PlayStation 4 Console Thread

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Is anyone concerned about the fact the PS4 wont play CDs (regular audio CDs) or SACDs?

I suspect the latter is of little to no importance, but no regular CD's seems like a bit of a WTF Sony moment?!

Preorder canceled.

[NecroMorrius]

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/26/ps4-dev-costs-not-that-much-of-a-leap-up-says-sony-boss/

Rising cost of games, but only a little bit according to Michael Denny.

[Meat]

Is anyone concerned about the fact the PS4 wont play CDs (regular audio CDs) or SACDs?

I suspect the latter is of little to no importance, but no regular CD's seems like a bit of a WTF Sony moment?!

Yeah I was a bit wtf when I saw that, but then I tried to remember when I last put an audio CD in any console and came up with never.

[Looper]

CDs lol. Remember those.

[Larsen B]

No Vib Ribbon HD

[Mr. Gerbik]

Is anyone concerned about the fact the PS4 wont play CDs (regular audio CDs) or SACDs?

I suspect the latter is of little to no importance, but no regular CD's seems like a bit of a WTF Sony moment?!

No LaserDisc support either, just what is Sony thinking

[Uzi]

What, you mean mocked by many on forums and game blogs but a nice little money spinner that is frequently updated and that does it's job?

No, he means "shit".

[Thread Astaire]

It's ok it still plays 45's.

[SeanR]

I want it to look like the Event Horizon gravity drive.

[macosx]

I sounds like nothing's really locked down or finished on the software and services of PS4 except for some PowerPoint slides.

[Dudley]

Yeah it's looking increasingly like a panic reveal in the face of.... what?

[Masu]

Anyone up for some price speculation?

I was thinking £429 here in the UK, but a small voice in the back of my head is whispering "£599". but that would be INSANE.

What were the very first PS3s priced at?

[PaB]

£399. Perhaps £349. They won't go over £400 IMO. PS3 launched at £425.

[Harsin]

$599/£425 and that worked out swimmingly for them.

[squirtle]

If it's anything less than £399 I'll be amazed. That RAM don't come cheap!

[Mr Cochese]

Can Sony really afford to have the more expensive machine for a marginal performance enhancement that likely won't even exist in cross-platform games? The last time I remember a more powerful machine winning in the face of a £100 price gap was the Amiga over the ST - but that actually had twice as many colours, which was obviously quite noticeable in screenshots,

[NecroMorrius]

They're all just PCs now Cochese, so the performance boost will probably be noticeable. Will be interesting to see who blinks first on price and how it translates from $ to £.

[Sng]

Can Sony really afford to have the more expensive machine for a marginal performance enhancement that likely won't even exist in cross-platform games? The last time I remember a more powerful machine winning in the face of a £100 price gap was the Amiga over the ST - but that actually had twice as many colours, which was obviously quite noticeable in screenshots,

PS3 was over £100 more expensive than the 360 and hasn't that sold more than the 360? Or if not then just about to.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Why are people so hung up about sales? As long as it has GAMES. GOOD LOOKING COCK STIFFENING GAMES.

[Camel]

PS4 will look like an old Gateway PC and will only have keyboard and mouse control except for when you're streaming ancient 16 colour PC games over gaikai in which case you'll be forced to use the new Dual Shock and none of the games will work. MS will win because they will give away free text adventures and educational games for children to anyone who subscribes to XBox Live with a Platinum level account. Both consoles will require the use of special glasses all the time and the consoles will switch off if you don't have them on. The glasses will broadcast adverts 24/7.

[Mr Cochese]

PS3 was over £100 more expensive than the 360 and hasn't that sold more than the 360? Or if not then just about to.

It certainly didn't sell better when it was £100 more. I imagine the PS3's late surge has to do with the basic models of both consoles costing £150, but only one of them requiring a monthly subscription to online.

[Sng]

I guess they will have to get the numbers people out of their holes to come up with some figures. They must know from the PS3 launch whether it makes sense taking a smaller hit on less sales for the first 18 months or take a bigger hit on more sales.

I might be Chinese but I can't really grasp those numbers so I'm not too sure myself.

[Mr Cochese]

Sony can score big if they deliver everythiing just perfectly at the right price, but unless they include that insane RAM as a loss leader I think they will struggle to get the average dickhead on the street to perceive that their console is the better value for money.

Maybe they can put GTi on the shell, because punters know that GTi makes stuff go faster without having to have any clue what it actually is or how it works.

[DocG]

PS4 will look like an old Gateway PC and will only have keyboard and mouse control

Clippa pre-order confirmed.

[NecroMorrius]

It certainly didn't sell better when it was £100 more. I imagine the PS3's late surge has to do with the basic models of both consoles costing £150, but only one of them requiring a monthly subscription to online.

PS3 is a bluray player too, which might sway some people?

[rubberducker]

not wishing to derail this thread, but I always though the Atari St sales won the war vs the Amiga?

Does that mean the crapest console always come first?

[Mr Cochese]

PS3 is a bluray player too, which might sway some people?

Yes, definitely that. I'd consider it myself if PS4 wasn't on the horizon.

[Dudley]

not wishing to derail this thread, but I always though the Atari St sales won the war vs the Amiga?

I don't have actual figures but that's never been my perception and certainly all the ST magazines died years before their Amiga equivalents.

[Mr Cochese]

not wishing to derail this thread, but I always though the Atari St sales won the war vs the Amiga?

Does that mean the crapest console always come first?

I can't find a single goddam concrete sales figure for either machine. Bear in mind though that the Amiga had many more models than the Atari machine, including the later 32 bit ones, so a head-to-head ST vs A500 comparison would only tell part of the story. The ST and variants definitely bowed out first in terms of lifespan.

[Pob]

£400 would be acceptable to me but isn't that a bit much if Sony want to avoid repeating the mistakes of last time?

I was amazed to be reminded that the original Xbox cost a 'mere' £299 on release but at the time was seen as massively expensive and quickly dropped to £199. I know that was ages ago now but, you know, tough times and all that. I suppose it faced stiff pricing competition from the amazing-value Cube and a PS2 that had already been knocking about a bit and undergone a price drop.