Star Wars: The Force Awakens

[glb]

Watched the trailer a few times, love it. Overriding reaction is everything just feels authentic. The worlds they've created appear grubby, lived in and tangible, the snippets of dialogue effective and the music used note perfectly.

Sure the teasers have been mostly fan service but with a fan base as large and rabid as Star Wars', there's no real shame in taking that route.

This is Star Wars, these guys know what they're doing and it's a great feeling to know in December the vast majority of us will settle into cinema seats with the same excitement we felt the first time we read those magic words, 'a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away'.

[Broker]

Broker implied otherwise, but I wasn't having a pop at him. The whole spoiler situation on this forum has annoyed me lately. The Bloodborne thread is borderline ridiculous.

Edit: Ah, Fury. Why delete your post?

I feel I should clarify that I read all spoilers for everything, I just wanted to point out that there's very clearly not an exact definition of what is or isn't a spoiler.

[Tangent]

They're combing the desert.

And they ain't found shit!

[TehStu]

You know, I don't care about the planet, but I can't believe how many people I've upset while trying to be sensitive to those who are. It's been completely blown out of proportion.

Still, we have guidelines, which I'd forgotten about, so publicly available information doesn't need spoilers. Noted. And now we can move on, without all this wailing.

[Alex W.]

My own wild-ass guess based soley on the trailers:

A young Rebel/Stormtrooper/whoever suddenly wakes up to the force, and finds himself a wanted man on the run in a divided galaxy. He's pursued by two potential allies in the Skywalker family: the daughter who stuck to the light side of the force, and the son who fell to the dark.

[NecroMorrius]

Pretty sure the guy would cut off his own hand using that sabre, still looks cool.

Probably not, in the new teaser he seems to be wielding it with two hands like a greatsword. It's really long:

Look at 01:08 in the trailer, he's holding with both hands and swinging it over his head.

[NecroMorrius]

I've just had a really wacky idea. It's probably been disproven and talked to death already, but it IS an original thought at least:

What is Kylo Ren is actually

Gwendoline Christie? I can imagine the audience and good guys being simultaneously shocked when Kylo reveals "his" true nature. Her size and stature would make it an easy sell until the mask comes off. She's got plenty of experience hacking and slashing with a massive sword in GOT. It also jibes with cryptic comments Kathleen Kennedy made about female characters at the panel the other day.

[Jug McKenzie]

On 18/04/2015 at 21:45, Moz said:

 

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[wev]

Is there anywhere I can get a desktop wallpaper of the crashed X-Wing and Star Destroyer?

[rubberducker]

If you think about it this is a long term investment for Disney - they must be thinking of creating atleast a 12 part saga (outside of the supporting spin off films) - which would just about hold up to the lore of what Lucas spoke about in the 70's.

Disney are essentially rebooting Star Wars in many ways. And if you think about the first six films being the first part of the saga - and the next two trilogies (with a large gap in the middle to build anticipation) as the conclusion - there is so much they could do and play with.

For example we still have no idea what is so tempting about the dark side (George Lucas certainly didn't show us) My prediction... The galaxy is in a state of chaos and economic depression after the fall of the empire. And no new force sensitive individuals have appeared..... until (shmi skywalker descendant) Rey up and shows the skills. Then over the next two films descends into beings a powerful sith witch,,, (or not!)..

[Alex W.]

The Dark Side lets you straight-up shoot lightning out of your hands and choke subordinates. What more do you need?

[Paulando]

I wonder if they'll ever strike the prequel trilogy off as non-canon and redo them properly. I know it'd be 'disrepectful' to George Lucas or whatever, but $$$.

[Alex W.]

I could see them doing a prequel trilogy set before Lucas's, which doesn't directly contradict his, but sets up the original trilogy in a more satisfying way.

[Jug McKenzie]

On 18/04/2015 at 23:17, Paulando said:

 

[Spacehost]

I could see them doing a prequel trilogy set before Lucas's, which doesn't directly contradict his, but sets up the original trilogy in a more satisfying way.

Christ no. Prequels destroy mystery. I personally hate the idea of finding out how Han and Chewie met and got the Falcon because it makes the universe a little smaller.

