Nintendo Wii U

[Super Craig]

... When released so sparingly and for too much money. Learn to fucking read.

I can read perfectly well, thanks. Your post was fucking stupid, to be blunt.

Nintendo want to drip feed the games to maximise the sales potential of each release. Personally, I'd rather they just let me upgrade my existing Wii collection as soon as the service is officially launched. But I accept that it's not going to happen. It's not the end of the world. I've got plenty of other stuff to play as it is.

[Petrousgyre]

I'm not joking.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wiiu/en_na/system_transfer_faq.jsp

Not sure how that's directly relevant. Your eShop and saves are tied to a machine ID. If I send my broken WiiU to Nintendo they'll presumably fix my machine - the machine ID should persist so when I plug my external drive to my fixed WiiU I should be fine, no?

[SMD]

Not sure how that's directly relevant. Your eShop and saves are tied to a machine ID. If I send my broken WiiU to Nintendo they'll presumably fix my machine - the machine ID should persist so when I plug my external drive to my fixed WiiU I should be fine, no?

Oh I meant if they sent you back a new one. Yeah if they fix it it should be fine, I just thought you meant you were backing it up in case they sent you back a new console.

[NecroMorrius]

8798 units sold in Japan last week, worst week on record, down 1000 from last week. That's half as many as the Vita and only 1k more than the PSP.

On the bright side for Nintendo the 3DS is doing gangbusters and stomping everything else with 75k across the two sizes.

[Petrousgyre]

Oh I meant if they sent you back a new one. Yeah if they fix it it should be fine, I just thought you meant you were backing it up in case they sent you back a new console.

Xevious got sent back his original console (I assume) but they helpfully wiped his built-in storage.

[Not Thread Owner]

Update yet?

[sweetdaddyg]

Update yet?

word on the street is tomorrow

[rgraves]

First Rayman Challenge Demo footage:

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

I can read perfectly well, thanks. Your post was fucking stupid, to be blunt.

Nintendo want to drip feed the games to maximise the sales potential of each release. Personally, I'd rather they just let me upgrade my existing Wii collection as soon as the service is officially launched. But I accept that it's not going to happen. It's not the end of the world. I've got plenty of other stuff to play as it is.

I don't really see what's stupid about saying that a VC service with drip feeding of games against hugely inflated prices when there are so many alternatives is useless, but I assume it's just your clumsy way of trying to justify sucking Nintendo's corporate cock.

[Massive Invisible Dog]

You guys take discussions about the appropriate way to release old games far too seriously.

[Not Thread Owner]

I don't really see what's stupid about saying that a VC service with drip feeding of games against hugely inflated prices when there are so many alternatives is useless, but I assume it's just your clumsy way of trying to justify sucking Nintendo's corporate cock.

The only alternative ways of playing old games are 1) buy the original games or 2) break the law.

So either deal with the drip feed, buy the original games, or break the law.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

The only alternative ways of playing old games are 1) buy the original games or 2) break the law.

So either deal with the drip feed, buy the original games, or break the law.

Exactly. So instead of Nintendo making good money from an amazing back catalogue, people look elsewhere. Breaking the law sounds very dramatic, but I assure you most people don't give a fuck. Opportunity missed. The idea mentioned earlier, some kind of subscription system giving you full access to the Nintendo back catalogue for a modest monthly fee would surely rake in the money. It seems so obvious.

[Massive Invisible Dog]

It's pretty clear the drip feed of existing games isn't a very good way of releasing them. I argued for it back when they started doing it for the Wii, thinking that having a smaller number of games released on a regular basis would be a nice way of giving those games some focus so that lesser known titles don't get overlooked in favour of the bigger ones. Almost a book club type thing where everyone is playing the same thing at the same time. Then they fucked it up and drip fed games far, far too slowly and with little promotion or fanfare outside the really big releases.

There's definitely merit in giving titles focus each week, but I don't think releasing them slowly over time is the way to do it. Dump as many as possible in one go, have regular sales, use Miiverse smartly to promote them. Sell the games individually and have some sort of subscription system. Seems easy, doesn't it?

[NEG]

Registering eShop bought titles = 50 stars, pish. (Runner 2!)

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Problem with the dripfeeding is that it is completely contra-productive when you consider how retro gaming is normally done, at least not for me. For me, retro gaming is all about being triggered by a memory or forum post or Youtube video or something that reminds me of some old favourite I used to play. Then I think 'that was good, I should play that again!' and go actively hunting for it. The VC would be an amazing, hassle free go-to point for that if it actually had a complete library, good intuitive frontend and decent pricing. As it is, there's an awful lot missing and what's there is about 4 times more expensive than I'd be willing to pay. Hence no sale.

