Nintendo Wii U

[JPickford]

[utopastac]

So, is that Karoke rental game out yet? Seems like a brilliant idea to pay a fiver for a night.

It is! It's actually pretty good. The library is massive. The interface is a bit odd though, it's like they've deliberately tried to make it look like a terrible Karaoke machine.

why is that my posts are being negged? None of y'all are bothered, right?

I'm negging them because they are terrible posts. Really boring attempts at being antagonistic for...no reason?

[Darren]

I can think of more games announced as coming to the Wii U that I'm looking forward to right now than for the PS4 and Xbox One. That's pretty much all that matters to me.

(Of course, I can think of more coming to the Xbox 360 than the Wii U too, which supports my view that the whole next gen might be a bit fucked. But that's a conversation for a different thread.)

Yes, I can't helping thinking that In These Times Of Austerity^TM probably isn't the ideal time to be launching expensive, purely luxury items. It may be that all three next gen consoles end up underselling compared to the last gen and their expectations. The Wii U may just be the canary in the coalmine.

[Smitty]

I'm negging them because they are terrible posts. Really boring attempts at being antagonistic for...no reason?

You think i'm commenting on the problem for 'no reason'?

[Stolly]

Really, there's no substance to it? Have you seen the flavour of the responses from the totally delusional Wii-U crowd in the 'Problem with Nintendo' thread? You could use images of them in the dictionary entry for denial.

As for expanding on my point - why? Why should I? Many people have written thousands upon thousands of words about the subject. I could as well but why bother when it can be summarised as the above? I think it's fairly obvious what my point is. I was responding to Timdp's post and indeed all of the stories of a similar slant that float around the platform.

I am actually shocked by just how much of a pickle the console finds itself in. Having the 10 people who actually own a WiiU on Rllmuk religiously neg anything that dares to talk honestly about that situation or about the problems with the platform isn't going to help their camp.

Case in point Jack: if everyone is fine with the the state of the WiiU, is not in denial and is 'ok' with it's relative failure, why is that my posts are being negged? None of y'all are bothered, right?

I'm definitely no fan of the wii u but I think this thread should be left to wii u owners to enjoy their wii u's and games and not put up with negativity. The trouble with Nintendo thread is surely the best place for that?

[Smitty]

I'm definitely no fan of the wii u but I think this thread should be left to wii u owners to enjoy their wii u's and games and not put up with negativity. The trouble with Nintendo thread is surely the best place for that?

Um, no?

[MaffewE]

Yes, I can't helping thinking that In These Times Of Austerity^TM probably isn't the ideal time to be launching expensive, purely luxury items. It may be that all three next gen consoles end up underselling compared to the last gen and their expectations. The Wii U may just be the canary in the coalmine.

Pretty much that, yes. It needs some big exclusives that offer something different fairly quickly, in each case. If I want to buy Destiny, Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed 4, Need for Speed, FIFA and the like, I've got boxes sitting under my television right now that can do that. Worse graphics sure, but they're there. There's a couple for each that interest me, but there need to be more.

Like I said, there's about six or seven exclusive games coming to Wii U I like the look of, and the other two next gen machines need to match that before there'll be any interest from me.

Anyway. Different thread, not this one. Back to the Wii U, folks! (If that's possible)

[mushashi]

Yes, I can't helping thinking that In These Times Of Austerity^TM probably isn't the ideal time to be launching expensive, purely luxury items. It may be that all three next gen consoles end up underselling compared to the last gen and their expectations. The Wii U may just be the canary in the coalmine.

Didn't seem to have much effect on the Japanese games market post-1990, the best ever selling home console and handheld were both released post slowdown (they have hardly managed to get out of their multi-decade long funk too), or Apple.

[SozzlyJoe]

The Vita is doing badly too but the PS Vita thread is lovely. I think Wii U owners deserve a similar safe haven! This is their happy place. Don't spoil it.

[NEG]

Imagine if Wii U had a direct sequel. The Wii P

The Wii Peeeeeee

[MaffewE]

Um, no?

Your other main argumentative tactic is short pithy responses (like this one), leaving them open for other people to write long annoyed rebuttal posts in reply. This then leaves you free to say the replies are irrelevant to what you mean (which you didn't state, of course), that you're free to post where ever you want (even if you're posting because of how people are behaving in an entirely different thread), and generally to insult and belittle.

It's fun to watch. At least it was the first few times. Now that it seems to happen pretty much on a weekly basis, across the entire forum.. not so much.

[Smitty]

If you have an issue with how people are behaving and what they're posting in a different thread, why didn't you complain in that one? It'd make SLIGHTLY more sense than popping up in here and shouting 'FUCKED CONSOLE IS FUCKED'.

I don't know what you're talking about here. Nothing i've posted has anything to do with other threads.

I mean, by your own admission, it's been discussed repeatedly, at length, and by many, many people in much greater detail than that. It's been covered. What benefit does posting that actually have? Indeed, what do YOU get out of it, other than getting to go on another 'poor me, look, I have negative votes again' crusade?

It's just a post, guy. It was a short comment. In terms of it having 'been covered', I hadn't realised that there was some sort of statute of limitations on how long certain issues could be commented on?

Timdp's post just reminded me of just how bad things are for the platform. I commented on that. Is there a problem?

[scottcr]

has anyone managed to get the Wii Karaoke thing work well just using the gamepad? I thought you could hold the gamepad vertically while singing for words? Or am I imagining things?

[MaffewE]

I don't know what you're talking about here. Nothing i've posted has anything to do with other threads.

Really, there's no substance to it? Have you seen the flavour of the responses from the totally delusional Wii-U crowd in the 'Problem with Nintendo' thread? You could use images of them in the dictionary entry for denial.

