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Dragging this topic back online, I'm pretty impressed by my Wii U as an upgrade to the Wii. NintendoLand is a great game, Mario Bros is great at what it does, ZombiU is OK as a launch title, but the same question is being asked for every Nintendo launch since the N64 (mario 64 aside). Where is the flow of great and unique software?

The same point applies as it has done at almost every Nintendo launch. It aint there now, but it will be when push comes to shove. Come christmas, when the annual Neck Stabber and Face Shooter franchises pop up, Nintendo will have something compelling and different to go with. They really don't give that much of a toss about early adopters, they never have done. We're not their market, and haven't been since the N64, when they botched up big time. Now they launch early, let the fanboys buy and pay through the nose for the "launch window", which now seems to be 9 months, then hit the mass market with great titles when they are looking to buy, which isn't in April.

It's been the same every Nintendo launch. I got one mega cheap with a damaged case, and it's great. Plays my Wii games, plus the kids and I have a great time with NintendoLand and Mario. They think it's the best thing since sliced bread, and they are a hefty chunk of the market Ninty is looking at.

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There are some things that are brilliant about the Wii U (I love the Google Street thing, really clever) but there are also some things that are incredibly annoying.

The fact that it takes fucking ages to go into Wii mode. And I don't want to hear excuses like "yeah, but the menu stuff is really slow on the PS3 or 360". Switching between the original Wii (nice fast boot up- apart from that stupid health and safety warning) to the Wii U is a horrific experience when it comes to load times. Remember the big song and dance about when the GameCube came out- how Nintendo wanted the experience to be the same as carts (little loading time). Well it's like they've completely forgotten about that one. So it's now going to take around a minute to go into Wii mode.. before you can even boot anything up. I thought the Wii U was supposed to be a step forward?

The fact that Wii mode, through HDMI, looks fucking terrible. Really, really terrible. It's like going back to scart. So the backwards compatibility is just completely useless- I'll just keep the Wii next to the Wii U (never mind the fucking stupid design of managing saved games. Wouldn't it have been really great if they actually realised that people may keep the original Wii for use in another room. Wouldn't it be fab if you could play your copy of Donkey Country Returns on the Wii, then play it the next day on the Wii U and the two devices could use the magic of the network to tell update each others save game? Wouldn't it be great if they add a Wii Channel that could do that??? Yeah.. instead, you have to the stupid saved game transfer thing from the SD card. You can't even use saved games direct from the SD...

The fact that the gamepad constantly stays on. Constantly. Using Netflix, it stays on. Even if I'm not using it. So it's just draining the battery while I'm watching a film. Why? WHY?!?!?

The console design itself just seems really lazy. The Wii seemed like a great design ("it had to be no bigger than 4 DVD cases stacked on top of each other" Iwata said). They seemed to actually think about it. The Wii U looks like they've taken the Wii design. And chucked out all of the design ideas. "Let's make it stupidly long and really cheap looking". "Lets also make it really hard to see any of the buttons on the front- so you can't tell which is eject or power off. And make the buttons set back, so you can't even feel the buttons."

The whole low power sleep mode on the Wii was brilliant. It was great to come through to find the blue light in the morning. Ah! A new Mario Kart track! Maybe a new message? It also meant you could charge your remotes from the USB while it was off. Brilliant! Yeah.. let's just chuck that out of the window for the Wii U.

The social media Miiverse, the online integration into Nintendo Land, the gamepad, the eshop being really easy to use are all really good steps forward. Then it just feels like there's loads of steps back at the same time.

I dunno- it sort of feels like the first DS hardware release. A bit fugly and not really thought out that well.. I really hope the next update sorts some of the speed issues out...

Oh, and the people I've mentioned it to... not one knew that the Wii U was out. Someone thought it was a new controller for the Wii. They all own a Wii.

Maybe I'm a bit tired and narky... I'm sure all will be forgiven in the next few months... ;-)

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Come christmas, when the annual Neck Stabber and Face Shooter franchises pop up, Nintendo will have something compelling and different to go with.

Hahaha, would that be Mario Kart 8 or Wind Waker HD?

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Wii Mode on the Wii U looks really good - better than my Wii on component through a HDMI upscale. I was flicking from one to the other to do the transfer. Clarity is night and day.