[Massive Invisible Dog]

Remember how exciting the idea of a virtual console was when they first announced it? I'm pretty sure there was nothing else around remotely like it, certainly not for console games.

It's still an amazing idea, Nintendo just don't seem to capable of putting it into practice. Which is a shame, because their past consoles are the ones with most of the good old console games, obviously.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Even weirder when you think that these old games are basically free money for Nintendo. You can't buy them in stores anymore. The development costs have been recouped decades ago. Every single penny they make on it is pure, unadulterated profit. Why not offer them for free as driver to sell hardware? Why not sell them for a pound each, knowing it'll be the ultimate impulse buy? Why not give old games in a franchise away as preorder bonus with new games in the same franchise? Do they really think people are lining up to buy them for a fiver each? Maybe for Super Mario Bros 3 / World and Link to the Past, but beyond that?

[sweetdaddyg]

I hope they do like they have in the states and allow you to use club nintendo points to buy vc titles

[SMD]

It doesn't need to be any of that. Just put them up as quick as you can do whatever black magic Nintendo must do before selling Super Mario Brothers again, then in the run up (say the 3/4 weeks prior) to a big release, promote the hell out of the previous titles and put them on sale.

I'm not going to put off buying the next Mario Kart cos they've stuck all the other ones up on there. We're gamers, we're extremely fickle and we'll buy it or replay the old games to get hyped for the latest one.

Put a little effort into your big titles, have online scoreboards for stuff like Super Mario Kart trials or figure out online for them. You're really not cutting into sales of the new games, if anything you'll grab the people who fell out of love with the series because they've been playing whatever their favourite version is online and got them thinking 'oh what the hell'.

But they won't.

[Xevious]

So I spent the last few nights pulling the power in and out of my WiiU - tried all sorts of stuff, there was something online about leaving the power brick unplugged from the mains for ten hours so it can reset which sounds like nonsense and of course didn't work. Must have tried a good 30-40 times but nothing. Nada. Just about to put him back in his box, decided to try one last time and miraculously it came back to life! Managed to copy all my saves and eShop stuff onto an external, my ZombiU save included - delightful stuff.

Tried to switch it on this morning and it's back to flashing red.

Really pleased to hear it! Have you contacted Nintendo to arrange a repair?

[gone fishin]

Problem with the dripfeeding is that it is completely contra-productive

Contra? Where?!?!? Is it being released on VC?????!?!

I loved Contra.. well, Gryzor as it was known round here.

[NEG]

So I figured I'd finally try the Wii mode out and the picture for the games themselves are not full screen. At a blind guess, plugging back in Wii's component cable would fix that? It's not 'too' bad and certainly perfectly clear (tried out Sonic 1, Mega Man) but yeah.

Then put in BIT.TRIP Complete, and that's not full screen either!....and it seems my save is gone, why? (aka the high scores for each game) Didn't the pikmin transfer those? (and yet, it did save the states for VC stuff).

I checked the Wii memory itself (on the Wii U) and all the various saves for my Wii titles are there.

...I kind of dread putting in either Mario Galaxy and seeing the 242 files gone.

...Or Zelda. Oh man.

[scottcr]

you did a transfer yes? AFAIK - if your save is there it should transfer it.

[NEG]

Well for BTC it didn't.

[SMD]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130425e.pdf

For Wii U, Japan:

TW101 - Summer

Wii Fit U - Summer

Wii Party (temp.) - Summer

Pikmin - July 13

WWHD - Fall

Rayman - 2013

All others TBD. They list Mario Kart and 3D Mario. FE X SMT & Monolith game listed for US/EU.

Also, Layton 6 being published 2014 in the US, 2013 Europe.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=55339024&postcount=21

[SMD]

Zelda's coming out here...before Japan?

Miiverse is up now on PC: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/

[bobontheway]

Wooohooo, I'm glad to see that Miiverse has finally appeared on the actual interweb.

I don't know why but I was surprised at just how low res the Miiverse drawings are.
This is my highest complimented picture on the thing, it's about The Cave...


As you can see, I'm not a brilliant artist

Some other folks do things with that tiny amount of pixels that I just don't understand...

[joffocakes]

Oooh, amazing. Here's a a couple of mine:

No idea how people do things like this, though:

[Not Thread Owner]

Mine are all shit

[sweetdaddyg]

Could this be the message on the mother 2 board that finally swung it? No...but I did my bit and actually tried writing something in japanese!