PlayStation 4 Console Thread

[SeanR]

Right now I can play Xbox 360 Mass Effect on my Xbox One and it's free if I owned the game on Xbox 360 and the save games carry on from where they were left off on the Xbox 360. And if I choose to play the game on Xbox 360 for real the save games are just synced as they're stored in the cloud.

Owned? Past tense? I though you needed the disc in to authenticate?

[edit]

Ah, of course, digital distribution gaming. Duh! I wasn't a fan of that last gen. At least not paying for them. I have GwG and PS+ titles, obv.

[rafaqat]

£6 for 30 days sounds okay, given I'm unlikely to be playing anything on Now that's going to take over a month to finish.

I don't like having a time limit on games. I don't have much time to play them so I generally take ages to get through a game. I'd be much happier if it monitored your playtime and counted that. If I get through a game in around 10-12 hours playtime it can easily take me over a month playing it in small chunks.

[rafaqat]

I thought it did? $20 a month, Netflix style.

I'll have to take a look but I've not seen that option on the UK beta yet. They started out the beta with the games being free then after a while started charging and just recently changed the prices. They're obviously seeing at what point the beta testers start biting so I've done my bit and not paid for anything. I'd like it to be free or have a subscription price that is around £5 a month. Preferably free for games I already own.

[rafaqat]

£6 for 30 days sounds okay, given I'm unlikely to be playing anything on Now that's going to take over a month to finish.

I always take a look to see how much that game is second hand and generally you can own the thing for that amount. Plus resale.

[SeanR]

Wait, it's still not past tense...

[Guest]

That and the fact that my saves from physical disks don't work with the same game when streamed. That was pretty fucking annoying. Amazing tech, piss poor pricing and missing out on the important little things.

Saves from my old physical games automatically worked with every PSnow title I tried so that's bullshit. Literally the only problem with the service (if you have a good connection) is the stupid pricing, it's just too much. I'm never going to use it for that reason.

[villenium]

A monthly or yearly subscription makes much more sense with a service like this. If they go by any other route it will probably fall on its arse after the honeymoon period.

The 'paid' Beta should at least throw you a bit of credit to start with. I paid for the original Xbox Beta but at least you got a headset and choice of Gamertag to show for your money.

[Graham S]

Does £6 for 30 days let you play all games or one specific game? The former sounds fine, the latter I would never use.

[Dudley]

Given people are saying there's no subscription I'm guessing the latter.

[ChewMagma]

£6 to play one game for 30 days?!? Fucking lol.

I hope that isn't the final pricing structure. I was quite looking forward to this, as I didn't have a PS3 last gen so I would potentially have got quite a lot of use out of it, but yeah no way at that price. Cheaper in the long run and easier just to get a second hand PS3 I'd imagine.

[Not Thread Owner]

You can rent games on PS+? Is this UK only as well?

All PS+ games are rentals - you only "own" them while you continue to pay for them.

[fieldy12345]

what happens if your membership expires then you come to renew it again, will you be able to play all of the PS+ games you previously downloaded?

[Jazz Glands]

Yep.

[rafaqat]

Does £6 for 30 days let you play all games or one specific game? The former sounds fine, the latter I would never use.

One game.

It's too much.

[womblingfree]

£6 to rent the latest games for a month sounds great. I rarely play any game longer than that and even if I did decide to buy after a month, chances are it'd have plummeted in price by more than six quid. Likewise buying a hard copy for fifty quid and then reselling the disc, chances are you'd be down way more than six quid.

If it's just for older titles you can pick up for peanuts then obviously that's rather naff. Still, so is paying a fiver to rent Rambo on Amazon Prime. But when you're pissed at midnight on a Saturday with instant access to whatever you want for a few quid...well, I guess we'd all have a punt on something or other.

[villenium]

In fairness they do say they are looking at a subscription model for the future. Although I can't remember exactly where I read that.

£20 for six months, allowing you to play anything, would be quite attractive I think. Mainly because I never had a PS3 but also because I've retired my 360. Any more than that and, on top of a PS+ sub, I start to question the value as I'm mostly playing retail games anyway.

[TehStu]

Ah, sounds like what I mentioned is US pricing only. There's 100 odd PS3 games on there, and it's $20/month or $45 for 3 months. If my free time wasn't so limited and otherwise filled with PS+ and disc titles, I think that 3 month price would be ok.

Not that Sony will get optional monies out of me until they add 2FA.

