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I've got every single demo, and MH3U, Pikmin, Mario Kart, Hyrule Warriors, W101, Arkham Origins, Luigi U and about 25 eShop games and 20 VC games (plus all my saves and DLC), and still have 25GB free on my 120GB drive.

Yeah, but that's just 7 actual 'retail' games. How many games do you have on disc? If you had them all on the drive do you think you might need a bit more space? For example, if you now downloaded SSB you'd have just 9GB left - so not even room for one more game. You might just squeeze Toad in, but you'd deffo need a new drive before X/Zelda/Starfox et al hit.

My point more generally is, he can get a smaller drive now and save about a tenner, or get a bigger drive now and never ever have to worry even if he ends up with 20-30 retail downloads on it (which is not that many really if he really is going all digital).

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For a few hours maybe, unfortunately there's nothing beyond the surface. TW101 is closer to Bayonetta than Bayonetta 2.

This is nonsense. Apart from the loss of a couple of arcane techniques, B2 has just as much depth as B1. B2 might feel over-familiar to someone with 100+ hours on B1 but its depth is still virtually bottomless. The W101 doesn't even come close.

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My point more generally is, he can get a smaller drive now and save about a tenner, or get a bigger drive now and never ever have to worry even if he ends up with 20-30 retail downloads on it (which is not that many really if he really is going all digital).

Realistically, he's not going to end up with 20-30 retail downloads on it though is he. You'd struggle to do that even if you happened to like every single type of game going, and/or be willing to pay the premium to try. 10-15 would be more realistic, and even that's being optimistic. That being the case, better to save a tenner to put towards a game rather than have paid it for some useless space seeing as you can't share the drive for other use.

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That link is going to the wrong bundle now - this is the stonking £199 one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00P68FY0M

EDIT: Note it's now out of stock by the look of it - saying they expect more on Dec 5....

Boom! Been looking at WiiU offers for a while now - including used. This deal seems amazing. Contains all of the games I wanted....ordered!

Always loved nintendo. Even though I work for their biggest competitor I'm going nintendo all the way for my 4 year olds first console experience.

Just need to get one of those steering wheel attachments :)

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hmmmmm... will I need extra storage space to install of the games that it comes with, or should I be alright with 8gb for a while?

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Is there anything good available for the U that isn't just old stuff recycled?

HYRULE WARRIORS

hmmmmm... will I need extra storage space to install of the games that it comes with, or should I be alright with 8gb for a while?

None of the games need installing. Unless they're download codes, in which case you won't have enough for any of them.

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This is nonsense. Apart from the loss of a couple of arcane techniques, B2 has just as much depth as B1. B2 might feel over-familiar to someone with 100+ hours on B1 but its depth is still virtually bottomless. The W101 doesn't even come close.

I'm sorry, but it certainly is not nonsense. There is very little balance to the overall game system, mostly at fault due to the need to balance things around Umbran Climax. I already broke that down, and many other things, over on the B2 thread. I'm free to discuss things over there if you'd like to go into detail.

The game was designed to be as bombastic as possible on the presentation layer without offering much further beyond that. It saddens me that it's another DMC4 case in many aspects, lacking the finer touches that made the original transcend the genre's boundaries.

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Realistically, he's not going to end up with 20-30 retail downloads on it though is he. You'd struggle to do that even if you happened to like every single type of game going, and/or be willing to pay the premium to try. 10-15 would be more realistic, and even that's being optimistic.

10-15 games over the life of the console? Really? He said he was going to go 'mostly digital' and I could easily list 10 pretty much essential Wii U exclusive games right now - without what's coming up over the remaining years of it's life or considering a single multi-platform title:

  1. Mario 3D World
  2. Bayonetta 2
  3. Wonderful 101
  4. Pikmin 3
  5. Wind Waker: HD
  6. Hyrule Warriors
  7. Mario Kart 8
  8. Lego City Undercover
  9. SSB
  10. ZombiU
  11. Nintendoland
  12. MH3U

Then add Captain Toad, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Zelda, Starfox...

Honestly, who on a gaming forum owns a console for more than about 12 months and doesn't own more than 10 games for it?

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Loads I imagine, especially those with current gen consoles.

I currently have 4 games on the 3DS, had it for over a year now. And two of those games are DS ones. When I first bought the 360 I only had 3 games for over a year, and they were launch titles.

Only reason why I have loads of PS3 games now is because I bought it late in its cycle and am playing catch up, meaning I can buy loads of games cheap.

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10-15 games over the life of the console? Really? He said he was going to go 'mostly digital' and I could easily list 10 pretty much essential Wii U exclusive games right now - without what's coming up over the remaining years of it's life or considering a single multi-platform title:

You've listed some games that if you happened to like every game genre going might be regarded as essential, which I covered. I'm not saying it doesn't have that many good games it's more that half the games on your list are pretty divisive, and lets be honest the "remaining years of it's life" is a bit of a joke. Bearing that in mind, I don't see what's unrealistic about the 10-15 estimate really and as I said, 20-30 retail downloads just isn't going to happen.

I've owned the Wii U for almost a year and I don't own more than ten retail games for it because there are so few releases in general that for me there aren't any more that I want to own. The relatively tiny library makes it unfair to compare with what purchase patterns you might have on other consoles. It's a really good machine, but there's no need to be silly about it.

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I phoned Nintendo on Saturday chasing up my Wii U which has gone into repair - they asked the date I'd sent it, then said it wouldn't have been affected by the fire, but things are understandably taking 3-4 weeks longer to sort.

Then I got an email today to say my console went up in smoke at the fire. :(

I'll get a new machine and £30 of eshop credit apparently but until I speak to them I've no idea where I stand regarding my gamer profile, the games downloaded to my machine or all the Wii software that I transferred over. Certainly more than £30 of software amongst that...hopefully my Wii saves were safe as I think I backed them up to the sd card, but I've probably lost my Wii U saves as the machine wouldn't let me back up some data to a USB stick before I sent it back.

Does anyone else have any experience regarding a replacement machine?

Ironically, this has got around the whole who-should-be-liable-for-my-knackered-machine issue I was having with HMV.

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I think my wife has got me a Wii u for my birthday. Having previously had one can I recover my nnid onto this one?

I might be wrong, but I think you'd need your previous Wii U, and to do a system transfer from it to your new console, to use the old NNID on a new machine. Please correct me someone if this isn't the case!
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