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There are GBA games on the 3DS, but they lock out the whole 3DS OS, don't have save states, etc. as the 3DS, it would appear, isn't up to it.

Must be tough going to 2D from 3D, at a lower resolution, using less memory, and making use of fewer buttons...

I'm hoping the n3DS is though. Advance Wars please.

Oh yes. This. Although I already have an addiction to Fire Emblem to deal with.

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There are GBA games on the 3DS, but they lock out the whole 3DS OS, don't have save states, etc. as the 3DS, it would appear, isn't up to it.

Must be tough going to 2D from 3D, at a lower resolution, using less memory, and making use of fewer buttons...

Meanwhile in Segaland...

(though in fairness, the bit where Sega release pure emulated versions of their MS/GG titles, but not of their MD games, does suggest the 3DS really does struggle to emulate the 16-bit consoles properly, hence Sega producing retooled versions of Mega Drive games instead. Just a bit of a shame that Nintendo aren't willing to make the effort to actually port any of their SNES or GBA games)

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Meanwhile in Segaland...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ngBAXNN220(though in fairness, the bit where Sega release pure emulated versions of their MS/GG titles, but not of their MD games, does suggest the 3DS really does struggle to emulate the 16-bit consoles properly, hence Sega producing retooled versions of Mega Drive games instead. Just a bit of a shame that Nintendo aren't willing to make the effort to actually port any of their SNES or GBA games)

It's a trade off really. Creating a single emulator and making modifications for each game is going to require less resources than porting each game. So you'd just be taking resources away from something else.

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I was looking at a big list of release dates in famitsu in the shop a month or two ago and was surprised to see a listing for wii u gamepads releasing in 2015. My memory is fairly hazy but I think it was the early part of 2015, April/May perhaps.

Didnt think much of it at the time and it probably has nothing to do with this etc. Probably just for replacing broken ones etc. Think the price listed was about 14000 yen...

Edit: Did a quick search on google in Japanese and all i can find are some blogs from 2012 mentioning the planned 14000 price for a seperate wii u gamepad. Maybe nintendo were going to sell them and then didn't/put it back a few years for some reason.. Maybe the thing i read was just wrong. Or maybe it is available seperately somewhere and I just didn't know about it.

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Also, the GBA is 32 bit, not 16.

Ah, you got me. I think we can safely say that despite the extra bits, the machine's power (and therefore the effort of emulating it) is closer to the SNES end of the spectrum than the Playstation though, yeah? [And yeah, technically not all of the Sega Classics were 16-bit converts - most are actually arcade ports, going up to SEGA's Y-Board, i.e. a triple 16/32-bit processor system]

It's a trade off really. Creating a single emulator and making modifications for each game is going to require less resources than porting each game. So you'd just be taking resources away from something else.

Yep, but considering I've not enjoyed any of Nintendo's first-party 3DS output,* I'd much rather they tart up some SNES and GBA classics, personally ;)

*NB - I've not yet tried Kirby Triple Trouble, that's on the Christmas list

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Long time listener to rllmuk, first time caller...

I got my Wii U a few months back. It has single-consoledly reawakened my love for games.

To be honest, I don't care that there aren't that many games for it. I bought it for Nintendo's magic -- that I am not blessed with the opportunity to buy Shooty McShoot-Shoot IV: The Shootening is not exactly something I have lost sleep over. And that is as someone with a 360 pile of shame that towers vertiginously and ominously. But I think I have played on my Wii U more in the last few months than possibly over the last couple of years on the 360.

Each and every one of the Wii U games I have has clearly been made with love -- and not only with an eye on whatever the latest fad is, or whatever financial analysts want to hear. And they keep me coming back. I tend to dip in and out of games -- so in some respects, the immediacy of Nintendo's titles and the pure play they embody are ideal since work and life constrain time available for gaming. Sure, the Mario story has been told over and over again, usually without much addition to rescuing Peach -- but that means when I pick up a game after a week or so where I left off, I am not left trying to remember the latest developments in the plot, or the details of whatever quest I might be on.

Despite that, the depth of gameplay is wondrous. I am currently playing through Super Mario 3D World and each level brings some new delight, some surprise, some piece of cleverness that makes it fresh and exciting and makes me grin like a loon. The polish applied is amazing -- and every piece of the package, the music, the graphics, the response from the controller, are all part of that. I am looking forward massively to Captain Toad as it looks like another slice of that magic, buffed to diamond-like intensity.

Of course, there are still some baffling things about it all -- why have Nintendo not made more of the Virtual Console? why not put GBA games on the 3DS? -- but the sheer number of plus points far outweigh the minuses.

While I'm about it -- this thread is partly responsible for my being a Wii U owner. So thank you, posters of rllmuk. The excitement around these games simply pervades your writing.

TL;DR Hello, rllmuk. I fear I've become a Nintendo fanboy. But I don't care.

Just dug my Wii out of the cupboard with a view to completing Zelda Skyward Sword. And playing through Mario Galaxies. There is something magical about Nintendo games as you say so many great little touches and pick up and play game play. Think I might end up getting a WiiU when the next Zelda makes an appearance. Just hoping I don't get frustrated at the waggle controls of Skyward Sword again as I think this is what stopped me finishing it off last time despite sinking 52+ hours into it.... LOL

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You know those moments when you suddenly remember that Nintendo are actually incredible? Well...

My 10 month old son has been introduced to Mario today. He seemed to like him, but wasn't that bothered. He laughed a lot at the level in 3D world where the Dinosaur goes down the water slide and that was nice. But just now I had a moment that genuinely blew my mind.

So I'm playing while the wife was asleep on the sofa and Harry was watching when suddenly he wandered over to find out what the hell the game pad was. I picked him up, sat him on my lap and started the next level. It was one with loads of rotating platforms. Suddenly I saw a secret area and was just judging how to deal with the platform to access it when a finger popped up on the screen and stopped the platform from turning. I looked down and it was Harry touching the screen making it easier for me.

Now I'm not suggesting he knew why he was doing, but even the idea of a game where a 10 month old baby can genuinely help you out is incredible. And when he's old enough to understand a bit but not actually control the game, having him on my lap helping me out is an option.

Fuck. It really was a fantastic moment and a reminder that this lot know what they're doing.

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Anyone who's holding out on a WiiU and spending their days playing half-finished products, let-downs and remakes needs to have a word with themselves.

Well I'm holding out until the next new full traditional Zelda game gets released.

Something about the WiiU has had me holding off for some reason. Normally I'm all over Nintys consoles when they get released. Still have all of the consoles going back to the NES.

Something hasn't really grabbed me about the U... not yet. Although have played a demo pod many times whilst in places like game and it always brings a smile to my face when messing with it. Just worried that the novelty factor will wear off quickly once I get it home...

Will have to do some more investigation into it and where Ninety are going. Meanwhile I'm dragging my Wii out tonight and firing it up with both some cube titles and trying to figure out where I got to in Zelda SS. :D

One thing that has always been said about Nintendo games is how childish and cartoony they are but from my experience they are some the most innovative and fun games out there. Just very feel good games that transport you to places that are colourful and where you enjoy playing in and are so accessible.

Roll on 2015. Looking forward to see what Nintendo do next. Meanwhile I'll be revisiting some of their back catalogue to remind me of what got me into console gaming in the first place....

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