A Star Wars Question

[SeanR]

I thought he said 'the boy is not the last hope, there is another', or something to that effect.

obi: that boy was our last hope

Yoda: no, there is another.

now surely obiwan knew about the spoiler, on account of episode III?

and that's another reason why the prequel trilogy is shit. And yet, that's also the best part of the prequel trilogy

[gizmo1990]

After 4 pages of fairly pointless debate, I hope we're going to get a concise review of Twinkly's opinion?

And again, just watch 4, 5 and 6, it really is as simple as that.

[Sardan]

Right so we don't know who the other is but we know it wasn't supposed to be Leia?

[Sponge]

Well, apparently, Vadar and Anakin were originally two different people and Obi's explanation of events in ANH was more literal than the "from a certain point of view" he spouts in Jedi. The Vadar/Anakin/daddy twist was added in Empire for dramatic effct (which then changes the whole back story of Obi and Anakin) and the "other" was decided during RotJ planning for similar reasons. This is all "apparently" though I have no idea how accurate it is. The subsequent films weren't written or planed out anymore than ESB or RotJ were when ANH was written, so characters and events weren't decided.

[Dr Nookie]

Well it's 12.15 and no news.

Feedback is due....

[Pistol]

I've never watched Return of the Sith yet.

[Garwoofoo]

I've never watched Return of the Sith yet.

Me neither. The first two are shit and I know how it ends. What's the point?

[Shoes]

Because this

[JamesTW]

Me neither. The first two are shit and I know how it ends. What's the point?

Well, the means to the end? you don't know the specific reason why on a few things if you've only watched until Episode 2, maybe you're not arsed but I'm just saying there is a point to it, plus its a good film aswell

[Lag]

Why watch Sith? Because:

You get to see Kenobi dismember his best friend and leave him to die. er...

[twinklyspangle]

I haven't watched anything yet my xbox gave up the ghost and I've taken it all apart and realigned the laser but it won't read any discs and all my downloaded content is all weird.

I need a new laser.

[SeanR]

do you have any idea how much they're charging ma lazors?

[Sprite Machine]

I haven't watched anything yet my xbox gave up the ghost and I've taken it all apart and realigned the laser but it won't read any discs and all my downloaded content is all weird.

I need a new laser.

Use force.

[twinklyspangle]

come onnnn only two laser jokes?

[JamesTW]

Why watch Sith? Because:

You get to see Kenobi dismember his best friend and leave him to die. er...

Correct me if I'm wrong but Anakin hadnt even met Palpatine yet? If you haven't seen it then you have no idea why he turned into Darth Vader apart from him being a dick in Episode 2 so there's a good reason to see it

[Mogster]

There's still no good reason.

[Dr Nookie]

come onnnn only two laser jokes?

Oh do come on. When did this happen?

You mean you don't:

a - have an actual stand-alone dvd play

and/or,

b - know anyone boyfriend/girlfriend/anyone with any means of playing a dvd.

Lock thread, passed, the moment has....

[Jammy]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Anakin hadnt even met Palpatine yet? If you haven't seen it then you have no idea why he turned into Darth Vader apart from him being a dick in Episode 2 so there's a good reason to see it

I hate to do it, but

he does meet Palpatine right at the end of Phantom Menace. I think Palpatine says something like "I will watch your career with great interest".

I feel a tiny bit dirty for even knowing that tbh.

[Shoes]

I haven't watched anything yet my xbox gave up the ghost and I've taken it all apart and realigned the laser but it won't read any discs and all my downloaded content is all weird.

I need a new laser.

I don't know where you get your delusions, laser-brain.

[PK]

Another vote for just watching the original 3 and leaving it at that - they're fun, well-paced PG action films with some brilliant chemistry between the cast, a bit of fairly harmless humour and some exciting revelations and set pieces. In comparison the prequels are just quite bland, boring films. There's some reasonably pretty (but rapidly aging) CGI in places if you're into that sort of thing but 99% of the action is too visually busy to be enjoyable and the performances are dreadful across the board.

They also suffer the usual problem you get when you try to fill in the blanks after an audience has already done it mentally. There's some things that are vaguely referred to in the first films which sound like epic events when you're imagining them yourself, but when they're actually presented in ropey CGI they're hugely underwhelming.

[sandman]

The hate for the prequels on this forum (and the internet in general) will never cease to amaze me. Just look at how many negs my review of the prequels got in the movie watcher blogs. Thats right, negged for enjoying something. Just pathetic.

Some people like the prequels. GET. OVER. IT. Yes, they are often a bit shit, but they are also often very good (well, maybe not AOTC so much).

I would watch them in order of release. None of the rest of them are a patch on Empire though. Its head and shoulders above the rest.

[Davros sock drawer]

Sorry, but I pretty much write off as people anyone who likes the prequels.

[SonOfSoAngry]

Chalk me up as another one who hasn't actually watched Revenge Of The Sith. Sure, I've watched Harry Plinkett's review and I know what the plot is through a combination of morbid curiosity and wikipedia but have I spent hard earned money and free time on it in its unadulterated form? No.

Watching Phantom Menace in the cinema was a miserable experience, so much so that I was going to give Attack Of The Clones a miss because I couldn't see Lucas turning it round. But the first few weeks after AotC came out people I knew who'd seen it kept saying things like "No, no... it's much better than Phantom Menace! That one was rubbish! This one's really good!" so, against my better judgement, off I went to the cinema again.

And it was worse than the first one.

Jump forward to the release of Revenge of the Sith. I'm not intending to go. People start telling me that unlike the first two this one is "actually really good."

...

Yeah. Fuck THAT.

[Davros sock drawer]

I very nearly walked out of Attack of the Clones. I think it was the bit with the "death sticks".

Didn't see Sith at the cinema.

[Sabreman]

I didn't see Sith at the cinema, which would have been an unbelievable concept for myself in the mid-90s.

[Sprite Machine]

Sorry, but I pretty much write off as people anyone who likes the prequels.

What does that even mean?

[twinklyspangle]

Oh do come on. When did this happen?

You mean you don't:

a - have an actual stand-alone dvd play

and/or,

b - know anyone boyfriend/girlfriend/anyone with any means of playing a dvd.

Lock thread, passed, the moment has....

I don't have a stand alone DVD player because I have an XBOX so when my old one died I didn't replace it.

And yes I do, but I don't have many friends who will be happy to sit with me through the whole star wars series.

[Dr Nookie]

I don't have a stand alone DVD player because I have an XBOX so when my old one died I didn't replace it.

And yes I do, but I don't have many friends who will be happy to sit with me through the whole star wars series.

You've killed a dvd and an xbox? OK, the xbox isn't difficult to kill tbf.

I dunno, it's mighty frustrating this....

[twinklyspangle]

Er, yes.

I know, I'm shit.

Anyway I have downloaded it all onto my tablet so I'm ready for the marathon.

[Davros sock drawer]

What does that even mean?

It means that if their standards are that low then they're probably not worth knowing as a person.

I don't really mean it, in fact it's just something Frank Skinner says a lot on his radio show. But I would question the taste of anyone who could enjoy something so utterly beyond redemption.