Anyway, played half an hour of Toki Tori 2. Not really feeling it :(

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There are some things that are brilliant about the Wii U (I love the Google Street thing, really clever) but there are also some things that are incredibly annoying.

The fact that it takes fucking ages to go into Wii mode. And I don't want to hear excuses like "yeah, but the menu stuff is really slow on the PS3 or 360". Switching between the original Wii (nice fast boot up- apart from that stupid health and safety warning) to the Wii U is a horrific experience when it comes to load times. Remember the big song and dance about when the GameCube came out- how Nintendo wanted the experience to be the same as carts (little loading time). Well it's like they've completely forgotten about that one. So it's now going to take around a minute to go into Wii mode.. before you can even boot anything up. I thought the Wii U was supposed to be a step forward?

The fact that Wii mode, through HDMI, looks fucking terrible. Really, really terrible. It's like going back to scart. So the backwards compatibility is just completely useless- I'll just keep the Wii next to the Wii U (never mind the fucking stupid design of managing saved games. Wouldn't it have been really great if they actually realised that people may keep the original Wii for use in another room. Wouldn't it be fab if you could play your copy of Donkey Country Returns on the Wii, then play it the next day on the Wii U and the two devices could use the magic of the network to tell update each others save game? Wouldn't it be great if they add a Wii Channel that could do that??? Yeah.. instead, you have to the stupid saved game transfer thing from the SD card. You can't even use saved games direct from the SD...

The fact that the gamepad constantly stays on. Constantly. Using Netflix, it stays on. Even if I'm not using it. So it's just draining the battery while I'm watching a film. Why? WHY?!?!?

The console design itself just seems really lazy. The Wii seemed like a great design ("it had to be no bigger than 4 DVD cases stacked on top of each other" Iwata said). They seemed to actually think about it. The Wii U looks like they've taken the Wii design. And chucked out all of the design ideas. "Let's make it stupidly long and really cheap looking". "Lets also make it really hard to see any of the buttons on the front- so you can't tell which is eject or power off. And make the buttons set back, so you can't even feel the buttons."

The whole low power sleep mode on the Wii was brilliant. It was great to come through to find the blue light in the morning. Ah! A new Mario Kart track! Maybe a new message? It also meant you could charge your remotes from the USB while it was off. Brilliant! Yeah.. let's just chuck that out of the window for the Wii U.

The social media Miiverse, the online integration into Nintendo Land, the gamepad, the eshop being really easy to use are all really good steps forward. Then it just feels like there's loads of steps back at the same time.

I dunno- it sort of feels like the first DS hardware release. A bit fugly and not really thought out that well.. I really hope the next update sorts some of the speed issues out...

Oh, and the people I've mentioned it to... not one knew that the Wii U was out. Someone thought it was a new controller for the Wii. They all own a Wii.

Maybe I'm a bit tired and narky... I'm sure all will be forgiven in the next few months... ;-)

Wii Connect 24 was a brilliant idea badly implemented and I was amazed when I got the Wii U that it wasn't even available in Wii mode, let alone as an integral component. You'd think with Spotpass it'd just go hand in glove, push messages, content and updates while it sleeps.

As for the other Wii stuff, :facepalm: they really don't want you owning more than one of their machines do they? Just let me put my profile on USB, is it too much to ask?

Hahaha, would that be Mario Kart 8 or Wind Waker HD?

In fairness, I think he means different to the rest of the market.

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Guys, you're not helping my WiiU buzz that seems to be gradually wearing off. I've prestiged in COD and genuinely enjoyed every minute but you can't COD forever. I bought Lego City, then saw the reflection of myself playing Lego City on my own when the screen went dark.


Can you revert to pretending to yourselves that we're all in a merry boat called 'The Hopeful Future'.
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Guys, you're not helping my WiiU buzz that seems to be gradually wearing off. I've prestiged in COD and genuinely enjoyed every minute but you can't COD forever. I bought Lego City, then saw the reflection of myself playing Lego City on my own when the screen went dark.
Can you revert to pretending to yourselves that we're all in a merry boat called 'The Hopeful Future'.

E3 is going to be the big one, though I'd expect a Direct this month to talk about the summer.

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Hahaha, would that be Mario Kart 8 or Wind Waker HD?

As SMD says, I mean different to the rest of the market. 1 Wind Waker, 1 MK, plus some stuff not shown yet vs. 8 Neck Stabbers and 12 Face Shooters. It's not even a contest.