[NEG]

Not worth playing with the troll, Maffew. Keeps it fed.

[Smitty]

Your other main argumentative tactic is short pithy responses (like this one), leaving them open for other people to write long annoyed rebuttal posts in reply. This then leaves you free to say the replies are irrelevant to what you mean (which you didn't state, of course), that you're free to post where ever you want (even if you're posting because of how people are behaving in an entirely different thread), and generally to insult and belittle.

It's fun to watch. At least it was the first few times. Now that it seems to happen pretty much on a weekly basis, across the entire forum.. not so much.

Short and pithy? Look, it wasn't designed to be anything but a simple statement: no. No I do not agree that this thread should be a 'haven' from 'negative' comments about the Wii U. How much does one need to write in answer to a yes/no question?

I'm not sure how giving a yes/no answer to such a question is evidence of 'tactic' on my behalf. You're grasping at straws. He asked me a question and I responded.

[scottcr]

maybe some of us know that it's not selling well but it's not stopping us actually enjoying the games on the thing...

how many of us have run out of negs for the day??

[MaffewE]

It's just a post, guy. It was a short comment. In terms of it having 'been covered', I hadn't realised that there was some sort of statute of limitations on how long certain issues could be commented on?

I didn't say there was a statute of limitations on anything. My own personal opinion is that if there's something new that can be brought to a debate, or if a comment adds something to a conversation, then anything can be dragged up from any time and discussed again.

'Fucked console is fucked' adds nothing, in any way whatsoever. It is the definition of a pointless post.

Aaaanyway. You have your views, I have mine, and in a reasonable attempt to get this discussion back on course, I shall hereby leave the 'Smitty's post' debate.

*shakes hands, moves on*

[NEG]

I'd fuck my Mega Drive if I could.

[SMD]

Well I'm looking forward to picking up Wonderful 101 and Super Mario 3D World.

[Smitty]

I don't know what you're talking about here. Nothing i've posted has anything to do with other threads.

>Really, there's no substance to it? Have you seen the flavour of the responses from the totally delusional Wii-U crowd in the 'Problem with Nintendo' thread? You could use images of them in the dictionary entry for denial.

That was just an example. You can indeed read the same kind of comments in this thread too. That thread is just more prominent in my mind because it's focused on criticism of Nintendo/WiiU.

The subject of my post was not the activities of other threads, whether I happened to mention them or not.

[MaffewE]

Well I'm looking forward to picking up Wonderful 101 and Super Mario 3D World.

I have more preordered for my Wii U than for my 360 / PS3.

Though this is more on the account of Nintendo games not dropping in price anywhere near as quickly as the other consoles games do.

[Smitty]

'Fucked console is fucked' adds nothing, in any way whatsoever. It is the definition of a pointless post.

How convenient it is that you find a post that you dislike 'pointless', with a definition of pointless being offered by yourself in a matter-of-fact manner which rather helpfully renders the post indefensible.

It is a comment, it has a point. It is neither required to offer new information, nor to entertain or to be pleasing to whatever prejudices you hold - as with everyone else's comments, including your own.

Notice that I won't be defining your posts as pointless.

[Darren]

I've now got the the point where I'm third in line to play on the Wii U. So my progress in Pikmin and Wonderful 101 is stalled because my bloody kids darling offspring won't let me near the thing. We've got two separate Wind Waker plays on the go for a start.

(To be fair it was their joint birthday present so technically they do have first dibs).

[MaffewE]

My wife wanted to play along with New Super Mario Brothers Wii U Tablet Too Many Words In Title Edition. She tried it in two player with me. As with all other platform games, she died a few times and remembered she was rubbish at them, and that was the end of that. Ah well.

She likes Pikmin 3, though. Not so much Wonderful 101.

"What the fuck?" was pretty much all she said there...

[scottcr]

I tried to have two Wind Wakers on the go...

but then realised it's actually impossible for me to call my character in a Zelda game anything other than Link... and that would have confused the hell out of my son, so, we've gone with one.

My wife wanted to play along with New Super Mario Brothers Wii U Tablet Too Many Words In Title Edition. She tried it in two player with me. As with all other platform games, she died a few times and remembered she was rubbish at them, and that was the end of that. Ah well.

She likes Pikmin 3, though. Not so much Wonderful 101.

"What the fuck?" was pretty much all she said there...

She'll probably get on better with Rayman Legends... the gamepad multiplayer stuff in that is really well done.

[mdn2]

After much bitching about Nintendo and their issues with the WiiU, I was bought one as a surprise gift by my partner when Pikmin 3 was released. Gotta say, it is a lovely piece of kit. And now, between Pikmin, Wind Waker HD, Wonderful 101, NSMBU/NSLU, Monster Hunter 3 and Lego City, I've hardly touched my 360.

And to those who refuse to give NSMBU a chance based on the earlier iterations: it truly is the best 2D Mario game since SMW.

[Nobuo's Organ]

It's succinct. I know the Wii U owners here are in denial about the state of the platform, but that's not really my problem.

It is your problem if they don't perceive the state of the platform using the same criteria as you.

You just completely ignored the point made in a response to you to quote 'The platform isn't in a "state"' out of context as proof of your statement that Wii U owners here are in denial. I could write a similar post about the use of "state" and "denial" in your post to try to explain to you what I personally think, relate it back to what you're claiming here and try to point out where the gap in our thought process is... but what's the point?

This is exactly the sort of thing that makes people neg you in threads you get involved in, instead of bothering to respond.

[scottcr]

I think you'll struggle to find a WiiU owner who isn't happy with their purchase....

and of course, I've left that sentence open for a classic 'fixed' reply.

[NEG]

I wasn't happy waiting 6-8 bloody months to play anything worthwhile.