PlayStation 4 Console Thread

[SozzlyJoe]

Wonder if it might come earlier than we thought? Guess they have to get a few games finished first! Man, I am so ready for this.

[Uzi]

They need that guy from the US Sony PS3 ads to run on stage in the middle of MS's conference and announce that the PS4 is officially on sale now and anyone present in the conference can pick up their console from the front desk.

[mushashi]

The PS4 RAM bump caught most devs by surprise, most definitely a last minute change, though if you go to page 1, you'll notice that Yukon only specified 4GB of DDR4 anyway.

[Dandy_Sephy]

They need that guy from the US Sony PS3 ads to run on stage in the middle of MS's conference and announce that the PS4 is officially on sale now and anyone present in the conference can pick up their console from the front desk.

This guy?

As awesome as that could be, somehow I don't think it will happen given Sony's falling out with him.

[Vemsie]

CL final:

[Chooch]

I thought there was meant to be a ps4 ad on during the breaks?

[scottcr]

I'm worried Sony bring in the same consumer hating used game shite that MS have.

[Danster]

Just caught the end of an xBone one...

[Chooch]

Yeah saw that CODDOG one but no PS4

[Cosmic_Guru]

Nope, just collar of duty followed by a pic of the Bone.

[Vemsie]

I think millions of people seeing 'PS4 coming 2013' pop up during the entire match is enough advertising.

Hope Dortmund wins by the way.

[Gamst]

ITV probably forgot to play the advert, they are a bit useless. They just jumped to an advert for a second a minute ago, maybe they realised their error

[GazEFC]

ITV probably forgot to play the advert, they are a bit useless. They just jumped to an advert for a second a minute ago, maybe they realised their error

At least nobody scored this time!

[NecroMorrius]

A lot of the Xbone videos on youtube have PS4 adverts in front of them at the moment

[Nespresso]

Didn't catch the advert during the Champions League. Is it on the tubes?

[Bacon Horsemeat]

Full Time Score in the Champions League Final

[Droo]

I know it's old fashioned, but I want it to ship with a bluray PS4 Demo 1 disk...

I remember seeing this for the first time:

Still hard to beat.

[NecroMorrius]

But not impossible!

[Wickedkitten]

Word on the GAF is that Tesco have got their in store advertising for PS4 ALREADY. Itsshappening.gif etc...

Just went into our local Extra and preorders have started for £20 down

[simms]

Oh dear, there are rumours of used game drm being implemented by Sony across the internets. Sony's silence on the matter speaks volumes.

[Dandy_Sephy]

It's hardly the only thing Sony have been deliberately vague about. Silence doesn't necessarily imply any "guilt".

[Wickedkitten]

So this guy

Said in a video that his sources said that they will.

We'll see at E3

[Prof Frink]

Someone on NeoGAF who's been pretty spot on with sony rumours in the past claim's sony were going to do it but have now put there plan's on hold hope that's true can't see MS doing this and not sony though so will have to wait and see.

[jonnyalpha]

If they both go DRM heavy then I'll just hang onto this gen for a bit longer. Like many of us I have so many games that I haven't played or given proper time to and it seems like a waste.

[Ferine]

There's no way it isn't something Sony's been looking in to — due to publisher pressure if nothing else — but I imagine they've let Microsoft take the hit whilst they evaluate public reaction. Despite a certain element deriding people for 'whinging' about this stuff, I can see the negativity towards Xbox One's potential used game plans influencing whether Sony does the same.

If you fancy a bit of cynical optimism, I'd say it makes sense to launch without restrictions on used games. It would be easy enough to implement such restrictions a year from now if deemed 'necessary', and in the meantime you get to observe a real world test of whether the system ultimately benefits publishers in the first place.

[Vemsie]

We can speculate all we want, but as long as there is no concrete info it remains speculation.

So as for something more concrete, Blow posted a blog post on the PS Blog which contains a developer talk video of The Witness. Game looks rather nice.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/05/23/the-witness-on-ps4-conversations-with-creators/

[routeburn]

If I was at Sony, I'd be tempted to incorporate the necessary internal features in the disc pressing, PS4 internals, and PSN infrastructure, and demonstrate it to publishers. Then, negotiate with them that "for systems stability and scalability" reasons we would like to take a "pragmatic approach" to a "phased deployment" of this technology, rather than taking a riskier all-in-day-1 approach like MS is suggesting.

In non-business-speak, basically launch with all the features in the box, but with just some lightweight additional DRM to please the publishers. Then, phase in additional DRM or used-game controls over time as we see what works with Microsoft's platform and the tools that publishers actually see value and real $ return on.

That way, they could "take the high road" with the consumer and hopefully get some additional market share at launch, but actually end up with a DRM system which fits both publishers and consumers over time.

[Oh Danny Boy]

neither system fits the consumer.

If thats the road gaming is heading down then i'm out

[HarryBizzle]

If they both do it I'll just stick to PC and get a Wii U.

[routeburn]

I think we're kidding ourselves if we think that publishers have not demanded some control over the second-hand games market for this next generation of hardware and online systems. It's a huge market that they're not currently getting a cut of.

Both PS4 and Xbox One will have features related to this. I'd suggest Wii U doesn't have them because it was designed earlier, Nintendo were probably quite resistant to it, and we're actually seeing the result of this (and its currently low market share) with significantly reduced third party support.