Nintendo Wii U

[jcee]

After much indecision I opted to buy Blops 2 on the Wii U. I have to say that I'm surprised at how much of a boon being able to play a game like this on the Gamepad screen is... It really feels fresh for some reason.

[mushashi]

It would be nice if they offered the choice of the 60hz versions of the games as well, for people not worried about getting the properly localised version, just so everyone was happy. I don't think I've ever played a game and not enjoyed it because it was the 50hz version though. I don't think I've ever even noticed.

Considering the 30Hz/60Hz debate and the 480/576/720/1080P debate, that doesn't surprise me in the least

I'm fairly sure I've read comments from people defending 50Hz before, even on here in the past.

[Fletch]

I'm not defending it but I've not really given it much thought, it was the way I played these games originally so I'll just buy them anyway.

[Revival]

I can't spend a penny on the service when Wii U owners in the USA and Japan are getting games as the developers originally intended and we're getting crippled versions that were the result of an archaic tv system which is no longer necessary.

Paying twice for an inferior product? Where else would this happen in retail? Madness.

[Meh]

Considering the 30Hz/60Hz debate and the 480/576/720/1080P debate, that doesn't surprise me in the least

I'm fairly sure I've read comments from people defending 50Hz before, even on here in the past.

The only good thing about 50hz is the resolution.

[shynra]

I'm sure I've in the past I may have half heartedly defended as I remember games at 50htz,even some music too @_@; i and prefer probotechtor to contra too!

But I'm in the 60htz preferences club now, but will probably still buy games at 50 as I remember them.

[Red Alignment]

To the pro-50hz "that's how I remember playing them" brigade, presumably you only ever watch older films and television programmes on a small 4:3 CRT television, played off VHS cassettes?

[KriessG]

...i and prefer probotechtor to contra too!

Played it so much you forgot the spelling even!

What is there to defend about 17.5% slower than intended and huge borders?

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

It's 2003 all over up in this bitch! Let's talk composite, RGB and component next.

[Meh]

My Trinitron used to make the image shift slightly to the left through RGB

[Dandy_Sephy]

I think most tv's did that, I think some systems might suffer from it more.

The only good thing about 50hz is the resolution.

PAL colour reproduction over composhite is considered superior to NTSC. Although thats redundant with RGB.

[joffocakes]

I always wondered why Mario Kart 64 was so popular; do you think it might be because I only played the PAL version that I found it so dull and sluggish compared to the other games in the series? I remember there being two separate high score threads for Super Mario Kart in the official nintendo magazine back in the day; that was the first time I remember being aware of the issue.

I'm quite interested in playing the NTSC version of Wave Race.

[SMD]

Mario Kart 64 PAL is like the NTSC version having a stroke.

[Fletch]

To the pro-50hz "that's how I remember playing them" brigade, presumably you only ever watch older films and television programmes on a small 4:3 CRT television, played off VHS cassettes?

I don't remember older films running 17.5% slower even on an old CRT and running off a VHS?

[Droo]

Right, am I being a spaz here but:

I thought NTSC games ran at the same speed as pal games when on an NTSC screen? i.e Ntsc game + ntsc screen = 100% speed, not 110% (or whatever) of Pal?

[Dandy_Sephy]

eh?

[pulsemyne]

My feelings about thise are

" who fucking cares? "

Talk abiut first world problems.

[Droo]

I also don't really care.

[Revival]

Thanks for setting the low standards that govern everyone elses choice.

[Fletch]

Don't cry fella it really doesn't matter, if someone wants to play the games in all their 60hz glory there are plenty of ways to do so, just not on the Wii U.

[SMD]

50Hz IS OLD AND SLOW

GIVE US 60Hz

[DarhkFox]

I got the USA version of Mario Kart on the SNES - it was so much faster than the PAL version when i played it a few years later. Remember buying it and super star wars from a local paper advert, and my dad (rip) tried it when i was at school and blew up the snes by not using a PAL cart in the back! I was so paranoid in the future about using that passport adapter.

N64 mario kart was not one of my favorite MK entries - found it far too slow.

[DC Lemon]

Stuff your precious 60Hz, I've moved on, my 400Hz TV has moved on.

[Revival]

I guess I should sell it then if another hardware generation is going to be wasted on apathetic consumers who set the bar so low we cant even play the games full screen and full speed like they were designed.

[geldra]

Stuff your precious 60Hz, I've moved on, my 400Hz TV has moved on.

I'm sure it'll do a fantastic job of displaying those massive black borders.

Winkey smiley.

[Meh]

Right, am I being a spaz here but:

I thought NTSC games ran at the same speed as pal games when on an NTSC screen? i.e Ntsc game + ntsc screen = 100% speed, not 110% (or whatever) of Pal?

Huh? PAL games will run slower no matter what television you stick them on - and I don't think they even work on NTSC sets anyway. NTSC games will run either at NTSC speed or not at all.

Unless it's some rubbish adapter thing you're putting them through to butcher the thing into running on PAL sets not capable of PAL60.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

I guess I should sell it then if another hardware generation is going to be wasted on apathetic consumers who set the bar so low we cant even play the games full screen and full speed like they were designed.

Yep, an entire generation of hardware is wasted because we can't run 20 year old games in 60hz. Glad I didn't buy a Wii U yet. Bullet dodged!

[shynra]

Just did a quick youtube to find a comparison movie. This seems cool-better than the gx on played by a snake!

On mob so will inbed when on a pc.

[Revival]

Yep, an entire generation of hardware is wasted because we can't run 20 year old games in 60hz. Glad I didn't buy a Wii U yet. Bullet dodged!

In what other retail instances do consumers in certain regions actively pay money for a crippled inferior product? Why is it acceptable now simply because when we were 6-10 we didn't know any better and had no web access or tech knowledge?

We're not asking for games with extra levels, a 24 ct gold filter option or for a free pricetag, We just want to be on the same level as everyone else in JP/USA and not feel like a bit of a twat paying £5-8 for something which doesn't even run properly. Seriously too much to ask?

[scottcr]

This really is getting to you isn't it?