Nintendo Wii U

[Davros sock drawer]

ZombiU is not atrocious

It's proper shite Scott, come on. If this was on any other console it would be laughed out of the room.

The premise, execution, visuals, and gameplay are all fatally flawed in some way.

[scottcr]

It's really not. That's crazy talk.

[Shimmyhill]

Not really a big Mario fan, although I've got it up for 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy, and I thought this iteration was linear and a retrograde step. The joyously free analogue running we've enjoyed since 64 is gone, and I found it boring.

I'm not saying you are wrong but you're not right

But seriously, we all like different things and for people who don't like Mario there are things such as Knack or just not playing games i guess - makes the world go round and all that!

[Massive Invisible Dog]

ZombiU is brilliant.

[Davros sock drawer]

I mean, I don't want to pick on a particular post, but...

Zombiu has some brilliant ideas wrapped up in some rubbish ones. Use of the gamepad? Brilliant (best showcase for it I've seen)

I'll give you that.

Multiple survivors? Brilliant

Definitely not! It seems like a good idea on paper, but in practice it's terrible. You lose all attachment to your character (because there isn't one main one), and the Prepper talks to each incumbent protagonist about stuff that happened to the last guy as if it happened to you. At its nadir the game game teleports a new Survivor into a locked cage when you die.

London setting? Brilliant.

Maybe if you've never been to London! Basketball courts, Drugstores, and a general sense that the designers saw a book about London, once.

Zombies as an actual, formidable threat? Brilliant.

Funnel zombie into narrow area. Thwack with cricket bat. Repeat x 10 if Zombie is wearing combat armour. Repeat x 1 million throughout entire game. If you die, the guns are randomly scattered throughout the map. Irritating.

Tension and atmosphere? Top notch.

The only tension is that you know that if you die, you'll have even less fun on your next go.

But the melee combat isn't great, and the game relies on it too much in an effort to create tension and make you feel vulnerable; you don't really get to see much of London so it wastes the setting a little bit and it has some borderline unfair difficulty spikes. These are minor quibbles...

More like serious flaws that completely ruin the game.

in what is otherwise a great game deserving of everyone's attention; such a shame the yanks didn't 'get' it, it reviewed poorly stateside and lost all chance of a sequel.

It's a shame in a way, as they might have done better with a sequel, but they only have themselves to blame. Nothing to do with "The Yanks", it's just a poor game.

And whoever decided your character should have greasy smears over their eyes should be sacked.

[Garwoofoo]

3D world is the best game of the last 20+ years.

Really? A year on from release and I'd say it seems pretty forgettable. It's fun enough at the time but there's nothing particularly new or noteworthy in there and it doesn't really have a coherent theme. I'd take Galaxy, 64, NSMBU or even Sunshine over 3D World.

Funnily enough my three favourite games on the Wii U are all non-Nintendo titles: Monster Hunter, Hyrule Warriors and Rayman Legends. But Pikmin 3 runs them very close.

[Uzi]

I've started to be tempted by Hyrule Warriors, but some people are going on about it like it is seriously incredible. What's the depth/ongoing hook of the game? Dynasty Warriors has always looked kinda fun but ultimately shallow and something I'd get bored of soon.

Monster Hunter is amazing though. I would have got it if I didn't play the shit out of Tri on the Wii.

[Super Craig]

I've started to be tempted by Hyrule Warriors, but some people are going on about it like it is seriously incredible. What's the depth/ongoing hook of the game? Dynasty Warriors has always looked kinda fun but ultimately shallow and something I'd get bored of soon.

Monster Hunter is amazing though. I would have got it if I didn't play the shit out of Tri on the Wii.

It is pretty shallow to be fair, but it had me hooked when I played through Legend mode. I still need to go back and start the Adventure mode.

[Garwoofoo]

It is pretty shallow to be fair, but it had me hooked when I played through Legend mode. I still need to go back and start the Adventure mode.

It's the Adventure mode that really holds the ongoing hook for the game. It's a massive grid (several massive grids, if you get the DLC) full of challenges that you have to complete with different characters under different conditions in order to unlock weapons and costumes and to progress through the grid. All the time you're levelling up, creating better weapons and expanding your options. It's quite reminiscent of Monster Hunter in the way in which the moment-by-moment gameplay is quite straightforward button-mashing fun, but it's all about the progress this enables you to make through the game as a whole. I think it's totally brilliant, and I'm not the only one here who feels this way.

