Liverpool Football Club Thread

[sith]

£40m + Jovetic for Raheem is what I'd find acceptable.

Jesus you Liverpool fans are deluded. In what world is a player with a year left on his contract worth 55-60M??

Liverpool are playing a dangerous game if they reject a 40M offer if you ask me.

[glb]

He's got two years on his contract. But besides that, anything above or around £40m for a player with potential but who hasn't actually achieved all that much is a great deal. Especially as we've still got Jordan Ibe.

[Adrock]

Jesus you Liverpool fans are deluded. In what world is a player with a year left on his contract worth 55-60M??

Liverpool are playing a dangerous game if they reject a 40M offer if you ask me.

I don't think it's delusion, nobody has said he is worth the money but city want him and after a second offer of course you can turn it down because it's pretty much guaranteed they won't walk away just yet.

As said above he has 2 years left

[Chewylegs]

After paying £35m for Andy Carroll I think we deserve to sell our own overrated player at an extortionate price!

I'd be happy with £40m + add ons. :-)

[hmm]

Yeah, that was sort of how we funded the Carroll absurdity in the first place.

[Istanbul]

£40m rejected for Sterling. Holding out for £50m.

Southampton want £15m for Clyne. Liverpool initially offered £9m. Nothing new yet.

Joe Gomez looks to be happening for sure.

[Stig]

I think Clyne is going to happen too, as Southampton are lining up replacements. Obviously this is what I've read so all with a pinch of salt.

[dogsout]

Jesus you Liverpool fans are deluded. In what world is a player with a year left on his contract worth 55-60M??

Liverpool are playing a dangerous game if they reject a 40M offer if you ask me.

Weren't you in here saying the same about Suarez two summers ago? Sterling has two years left on a £35k p/w deal. It will be costly for him to run the contract down considering the amount he could be earning if he were to sign a new deal. On top of this, due to his age, he won't be able to leave on a bosman at the end of his contract - his fee will be set by tribunal. Then there's the risk of him pissing the club off enough that he could be dropped during the season before an international tournament. Essentially, there are a lot of ways that the club can hurt him/his career. All he can do is keep agitating for a move and hope he gets it. For this to happen another club has to value him highly enough to pay an amount that makes the sale appeal to LFC. It's quite obvious where this is going: either City will pay over the odds for him, or he will sign an extension (with a minimum fee release clause, I'd bet) and leave next year or whatever.

[lolly]

I think Clyne is going to happen too, as Southampton are lining up replacements. Obviously this is what I've read so all with a pinch of salt.

Why not just buy whoever Southampton are looking at after shaking their tree for Clyne?

Bit of a dick move but all's fair in Lovren and war...

[sith]

Weren't you in here saying the same about Suarez two summers ago? Sterling has two years left on a £35k p/w deal. It will be costly for him to run the contract down considering the amount he could be earning if he were to sign a new deal. On top of this, due to his age, he won't be able to leave on a bosman at the end of his contract - his fee will be set by tribunal. Then there's the risk of him pissing the club off enough that he could be dropped during the season before an international tournament. Essentially, there are a lot of ways that the club can hurt him/his career. All he can do is keep agitating for a move and hope he gets it. For this to happen another club has to value him highly enough to pay an amount that makes the sale appeal to LFC. It's quite obvious where this is going: either City will pay over the odds for him, or he will sign an extension (with a minimum fee release clause, I'd bet) and leave next year or whatever.

No, I'm pretty sure I said Liverpool would be shit once Suarez left and everyone laughed.

I'm not trying to be a troll like paddyo but the fact that Sterling is apparently worth 50M is baffling. Even more baffling is that City will probably pay it.

[Gabe]

I'm not trying to be a troll like paddyo but the fact that Sterling is apparently worth 50M is baffling. Even more baffling is that City will probably pay it.

Re-read the dogout's post again, because it tells you exactly what the situation is.

Nobody thinks Sterling is worth £50m - but that's irrelevant when we don't need to sell. Its about maximising what we get for him if he's going, and if City want to pay it, good luck to them.

[DeNeo]

It's pretty simple really - when a club don't have to sell, the buyer has to pay a premium. Just look at Southampton.

[Doomguy]

After paying £35m for Andy Carroll I think we deserve to sell our own overrated player at an extortionate price!

I'd be happy with £40m + add ons. :-)

Ha true this.

I'm all for getting as much money as possible out of moneybags city. They seem hell bent on pissing money away so why not for sterling? they'll find out later he's overrated so it's win win.

[Istanbul]

Lots or reports that Liverpool are trying to 'hijack' United's Roberto Firmino deal.

Can see it now...

"So, Roberto lad...we're going to be;

- paying you less money.

- in an inferior European competition.

- with less chance of winning any trophy or qualifying for the Champions League.