But it's up to what you want. The Wii U is a great machine that will have great software. Taking nowt away from the PS3, which has some of the most innovative games this gen, and the 360, which has turned into an advertising box with great games, but the Wii U will find it's place. And make shedloads of money

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and... folks would go on and on and on about how they'd love an HD Wind Waker... and then they get it... and they moan.. (see also Pikmin 3)

Wind Waker HD is fine! Good, even! Where is ANYTHING else? Why is Pikmin 3 still only listed as Q2 2013? That news about Unity support was announced around launch - has anything built on Unity been announced?

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Wind Waker HD is fine! Good, even! Where is ANYTHING else? Why is Pikmin 3 still only listed as Q2 2013? That news about Unity support was announced around launch - has anything built on Unity been announced?

Because it's not E3 and christmas yet.

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has anything built on Unity been announced?

about a million indie games... keep up

they've already said they're working on the next big Mario, Smash Bros, they've shown that awesome looking 'X', you know Mario Kart is coming... feeling is that F-Zero is coming too (because it's quite prominent in Nintendoland).

It's as if Nintendo don't release a daily update of AMAZE people get annoyed

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about a million indie games... keep up

they've already said they're working on the next big Mario, Smash Bros, they've shown that awesome looking 'X', you know Mario Kart is coming... feeling is that F-Zero is coming too (because it's quite prominent in Nintendoland).

It's as if Nintendo don't release a daily update of AMAZE people get annoyed

No shit. Any specifically for Wii U? Links please.

Also I know E3 is like nine weeks away but they're at the point where the CEO is apologising for the lack of titles, you'd think it wouldn't kill them to put out a minute long teaser for something, anything.

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No shit. Any specifically for Wii U? Links please.

Also I know E3 is like nine weeks away but they're at the point where the CEO is apologising for the lack of titles, you'd think it wouldn't kill them to put out a minute long teaser for something, anything.

Why would they? If they did it now, and had nothing new to show at E3, the headlines would be "Nintendo E3 fail Lol lol lol".

They have a strategy. Us early adopters were to get jack past the launch stuff, but judging by the reactions of peeps on this thread who actually own a Wii U, we are all pretty happy at the moment.

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Guys, you're not helping my WiiU buzz that seems to be gradually wearing off. I've prestiged in COD and genuinely enjoyed every minute but you can't COD forever. I bought Lego City, then saw the reflection of myself playing Lego City on my own when the screen went dark.

Can you revert to pretending to yourselves that we're all in a merry boat called 'The Hopeful Future'.

I may have moaned a bit, and it's more at the annoying niggles that should have been thought about (maybe at times it feels like some of the silly things are just not like Ninetendo).

However, I think it will work out fine in the long term.

Animal Crossing, with the Nintendo Land online functionality will be amazing.

The fact that Nintendo has embraced downloading games- with no file size limits - hopefully means Nintendo themselves start making some smaller download only games with a quicker development turnaround. Hopefully some old franchises get resurrected, like F Zero or Mach Rider... ;-)

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A very large part of the problem is ninty aren't advertising the thing. They may have misstepped with calling it Wii anything as well as there is a perception among the general populace that its just a new controller for the standard wii ala kinect is to xbox.

I was discussing this earlier with a friend and we suggested they do an ad with a fella playing video games, his wife comes in and wants to watch her soap operas, so he just puts on some headphones and keeps gaming with the off telly feature....instant sales.

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A very large part of the problem is ninty aren't advertising the thing. They may have misstepped with calling it Wii anything as well as there is a perception among the general populace that its just a new controller for the standard wii ala kinect is to xbox.

This is weird. I saw a couple of ads around Christmas, but since the ASA banned the original advert they've just not done anything at all, bar that pamphlet in the US.

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I wonder if that is a problem. Maybe Nintendo are just waiting till they have some big games out.

Spot on. As I have said, Nintendo knows early adopters will stick with them, we are not their market anymore. Come christmas, Wii U will be all over the media.

Anyway, this isn't the trouble with Nintendo thread, it's the Wii U thread. Who else wants an eshop release with more levels of the DK game in NintendoLand?

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Doesn't mean anything, I mean, it got an Edge 5. Who'd want to play something that got a score like that? [/scottCR]

Shocker. Game that sold nowt on other platforms not in line for dev funds to port to Wii U.

What is the world coming to?

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