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2019 - 1 game from League & Champions League Double Winners & Going Unbeaten All Season

2020 - Won the League but No Crowds or Parade

2022- 1 game & 1 Point from 4 Trophies

We have won stuff but some big kick in balls mentally

We will be back though

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Big game today in the WSL against fellow relegation candidates Reading. Three points is a must as Leicester are finding the performances now, but with Tottenham being pulled into the fight and Brighton only getting a point yesterday, a win today and next weekend against Leicester can see us open up a gap.

 

It is live on the FA Player at 2PM if anyone is interested.

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1 hour ago, BongoInferno said:

Good article here suggesting the problems on the pitch are being compounded by issues off it: 

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12801936/liverpool-how-jurgen-klopps-reds-have-been-hurt-on-the-pitch-by-a-brain-drain-off-it


Speaks to how cyclical football is. We’ve been spoiled the last few years. In fact, the lowest I’ve seen us finish in my lifetime is eighth, which will more than likely be beaten this season, but still. We’ve had it good, almost footballing immortality good last season, but the pressure to sustain success is increasingly relentless.
 

Even in the most dominant era of the club, the 70s and 80s, the club won the league just over 50% of the time. That they won one title in Man City’s era is remarkable enough, adding in everything else and it’s been a golden period. The collapse appears inexplicable, but articles like that do a good job of explaining why we’re languishing.
 

There’s no one solution, but I hope Klopp is given time enough to change things up. Addressing key areas in the summer will help, but guess that very much depends on FSG’s position as owners and what’s available for upgrading the squad. Suspect at least a half-dozen will leave, and even in an ideal world it could take a season or two to even challenge for the top four again.

 

But we’ve climbed the mountain before and will do so again. Just hope it doesn’t take another 30 years because I’m not getting any younger and I’d quite fancy the big old beano in Liverpool that never happened in 2020.

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Yes! Massive win with goals from Bo and Ceri. We've gone above Tottenham now and if West Ham lose as expected against Arsenal tonight then we are only four points behind them with two games in hand. However one of those games is Chelsea away 

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3 hours ago, BongoInferno said:

Good article here suggesting the problems on the pitch are being compounded by issues off it: 

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12801936/liverpool-how-jurgen-klopps-reds-have-been-hurt-on-the-pitch-by-a-brain-drain-off-it

Not much new in there (except perhaps for the scale of the backroom departures), but a good article all the same which highlights that the club is currently in a bit of strife. I did wonder previously if Gakpo was a boardroom signing and that article suggests not, but I do wonder if he would've come in had Edwards remained; I suspect not.

 

2 hours ago, glb said:

Even in the most dominant era of the club, the 70s and 80s, the club won the league just over 50% of the time. That they won one title in Man City’s era is remarkable enough, adding in everything else and it’s been a golden period. The collapse appears inexplicable, but articles like that do a good job of explaining why we’re languishing.

 

It's interesting when you look at the actual data compared to how things 'feel' and Man City are currently running at 50% of title wins (taking from the start of their arrival with big money - 2011/12 to now). Liverpool (70s & 80s) and Man Utd (92/92 to 12/13) both run at ~61% (11 titles in 18 seasons for Liverpool, 13 in 21 for Man Utd), so Man City aren't as dominant as you might think. Obviously if you just look at the Pep era that only jumps to 57% (4 in 7) and it is of course a smaller sample size.

 

2 hours ago, glb said:

There’s no one solution, but I hope Klopp is given time enough to change things up. Addressing key areas in the summer will help, but guess that very much depends on FSG’s position as owners and what’s available for upgrading the squad. Suspect at least a half-dozen will leave, and even in an ideal world it could take a season or two to even challenge for the top four again.

 

But we’ve climbed the mountain before and will do so again. Just hope it doesn’t take another 30 years because I’m not getting any younger and I’d quite fancy the big old beano in Liverpool that never happened in 2020.