- We've also got a less established coach,

- an inferior stadium,

- and a worse squad...

- but at least you won't have to work with a manager that has a parsnip head....

When do you want to sign?

On the plus side, Joe Gomez deal done and should be announced today. Hope he make it and doesn't become yet another forgotten prospect. Toure surely only has one year left now, so there's going to be a spot open assuming we keep Skrtel, Sakho and (gulp)...Lovren. So he'll be wrestling for that spot with maybe Ilori and Wisdom possibly. Maybe someone new. Hopefully not Ashley Williams.

[glb]

What's the dilly-o with Mateo Kovacic? Seen a few reports we've agreed a fee, or is it just a load of summer silliness to fill a few column inches?

[DeNeo]

None of the 'reliable' journalists (i.e. the ones we leak all our transfers to) have mentioned it, so I can't see that one happening.

[ryodi]

Borini is now looking for a move away from Liverpool

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/19/fabio-borini-wants-to-leave-liverpool-agent

The Liverpool forward Fabio Borini wants to leave the club this summer, according to his agent. Borini made just 12 Premier League appearances for Liverpool in the 2014-15 campaign and the Italian wants a move away from Anfield in search of more playing time.

“Fabio wants a new experience,” Borini’s agent Marco De Marchi told the Italian sports newspaper Corriere dello Sport. “We expected more consideration from Liverpool. There are teams from all over Europe interested in him.

There's only a year left on his contract so I can't see us getting anywhere near the £12 Sunderland nearly paid for him last summer. I appreciate he thought he was good enough to fight his way into the team and didn't want the career dead end that Sunderland have turned into and I wish him well in the future. He's only 24 and I imagine with a good run of games he'll be a good signing for a Bundesliga or Serie A side, I doubt he'll stay in England.

[Istanbul]

Joe Gomez.

[DeNeo]

Now we're being linked with Llorente or Bacca as Benteke's fee is too high.

So it seems like we're definitely changing to 2 up front - I think both would be as isolated as Lambert and Balotelli if they were played without a partner.

[Stig]

Fowler sent a text message to Rafa before the charity game last week

[Istanbul]

Now we're being linked with Llorente or Bacca as Benteke's fee is too high.

So it seems like we're definitely changing to 2 up front - I think both would be as isolated as Lambert and Balotelli if they were played without a partner.

Think he fancies 'the diamond' again now... Can (DM), Milner (CM), Henderson (CM), Coutinho (AM)...then the two attackers up front. Hopefully Ibe and Markovic will still find a place in that team at some point. Ibe up front maybe, Markovic through the middle.

[DeNeo]

It would make sense of the proposed Firmino deal too. Makes me think all this is being done with selling Sterling in mind, even though we should be able to afford Firmino and Bacca without selling him.

If he stays he'll likely be playing as an AM in a diamond, just like Firmino and Lallana would (with Coutinho as a CM, as Dogsout proposed) - we'd have far too many players in that position. And if we're going after an AM and a ST, I really don't think 433 is going to be used as much.

[DeNeo]

While we're on the diamond, I wonder if Can's attacking performances for Germany U21s show a future as more of a CM than a DM. And has Milner been bought to recreate the Gerrard 'DM' role from 13/14? We know Rodgers doesn't particularly like playing defensive players in that position.

So if we sold Sterling and bought an AM and a ST, we could line up like this:

-----Bacca/Ings--Sturridge/Origi

---------Firmino/Lallana

-----Coutinho/Can--Henderson

----------Milner/Lucas

Moreno---Sakho---Skrtel---Clyne

[SMD]

I like you're not fussed on the defence

[DeNeo]

I think that's going to have the least amount of rotation next season, especially if we get Clyne. Until Flanagan is fit anyway.

[Gabe]

Well, he is God ... according to you nutters at least.

He was unbelievably gifted, had a great left peg and a pretty good right too, could score all around and outside of the box, wasn't terrible in the air (though it was the weakest part of his game), had great awareness and vision and was a close to a natural striker as we've had in a very long time. I still remember the incident now from which he never managed to stay fit - a Monday night game v Everton, an innocuous knock near the end at the Anfield Road end. He was out for a fair while and then Houllier never really fancied him and, well, there you go.

For different reasons I love him even more than Gerrard, mainly because whilst there was a bit of Stevie G, with Fowler he showed his arrogance on the pitch, but was always pretty humble off it. Great player, I still have the 'Fowler's Hot 100' video somewhere.

[Istanbul]

Bacca and Firmino would be two fantastic signings. Would be really excited about them. Have no faith in us getting them done though.

[DeNeo]

Exactly - they make far too much sense for us to actually get them

[Chewylegs]

Firmino fee agreed apparently, although I'll believe that he's signed when I see him in a Liverpool shirt. If it happens though, I understand he's a pretty special player.

[Commander Jameson]

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