PlayStation 4 Console Thread

[dataDave]

Is there any harm in just switching the bastard off at the mains?

It shouldn't take three steps to switch something off. It takes forever.

PS. Can we go back to cartridges?

[Simmy]

Is there any harm in just switching the bastard off at the mains?

It shouldn't take three steps to switch something off. It takes forever.

PS. Can we go back to cartridges?

Treat it like you would a PC. If it's in standby or sleep mode you wouldn't hit the mains. If it's properly shut down then you can.

[Graham S]

GameStop are doing PS4 & Bloodborne for £289.

[Stig]

Forgive me for being a bit thick but how does the suspend and resume work? Does it work like a Blu Ray film so if I'm playing a game can I just shut the console down and when I load back up it'll resume from the point I was? Or does it only work if you stick and leave the console in rest mode?

[Grobbelboy]

It only works when you put the console in rest mode. It also remembers the state of apps you were running besides a game (Netflix, YouTube, etc.).

[jonamok]

It's awesome. A year late, tbf, but clever and essential stuff nonetheless.

[Garibaldi]

So now I have to go into a sub-menu to choose power off? I know they're eager to show how snazzy suspend/resume is, but that's bollocks.

[jonamok]

A minor niggle. But not sure why they did it.

[Misery Guts]

Is anyone else being reminded of the new power options EVERY TIME they boot up their PS4 since the update regardless of whether you look at the notification and select ok or is it just me? :-/

[instasis]

minecraft doesn't work with it

[Shimmyhill]

Are there any figures for power use in rest mode?

Also, if i turn my ps4 on without the telly/amp it always defaults to a super low res and i get that res on the vita via remote play - anyone have the same thing and rest mode > remote play fix it??

I would try but i can't find my vita my daughters portable minecraft machine

[toythatkills]

Is anyone else being reminded of the new power options EVERY TIME they boot up their PS4 since the update regardless of whether you look at the notification and select ok or is it just me? :-/

Have you pressed options and marked it as read?

[Misery Guts]

Alas it doesn't respond to that. It's in the "discover" tab and it doesn't seem to remember I've read it several times now. :-/

[toythatkills]

I dunno what the discover tab is

I just went to notifications and all those tips were listed there, so I could press the options button and clear them and they stopped coming back.

[hughes]

Until it's turned off and on again.

[Misery Guts]

Oh well, maybe it'll be fixed in the next "stability" update.

[robdood]

Quick question re game video capture.. Is there a way to just force the ps4 to just record properly? i.e. So I can just record an hour's worth of footage in one go?

[instasis]

No. You'll need to double tap to record play from the point you are at then, when the notification comes up to say its saved, double tap again and hope to god you weren't in the middle of a dramatic boss fight when the notification came up.

[robdood]

Ah that's a shame. Will have to hook up the pvr then!

[MW_Jimmy]

Quick question re game video capture.. Is there a way to just force the ps4 to just record properly? i.e. So I can just record an hour's worth of footage in one go?

Twitch stream and grab the archive from the website?

[Flub]

Sony fucking piss me off. Their PS4 internal speed tester is giving me shit results today. Normally that isn't a problem. It doesn't effect anything since my connection is fine.

Today though I wanted to shareplay a game with a friend and you can't bypass bad upload speed results from the PS4's built in speed tester. I actually have 16meg upload speed but the PS4 is reporting 1.3meg. The bone on the exact same wired network sat right next to the PS4 on the desk reports the correct speed.

I did get to share play Bloodborne on a friend's PS4 which was cool/

[Dude Ranch]

Built in speed tester? Never knew about that.

[Flub]

Yeah. It's in the network settings and part of the new share play feature. The problem comes when it's wrong. I just did a high rez twitch stream and it was perfect. But because sony's speed tester says no I can't share play. Even though I know it'll work fine.

[Spacehost]

I can't imagine why Share Play, which needs to go through Sony's servers, would be blocked when a test of the speed to Sony's servers comes back and says the connection is slow.

Edit- to be not sarcastic for a mo, the speed test will be reporting a low speed connection to Sony's servers because of contention at Sony's end, and is therefore correct in assuming Share Play won't work right.

[Flub]

Why does share play need to be routed through Sony's servers? Are you thinking this through?

[Spacehost]

Why does share play need to be routed through Sony's servers? Are you thinking this through?

I assume it routes everything over PSN rather than direct peer-to-peer because SonyLOL.

[Alex W.]

I'd imagine that most of the streaming functions on the PS4 send the streams to Sony who then multicast it from their own servers, because the average home user doesn't have the bandwidth to stream 720p to hundreds of users. It seems likely that Share Play operates the same way, but with only one viewer, rather than having special peer-to-peer streaming code that bypasses Sony's servers.

[Spacehost]

I'd imagine that most of the streaming functions on the PS4 send the streams to Sony who then multicast it from their own servers, because the average home user doesn't have the bandwidth to stream 720p to hundreds of users. It seems likely that Share Play operates the same way, but with only one viewer, rather than having special peer-to-peer streaming code that bypasses Sony's servers.

Yeah, that (though actually if you use multicast protocols it have no viewer-count overhead, but I suspect Sony routes all streaming through their servers for oversight reasons).

[Flub]

You'd be wrong

Shareplay is peer to peer with PSN for matchmaking the initial connection. The issue is when Sony's built in speed test fails (My local BT connection is obviously having peering issues to Sony tonight) you don't even get to attempt a shareplay connection

[Alex W.]

Damn, I bet on Sony choosing the option that takes less effort but is inconvenient for the user, rather than taking the harder option and screwing it up.