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NEG, seriously?

For a moment, that was quite an interesting discussion and point raised by Rain Birds (which you did acknowledge in his reply, admittedly) but to 'Pffft' my point because that's not what you were like is a little bit daft. I was and will be much of the same mindset as you made out but it's an undeniable fact that a lot of people that would be a games target audience will not play said game if it's in bright colours.

No one that has missed 'blue sky gaming' from the console days is in that age range, we only miss it cos we're old and enjoyed those 'gamey' games at the time.

I wonder if there is a generation below mine (and a lot of the forum) that will miss those days of everything being brown in a few more years?

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My pfft wasn't to be taken seriously and certainly wasn't aimed at you necessarily, I didn't discredit your comment or anything like that. I stated myself as myself, indeed. I can therefore pfft at the kids today thinking a certain way all day long, or something along those lines.

Just imagine me in a top hat and sipping fine wine when pfft'ing. Modern shooters ruin the smell of my lawn.

Also, ::sips wine:: I'd say you underestimate bright colours and generally good gamey taste as a seller.

You've reminded me to buy some cheddar.

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If Nintendo made a rival to COD and Battlefield, it would be with paintball guns. To win you'd have to splash the most colour over your opponents and/or the map.

It would probably be the Wii U's system seller if they actually bothered to do it.

Call of Duty isn't a system seller for the 4 - 10 age range that still hasn't been utterly corrupted by tablets. Minecraft is.

Nintendo rip off Minecraft, twin with Nintendo IP, use the tablet properly and licencetoprintmoney.gif.

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I was browsing in Game yesterday and somehow caved and bought the Wii U version of Rayman Legends. I don't know why as I have a big enough pile of shame as it is, including unplayed Vita and 360 versions of Rayman Origins. The sad but unsurprising thing is though that the guy serving me had to go out the back for it rather than grabbing it from behind the counter because due to space constraints "that's where they keep the smaller formats".

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Popped in to Tesco Yate for some BBQ bits, but had a quick browse in the electronics section.

Sonic Allstars Racing, Batman and Mario U were all £10. Mario had sold out, but stocks in the other titles were still quite good.

It's great to see such good bargains, but rather worrying at the same time.

Lego City was still priced at £42, and as I had Sonic and Mario (and don't much care for the Batman games) I ended up buying Paper Mario for the Wii for £10 instead. No doubt that'll end up on my pile of shame for 6 months before it gets opened.

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Weirdly, after not stocking anything since launch, my local Asda has had the Pro Controller & some sort of accessory case over the last week. I picked up the controller today (it was £20) but it seems odd that they'd suddenly bring it in, even if it is fire-sale stuff. The store has carried nothing else at all, ever; no consoles, no games, no accessories.

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Have any of you got or tried the Wii U version of Need for Speed? It's currently £23 on amazon, which is a lot cheaper than it normally goes for (I think).

It's very good, and definitely the best console version visually / performance-wise. On the downside, there's no DLC support (the first pack is included with the Wii U version). I really like it and would definitely bite at £23. I paid full-price & EA's subsequent abandonment of the console left me a bit resentful about that, but it's a good game, and one that Criterion really showed up a lot of other third-party Wii U developers with.

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It's very good, and definitely the best console version visually / performance-wise. On the downside, there's no DLC support (the first pack is included with the Wii U version). I really like it and would definitely bite at £23. I paid full-price & EA's subsequent abandonment of the console left me a bit resentful about that, but it's a good game, and one that Criterion really showed up a lot of other third-party Wii U developers with.

Well that's reassuring because I already bought it. As a Criterion fan I would have bought this in one form or another eventually, but it's nice to know I'll be getting the best version available (bar the DLC).

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his could actually turn out to be a very interesting christmas. Having said that and although it's anecdotal, I was surprised to hear about a nephew and his chums who are all 11 / 12 are all going to ask for (or are getting) the PS4 this Xmas. Personally I didn't think a £350 console was that viable for an 11 year old but I suppose it probably is these days, especially as the 'one gift from everyone in the family' thing.

I do find it surprising when I watch TV and see some item about consoles and the age of the people playing them, what's the point of legally enforceable age ratings on shooters when a sizable portion of the playerbase is very clearly underage, the parents obviously do not give 2 fucks what violence their children consume in terms of games, unlike I would suspect equally rated film product. Not too surprising that some kids would want to own the latest Sony or Microsoft console if the sorts of games they are playing these days are a big thing there.

Considering the 2 games Nintendo have decided to do Wii U bundles for, it would seem they prefer to skew younger, the NPD sales would correlate with that observation, more young child friendly games are the stuff which is moving decent numbers on the system, while the older skewing games underperform.

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Boys maybe at a push, my daughters are just mario mad and the 13 year old is at the age that she is good enough at it to start finding the depth within the games. We have ps3, 360 as well as a wii and wii u and the wii u rules the roost here by a country mile!

Boys maybe at a push, my daughters are just mario mad and the 13 year old is at the age that she is good enough at it to start finding the depth within the games. We have ps3, 360 as well as a wii and wii u and the wii u rules the roost here by a country mile!

It's, as usual, all about the quality of the games. Right now she is playing NSMBU and has spent hours today playing ACNL. She has also put a good hour into Sims 3 on PS3 and 15 minutes into Temple Run on iPad.

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Perfect example last night why people crying for the tablet to be dropped from the Wii-U are missing the point. The tablet is the key differentiating factor.

My three kids and 2 others over to play. Firstly, they play Super Mario U together. The youngest can help on the gamepad, while the older kids play. Then the four older kids decide they want to play Minecraft. So Minecraft goes on, on the 360, while the youngest plays Disney Planes on the gamepad. Seamless, trouble free. Asymmetric play and offTV play in action and working beautifully. Previous nights with the 5 kids have involved, invariably, one of them tying up the tablet or PC and protracted arguments over who gets the TV and which game to play. This time, utterly hassle free.

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