he is still around when the team returns from the tour, then they can all train together and plan for the start of the season.

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I hope Liverpool keep him at Melwood and have him training on his own while the tour is on. He needs to be away from Rodgers and the players at this time. If he is still around when the team returns from the tour, then they can all train together and plan for the start of the season.

That's what he wants to do apparently. I'd imagine the main reason for not wanting to go on the tour is that he doesn't want to be in the limelight, especially after all the abusive messages he got the other night. He only missed training after that had happened, he was in on Monday and Tuesday.

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Apparently he has missed training again today, called in sick!

I have no sympathy with the guy. As it was said above, Liverpool haven't said he can't leave they just are waiting for an offer they believe to be fair to come in. One of the 'cons' about being a footballer is you sign a contract and you are bound to that. I think the 'pros' definitely outweigh the cons so for him to stop doing his job is just taking the piss. Yes I know others have done it, but that's not a justifiable reason not to do your job you get paid for.

I'd be worried if I was a Man City fan, do they want this sort of grief in the future?

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As badly as it's been handled by his party so far, I don't think I'd want to go to work if a bunch of dickheads came to my house to threaten me. A 20 year old kid shouldn't have to put up with that shit, regardless of what he does for a living.

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He's 20, he's played this terribly. City won't care, they just need a young English player to sit on the bench.

Although I'm not convinced he'll ever be a top class player he'll get into the City team ahead of a Navas or Nasri.

We want £50 million, they bid £40 million. Surely we'll compromise and meet in the middle? We need to get Sterling moved out sharpish. Get our forward and left back bought so that we can move on from this and just concentrate on becoming a coherent football team again.

If we didn't have Ibe you'd consider fighting for Sterling but we do and he looks like someone worth working with.

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On Lovren and Lallana. Agree that Lovren acted badly, but not Lallana. Him refusing to play was just a made up rumour, based on everything we've learned since then, he wanted a move to a bigger and better club after giving most of his career to Southampton and being exemplary in the process.

Yeah, and I'm sure if pictures of sterling signing a man city shirt whilst on international duty came out that'd be fine too.

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I don't think, despite all evidence to the contrary, you are a total imbecile, so you must realise the context of the situation pictured and how it pertains to the situation I outlined in my post.

I can expand on it if it's not clear.

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All footballers (well, 99.9%) are primarily motivated by money, followed by the chance to win titles prompting them to press for moves to get them.

Some footballers make that flammable situation worse by doing stupid things like leaking stories to the press or other badly advised acts that just provoke their existing club fan base. Disrespect of that nature is hard to forgive for many.

Fans sometimes can't accept that players don't have the same emotional connection to the club that they do, which can make them turn into rabid fanboys of the worst kind: those unable to view the situation with compassion or perspective.

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In some ways, yes. I'm an emotional beast (as are we all) and the way those two disrespected the club and by extension, the fans, left a mark.

I'd argue against being labelled a rabid fan though. I'll not boo or shout abuse at them, and although I will gain pleasure in seeing them having a bad game or season I'd not wish harm on them.

But (and it's a big 'but' given the views on offer in this thread at times) I can also view the situation with perspective.

I'm a realist. I didn't resent Lallana (or any player since) moving, just the approach they used to get that move.

It'd be nice to have some reasoned debate now and then in this thread. It may be difficult though.

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I have no problem with players moving for money. They only have a finite number of years at the top and once the retire they are never going to make that kind of money again and their career can be ended abruptly like Dean Ashton. If a player does end up staying with a larger contract most fans end up forgiving them, just look at Rooney trying to force a move to City and ending up with a massive pay rise instead. Not many United fans complain about him these days.

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Oh Danny Boy

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This article provides an interesting counterpoint to everything that's come out today:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpools-raheem-sterling-wants-transfer-6029639

I can completely see that the club is waging a PR battle against Sterling/his agent - and why would they not. Obviously he's not gone about things in the right way at all, but the club won't come out of this completely blameless.

Rodgers seems very manipulative. Carroll spoke about how he was continually told he'd get the chance to prove himself...then immediately loaned to West Ham. The likes of Reina and Agger haven't been complimentary either. Basically, players need to stay on Rodgers' good side.

Rodgers that bastard! Gave the kid a mid season break to Jamaica, publicly defended him during the fallout from him pulling out of an England game due to tiredness and continued to show faith in him when he was stinking it up over the last few months. What an absolute cunt, no wonder Sterling no longer wants to play for him.

In other news Gerrard says that Sterling and Henderson are at different ends of the scale of professionalism. You could read into that a lot regarding what's been going on behind the scenes and in training.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33473145

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Yeah, Lovren and Lallana were both posting shite like that up until the Jan before they left. It just makes things worse when a bigger teams comes calling.

I prefer it when players just concentrate on playing football & keep it off social media.

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Oh Danny Boy

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can't tell if Sturridge is backing up Sterling, if so he's a cheeky twat, he's been on 150k a week doing almost nothing! Need to clarify Daniel

I said it at the time that I thought that Sterling was causing issues behind the scenes. Gerrard's interview confirmed that for me. When Man City return with a new offer sell and get him away from the team.

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