[Spacehost]

I always take a look to see how much that game is second hand and generally you can own the thing for that amount. Plus resale.

If I wanted to own it, yeah, I'll hunt down a copy. If I just want to play through some eight-hour B game I'm okay with a £6 rental because by the time I pay postage to send it out I'm probably only saving a quid or two and I hate going to the post office.

I don't see this replacing buying games, but there's a niche in there. If it's a Friday night and I get a sudden hankering to blast through some Far Cry 2 at the weekend, and my options are "play it instantly" or "wait until Tuesday for it to come from eBay" I know which I would choose.

[Guest]

eBay?

[bradigor]

eBay?

It's a website for buying and selling goods, either secondhand or new. But that isn't important right now.

[MW_Jimmy]

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015/07/09/introducing-piecefall-the-first-ps4-student-game-from-the-playstationfirst-programme/

Available for PlayStation 4 from 15th July, the studio’s new game PieceFall is an agile 3D puzzle game set in a world of abstract floating islands. The islands were destroyed by a storm, and it’s the player’s task to return the islands to their former tranquility by rebuilding the land piece by piece.

The original game concept was developed as a group project for students back in October 2013, and it took three different student development teams, 10 months of development time over two years to finally bring it to market. It went through various iterations and game changes, where complex mini-games, bonus levels, multi-player objectives and additional islands had to be sacrificed in order to get a well-polished game over the finish line.

But with the help of local game developers, mentors and a dedicated PS First Producer – the ultimate goal of publishing a PS4 game on the PlayStation Store has been realised. This is the first fully published PS4 student game, paving the way for the next wave of PlayStation developers now in education, and is a real testament to what is possible when you follow your dreams.

Sheffield Hallam University has one of the largest PlayStation teaching labs in the world, and is producing talent that understands the complexities of making a great product for PlayStation and are ready to make the leap from the classroom, straight into AAA game development. It should come as no surprise that all five members of the final team have already secured jobs at LittleBigPlanet 3 developer Sumo Digital in Sheffield and Elite3D in Valencia!

Sheffield Hallam University is a registered PlayStation developer and self-published this game. The copyright is with the academic institution including the student developers.

Do a course, release a game and keep the rights. Very good stuff indeed. Game is out this week priced £1.00

[TehStu]

Might have to grab that just to support the concept.

[jonamok]

Wonder what happens if you put your first 'tetronimo' in the wrong place. Maybe it adapts on the fly and gives you pieces that work with the space you have left. Otherwise it could be a bit trial and error. Looks quite chilled for a Tetris clone though. Worth a punt for a quid of course.

[Curtis]

I keep getting the "your PS4 was not turned off properly." warning upon start-up, even though i definitely choose 'Power Off' and not 'Sleep'. Note that i always turn the wall sockets off at night, but this shouldn't matter.

Anyone else have this problem?

[BossSaru]

I swould suggest rebuilding the database as the first port of call for any such issues.

[Vemsie]

A rather positive Until Dawn preview from Gamespot:

[Yoshimax]

I keep getting the "your PS4 was not turned off properly." warning upon start-up, even though i definitely choose 'Power Off' and not 'Sleep'. Note that i always turn the wall sockets off at night, but this shouldn't matter.

Anyone else have this problem?

Mine did that before it packed in and wouldn't go beyond safe mode till I did the "initialise" thing. Even the infamous database rebuild failed to fix it.

[Garibaldi]

Wrong thread? Right thread?

"...Yay"

Having endured too many shows where the host keeps wringing enthusiasm out of an increasingly awkward winner, for a prize that would only ever warrant a smile and 'cool,', I love this way more than I should.

[Garibaldi]

I keep getting the "your PS4 was not turned off properly." warning upon start-up, even though i definitely choose 'Power Off' and not 'Sleep'. Note that i always turn the wall sockets off at night, but this shouldn't matter.

Anyone else have this problem?

Been having one or two problems lately where mine doesn't shut down properly. It goes into shutdown, flashes for a while, does a double beep then turns off. Apparently that means that it forced a shutdown as it couldn't close a certain program/app. Batman caused this once or twice, Netflix on occasion too.

Another thing is to wait a little once you select power off. The PS4 isn't especially fast at shutting down, so if you power off at the wall before it's finished flashing then you will get an error on next bootup. That caught me out as I'd assumed it would be a lot faster.

[Vemsie]

New look at Tearaway Unfolded: