88h88 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 A projector with screen isn't the same effect though is it. It's better as the entire screen is shit you're supposed to be seeing in full detail rather than the effects shown in that video. The video is a nice idea but if you give me the option of having a TV augmented with a projector halfarsing a picture around the outside or a full on projector set up you'd be clinically insane to pick the first... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Ash Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I would rather have my tv with the effects in my peripheral vision. Must be mental! I think my preference would be to have a smaller area on which to focus, Im just not a fan of massive projector screens for gaming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Steev Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I want to know how its mapping the wall that's actually behind the kinect on show, and where the projector is sitting. The only solution i can think of is that its from above, as if the projector was behind the user he would be casting a shadow on the projected image. It has to be a kinect and projector in one unit that is ceiling mountable to avoid the casting of shadows. You have to place Kinect in your gaming chair then leave the room while he scans your den. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dataDave Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 or .. . Gee, let me think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dataDave Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I would rather have my tv with the effects in my peripheral vision. Must be mental! I think my preference would be to have a smaller area on which to focus, Im just not a fan of massive projector screens for gaming. Why anyone would want residual light polution flying around their room is beyond me, why not just get a disco ball for your living room if you want to emulate falling snow? It's not like text or health bars are going to be legible. Like I said, it's a start, at least. Nothing more. As soon as I see a platformer or even a Worms game which utilises the objects around the room I might get a little more interested. A Lemmings game could be interesting, where you have to find real life objects to direct, block and divert them towards their destination. Also, what happens when the bulb goes? Is it going to be costly to replace? What's the half-life? Anyone arsed about that kind of stuff? If it's anything like a conventional projector they should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Ash Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 What? Text and health bars will be on the main screen. Whether you have a 21 inch tv or a 100 inch projector it's still the same picture on the screen. This is about effects in your peripheral vision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Ash Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Perhaps people aren't seeing the bigger picture. Badoom tish! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstarjez Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Why anyone would want residual light polution flying around their room is beyond me, why not just get a disco ball for your living room if you want to emulate falling snow? It's not like text or health bars are going to be legible. Say that after you have had a joint or two.. Tripping balls.. Seriously though I think this looks great. Even if it baffles me as to how they are going to do this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hub2 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Okay, the idea rocks, as it's a step toward the holodeck tech (which was responsible for far too many diabolical episodes of Star Trek). But come on, this is 2013, the technology just isn't there yet, and what's currently being put about is going to be expensive. Plus, isn't that putting a strain on the the hardware? However, for driving games it could be a true revelation. It doesn't need to be high res, so I doubt it would put that much strain on the hardware. The Wii U can drive two screens after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martingee Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Imagine that with the 180 degree Quake 1 FOV This was what i was thinking. In the vid he's seen playing a few FPS's and on one, the charaters he's shooting, goes off screen into the projection area, so game content is not just restricted to the normal screen, surely this gives a massive advantage to someone with this over someone without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberJohnny Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The reason scott thinks it won't work in his room is because he lives in a non-Euclidian realm. The walls won't stop shifting long enough for it to scan them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88h88 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 This was what i was thinking. In the vid he's seen playing a few FPS's and on one, the charaters he's shooting, goes off screen into the projection area, so game content is not just restricted to the normal screen, surely this gives a massive advantage to someone with this over someone without? The character and item pickup, yeah. I noticed that too. Ripe for a bit of cheat action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberJohnny Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Surely it's no more cheaty than turning the FOV up, or using multiple monitors (or widescreen monitors as I think Battlefield 2 devs claimed back in the day?). I know those aren't things that console gamers have to deal with, but I doubt anyone on PC considers that cheating. An advantage, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcr Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The reason scott thinks it won't work in his room is because he lives in a non-Euclidian realm. The walls won't stop shifting long enough for it to scan them. I need to protect myself from the Hounds of Tyndalos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mullo Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I think its great, would love to give it a whirl. I'd also like the huge screen. One day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Bell Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I love that ad. Guy shooting stuff. Guy shooting stuff. Guy shooting stuff. Girls can play games too. She isn't shooting stuff. Guy shooting stuff. Guy shooting stuff. Guy has lifeless stare. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W. Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Surely it's no more cheaty than turning the FOV up, or using multiple monitors (or widescreen monitors as I think Battlefield 2 devs claimed back in the day?). I know those aren't things that console gamers have to deal with, but I doubt anyone on PC considers that cheating. An advantage, certainly. Surround sound has a similar effect of dramatically widening your field of awareness and nobody complains about that. "Surround vision." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowchivas Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I think it looks nice when it's causing little atmospheric light shows based on the content of your screen but it looks balls when it's actually expanding your screen contents out beyond the confines of your TV. Having said that, it does have amazing potential or creating an atmosphere when playing a game. As others have said, a racing game, with flashes of stadia, crowds, banners, pit lanes, advertising hoardings etc all whizzing past you would be awesome. The same applies to having a massive starfield projected around you if you're playing a space shooter. Imagine giant red lasers whizzing by your peripheral vision as you attempt to outrun a bad guy. Imagine playing MG3, fighting The End and having your room transformed into a tropical jungle canopy; shit, imagine Far Cry 3 doing the same! I think it's got a lot of potential but as others have said, how the actual fuck will it work, how much will it cost and what's the shelf life because they all seem too steep a barrier right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronied Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I want to know how its mapping the wall that's actually behind the kinect on show, and where the projector is sitting. The only solution i can think of is that its from above, as if the projector was behind the user he would be casting a shadow on the projected image. It has to be a kinect and projector in one unit that is ceiling mountable to avoid the casting of shadows. I think if they did include a way to project this at the TV, the only way in which it would make sense would be to stick it in the controller. LED projector tech has progressed a fair bit recently (Link) and add to that something which stabilizes the image to keep it locked to a point (maybe synced with Kinect under the TV) and it should provide something fairly decent. The only problem is that each controller would cost a bomb (no less than the Wii U controller I imagine). Still, that would get around having to set up a projector which for many rooms would be unfeasible. Maybe this is what they were talking about a while back: One very interesting detail revealed in the CVG report is that the new Xbox will feature an ‘innovative’ controller Ignoring subsequent rumours about the 720 controller containing a tablet-like HD screen like the Wii U (which is hardly innovative), having a controller with an in-built projector certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocG Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 New video available on the Verge. Looks... actually pretty damned good. I wonder if this might be more than a novelty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirtle Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Yeah, I'm on board with that. Looks really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcr Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 it's not going to be cheap is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirtle Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I'm expecting Kinect style pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdood Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 OK so that's the first time I've seen anything to do with this tech. Now, it definitely is quite impressive in terms of what is actually possible, I can't help but wonder, what's the point? Who are they selling this to? I do most of my gaming pretty close to the screen though, so perhaps that's why I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epcotman Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 The prototype looks pretty much there! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberJohnny Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 FOV changing comes to consoles (is this for PC too?). Seems a bit laggy though - the rippling and lighting stuff was noticeably a bit behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribblor Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I sit about 12 feet away from my TV, which is mounted on a wall. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. That's assuming the game support was decent. And it wasn't too expensive. Or too large. Though I don't have a coffee table, and I do have a child who would just want to pick it up all the time, so from a practical point of view, I doubt I'd actually get one for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Wiskerando Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 The prototype looks pretty much there! I do all of my gaming 7 feet away from a 32 inch TV. I am buying this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NecroMorrius Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Looks quite nifty, but I don't think it's for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It looks really cool, although my console/display are under a tilted roof so I don't think it'll work for me. Still, something to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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