[shirubagan]

I though ZombiU was pretty shit to be honest. It starts well but it's terribly paced and extremely badly designed in places. I had a zombie spawn behind me and kill me when I was using a corner for cover. When it crashed after a 60 minute section of play where there were no save points I gave up.

[Barnard]

Really? A year on from release and I'd say it seems pretty forgettable. It's fun enough at the time but there's nothing particularly new or noteworthy in there and it doesn't really have a coherent theme. I'd take Galaxy, 64, NSMBU or even Sunshine over 3D World.

Funnily enough my three favourite games on the Wii U are all non-Nintendo titles: Monster Hunter, Hyrule Warriors and Rayman Legends. But Pikmin 3 runs them very close.

It seems that the more I put into 3D World the better it gets. The letting go of the muscle memory of the previous games, then becoming at one with the wee man is the key. For me it is ageing wonderfully.

There is an element of getting out what you put in. I got all the stars and everything because it grabbed me so much and I think you get a lot more from it doing that.

SNAP!

[Not Thread Owner]

Mario 3D World is great. NSMBU is better. HYRULE WARRIORS is best.

[Janski]

RE: Revelations - Annoyingly awful, broken controls

I've been tempted by this a few times as it's around £10 or so in my local Game.

Tried the demo last night and the aiming seems a little stiff, is that just weak aiming abilities that you can upgrade?

[carlospie]

Zombie u is utter Shite. Easily the worst game I ever played. Long loading, horrible graphics, boring, no save points for hours. I played it once then gave it away

Hyrule, Pikmin and smash are great. As is nsmb, I really disliked 3d world though, it lacked the gasp factor of 64 .

[Davros sock drawer]

Yep. For me it's like what I was unconsciously imagining when I played Mario World in 1992. It's like that game came to life. I suppose it's always going to depend on what you're after but a lot of these wii u games feel like their SNES ancestors re-made using the graphics I never knew I was seeing in my head and that's pretty special for me.

I really liked mario 64 and am playing the galaxies at the moment but I do prefer the slightly more 2d 3d of 3d world if that makes sense.

As someone who sat out the SNES era (MK and Micro Machines multiplayer on friends' consoles aside), and who never really enjoyed 2D platform games, I'd say that's probably true, and a large part of why it left me cold.

I've been tempted by this a few times as it's around £10 or so in my local Game.

Tried the demo last night and the aiming seems a little stiff, is that just weak aiming abilities that you can upgrade?

No, the WiiU version is simply broken.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-resident-evil-revelations-face-off

On the other hand, the Wii U version appears to be visibly less refined in this area, with small but frequent fluctuations in smoothness adding some noticeable stutter to the experience. Furthermore, frame-rates are hit harder when the engine is under load and this has a larger impact on the controls compared to on the 360 and PS3. Aiming and moving around in general feels heavier and less responsive in the Wii U - there appears to a much larger dead-zone that creates a delay between moving the analogue sticks and the action appearing on screen. Comparatively, we had no issues with button presses, so the way the controls have been programmed to the sticks seems to the the issue...

...3DS version offers up a more fluid gameplay experience than the Wii U version - a state of affairs that defies belief.

[mr_woo]

Zombi U is fucking brilliant you fucking bellends. Behave yourselves.

[Not Thread Owner]

I'd probably enjoy it if it didn't shit me up.

[Davros sock drawer]

Zombi U is fucking brilliant you fucking bellends. Behave yourselves.

Maybe if you'd never played any other games.

[Captain Kelsten]

You've just said you skipped the SNES era and don't like 2D platformers, and you liked resident evil 6, so to be honest your opinion is worth about as much as...well, as much as resident evil 6. There's wrong and there's wrong and you, my friend, are all sorts of wrong!

[IR354Lifeqhybot]

I got NSMBu and 3d World last Christmas. I just adored NSMBu, I think it's the finest game of this generation so far, its that good. 3d world, I just cant get as enthralled about. I've started it the for the third time today and got to level 3. It's good, but not near the quality and inventiveness of it's 2d peer. I did enjoy it more tonight,so I shall stick with it. I've had ZombieU since last year but its still in its cellophane. I must give it a whirl seeing the marmite opinions its getting in this thread.

[mr_woo]

Maybe if you'd never played any other games.