 

Klopp won't be sacked regardless. The club needs him more than he needs the club, and everybody knows it. Even with how bad we are right now, is there realistically anybody else around that could knock this team into shape? (That's a rhetorical question.)

 

But I do think there's a real danger we could drift into another 90s/early 00s scenario. Lack of quality in the squad and manager's seat, starting to take the occasional win over Man Utd as being a 'good' season etc. It really could go either way, I think FSG selling or getting significant investment is key - and the problem with selling is who 'decent' is around to buy? That's a whole other issue.

 

Anyway, all we can do is focus on the football - and the next 5 fixtures look fun, don't they? Everton, Newcastle, Real, Crystal Palace and Man Utd. The way they are playing, perhaps 2 points and keeping Real below 3 for the second leg? Fun times :D

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4 hours ago, BongoInferno said:

Good article here suggesting the problems on the pitch are being compounded by issues off it: 

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12801936/liverpool-how-jurgen-klopps-reds-have-been-hurt-on-the-pitch-by-a-brain-drain-off-it

That's an interesting article.  I didn't know a whole lot about the back room staff being so decimated and that definitely will have an effect on how the squad is prioritised.  Definitely writing at the moment, just hope some key performers can get back in the team and we can go on a bit of a run. Getting rid of klopp would be a very stupid move indeed.

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39 minutes ago, Gabe said:

It's interesting when you look at the actual data compared to how things 'feel' and Man City are currently running at 50% of title wins (taking from the start of their arrival with big money - 2011/12 to now). Liverpool (70s & 80s) and Man Utd (92/92 to 12/13) both run at ~61% (11 titles in 18 seasons for Liverpool, 13 in 21 for Man Utd), so Man City aren't as dominant as you might think. Obviously if you just look at the Pep era that only jumps to 57% (4 in 7) and it is of course a smaller sample size.

If the Pep era is 57% currently, 4% off the most dominant teams English football have ever seen, I'd personally say that is very dominant indeed (taking in account he is still in charge). Manchester Utd winning era felt like it would never end, just hope that isn't the same for Man City.  

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1 hour ago, Chewylegs said:

If the Pep era is 57% currently, 4% off the most dominant teams English football have ever seen, I'd personally say that is very dominant indeed (taking in account he is still in charge). Manchester Utd winning era felt like it would never end, just hope that isn't the same for Man City.  

Oh yeah, they are the dominant team, no question. But the comparison was more over longer periods (and more titles), so was looking at the bigger picture. In the here and now, Pep is obviously king. 

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1 hour ago, Chewylegs said:

If the Pep era is 57% currently, 4% off the most dominant teams English football have ever seen, I'd personally say that is very dominant indeed (taking in account he is still in charge). Manchester Utd winning era felt like it would never end, just hope that isn't the same for Man City.  

Oh yeah, they are the dominant team, no question. But the comparison was more over longer periods (and more titles), so was looking at the bigger picture. In the here and now, Pep is obviously king. 

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1 hour ago, Gabe said:

Oh yeah, they are the dominant team, no question. But the comparison was more over longer periods (and more titles), so was looking at the bigger picture. In the here and now, Pep is obviously king. 

Pep stays and I think City will dominate for another 5 years.  He goes any time soon and I can see it being a couple of seasons of it could be anyone's and then Newcastle start spending big and take over for a bit.

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Women's Merseyside derby is at Goodison. Tickets are £8 adult / £4 kids. If anyone is around that weekend.

 

Only one issue... To buy tickets.

 

Spoiler

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7 hours ago, bradigor said:

Thiago looks to be out of the derby. 


Might be a blessing given his impact post-World Cup.

 

Joe Allen soon to be seen sneaking into the training ground.

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10 minutes ago, Oh Danny Boy said:

Jota and Firmino are back. Finally some good news, hopefully will give the team a boost. 

 

Jota off the bench should also give the stadium a lift if needed in the second half.

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