The only issue I had with Zombi U is that there could have been more melee weapons/moves incorporated into the game but apart from that I loved the gamepad use, loved the heaviness of the movement/weapons, loved that it actually punished the player and loved the different survivors mechanic. Enjoyed the environments, enjoyed the tension and just had a blast in what a I thought was an extremely creepy, tense game where you had to be very careful, all the time. Fair enough if you didn't like it but I just don't agree with you at all.

[luth714]

Hurrah! Good old Ninty got my new/ repaired WiiU back to me for Christmas Eve!

...bad news is I'm having to update the bloody thing again. It's like 2 years ago all over again.

My son is excited about us trying out Lego Marvel Superheroes.

[Not Thread Owner]

"spending all of Christmas Day updating your new console" is the new "we didn't buy batteries and the shops are shut"

[Davros sock drawer]

You've just said you skipped the SNES era and don't like 2D platformers, and you liked resident evil 6, so to be honest your opinion is worth about as much as...well, as much as resident evil 6. There's wrong and there's wrong and you, my friend, are all sorts of wrong!

Well I didn't skip it by choice, I just only had my Dad's PC to play at the time. So the early 90's for me were Ultima Underworld, Alone in the Dark, Doom etc. whereas a couple of my mates had SNESs or Mega Drives.

At least RE6 had proper zombies in Leon's campaign.

I fear that I am coming across a bit Bah humbug, so just to re-iterate, I do like the WiiU. It's not special in the same way that the Wii was, but Mario Kart 8 is worth the admission fee alone. It's just perfect.

[dreamylittledream]

I've started to be tempted by Hyrule Warriors, but some people are going on about it like it is seriously incredible. What's the depth/ongoing hook of the game? Dynasty Warriors has always looked kinda fun but ultimately shallow and something I'd get bored of soon.

Monster Hunter is amazing though. I would have got it if I didn't play the shit out of Tri on the Wii.

I think the main hook ultimately is Zelda fan service - which is without parallel really - the game is a simple hook really but its so much fun

[partious]

I think 3d world might be my favourite game of all time.

I loved Mario 3 and Mario world when I was a kid (still do) and 3d world feels like a proper modern version of those games. I love how much variety there is in terms of level settings. The music is consistently amazing. The controls are tight and it is just about the most polished game I've ever played(although that could be said about a lot of Nintendo's wii u games)

NSMBU has fun mechanics and is a very good game(which I have completed and collected the coins etc) but in terms of the artwork/music/general charm it is so far behind 3d world and was clearly made by the B team. It has little to none of the charm that 3d world/Captain Toad are brimming with.

They also made the mistake of putting one absolutely lovely stage into the game (the Van Gogh one) that makes the rest of the game's artstyle look completely bland in comparison.

The main theme from NSMBU is my least favourite piece of Nintendo music ever and is reused way too much during the game.

I still like the game though, I just think if he art/music etc had been given the amount of care a proper mario game gets, it could have been a masterpeice

[Jamie John]

I bought Nintendoland entirely impulsively earlier today from Shopto for less than a fiver. Bargain?

[partious]

If you have a few people to play it with? Yes.

If not, also yes

Nintendoland was the first game I had for the wii u back when there really weren't many games. I think it's a great game. Donkey Kong and F-Zero in particular had me hooked for a few weeks.

Nintendoland should have had the option of online play.

I fear that I am coming across a bit Bah humbug, so just to re-iterate, I do like the WiiU. It's not special in the same way that the Wii was, but Mario Kart 8 is worth the admission fee alone. It's just perfect.

For me, I think the wii u is my favourite console ever. It had beaten the previous number 1 (Dreamcast) by the time Mario Kart came out and it just keeps on giving.

I really never liked the wii though. It is the only Nintendo console that I didn't think was "special". I hate waggle and even now I can only think of about 5 wii games worth playing on the wii u. The galaxy games, the two zelda games(which are the least loved console zelda games), xenoblade. Am i missing anything that I should play ?

[Davros sock drawer]

Not really, I just loved waggle.

[sandman]

For me the wiiu has had a terrible year. Part of that disappointment might be down to my copy of mario kart somehow failing to work after a month (and no refund) but it was my daughter was the one who really played it anyway.

Hyrule was awful and confirmed my initial suspicions that it would not be my thing at all. I might get smash at some stage, but it's far too expensive for a game that I know I'll get bored with after an hour or two. Bayo 2 has nothing to offer me, the first wasn't my bag at all.

The only game I've played for a significant amount of time on the console all year was Black Flag.

Still, next year has zelda which I have a strong suspicion could end up being one of my favourite games of all time.