[NecroMorrius]

It's a great idea, but this would suggest it's very unlikely:

You never know though!

I'm sure they wouldn't spoil the twist on purpose!

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

[Jug McKenzie]

On 18/04/2015 at 23:36, Spacehost said:

 

[jonamok]

Just remove midichlorians and Jar Jar Binks from the canon, I'm sure we can all live with the rest.

[Anne Summers]

It is pretty impressive how they have managed to get the hype machine firing everyone up into fits about this, despite the fact it all happened once before (well three times before. Four if you count Indy 4...) and we were all left crying and wailing bitterly. I would have thought that by the time they got to episode 7 everyone would be just a little bit cynical.

But I am really excited about this. Maybe more so than I was about Episode 1 (which, I seem to remember, we all started to get pretty suspicious about fairly early on - maybe when they unveiled Kid Annie, or when we learned what the subtitle was going to be).

[Made of Ghosts]

I'm still not sure what the phantom menace actually *was* in that film.

[Spacehost]

I'm still not sure what the phantom menace actually *was* in that film.

George Lucas' lack of directing talent?

[makkuwata]

I'm still not sure what the phantom menace actually *was* in that film.

Something something Palpatine presenting an obvious foe in Maul while pulling strings behind the scenes. Let's not criticise the name of the movie. After Liam Neeson it was the next most redeeming feature.

[Spacehost]

Also midiclorians. Midiclorians are heroin.

[TehStu]

For example we still have no idea what is so tempting about the dark side (George Lucas certainly didn't show us) My prediction... The galaxy is in a state of chaos and economic depression after the fall of the empire. And no new force sensitive individuals have appeared..... until (shmi skywalker descendant) Rey up and shows the skills. Then over the next two films descends into beings a powerful sith witch,,, (or not!)..

They could explore stuff like the Darth Bane trilogy*, which is literally the fall of many sith and the beginning of the rule of two. It's all thousands of years before Star Wars, so wouldn't interfere with anything.

*brilliant, recent EU stuff. You should all read it.

[Spacehost]

Isn't the Dark Side just Force users who have fallen to baser desires like vengeance and hatred, and the Force manifests in them as melty faces and lightening hands?

[TehStu]

Isn't the Dark Side just Force users who have fallen to baser desires like vengeance and hatred, and the Force manifests in them as melty faces and lightening hands?

Basically. Although it feels more like a warrior, having to build up rage, rather than expending mana as a mage. As outlined by EU stuff, anyway. I like it.

[Spacehost]

Yeah, but there's not like a Dark Side recruitment stand at the Jedi Fair, trying to get Jedi to buy into Force Suck My Lightening Dick or anything is there? Any Jedi, even Joda, is a potential Dark Side guy.

Side note: I am disappointed by the lack of Yoda-species guys in the EU, unless he's just like Liam Neeson except he was so Force adept he eventually turned into a senile green Muppet with a speech disorder. I mean, surely Peter Dinklage is a shoe in as some sort of alchololic washout Yoda-like who wasn't quite badass enough to turn green.

[Matt Defis]

Isn't the Dark Side just Force users who have fallen to baser desires like vengeance and hatred, and the Force manifests in them as melty faces and lightening hands?

Not really, it's all a bit up in the air since Disney done away with the EU but there are many different types of Sith as there are Jedi, it all depends where your talents in the force lie really. You have sorcery, alchemy, straight up warriors and a whole bunch of others, you have Sith that mess around with genetic manipulation through the force to create armies of slaves or beast, you have Sith that are amazing with robotics, it's all over really.

Darth Bane was in the Clone Wars (voiced by Hamill no doubt) which means he's now canon so they could very well do his story which would be awesome, I'm really hoping they decide to make a Revan movie.

[rubberducker]

The dark side should be like crack cocaine to a Jedi. Suductive, hard to resist, and forever dominating your destiny once you have tasted its power. And very hard to stop using once you have started...

Not getting a bit angry, dodgy red contacts and the vague promise of living forever. I always imagined the prequels would explore the allure of dark side through anakin. Little did I realise George hadn't figured that bit out atall. The fall of vader was of less interest to him than creating a fully CGI Jar Jar... Fuck I hate the prequels...

[Jug McKenzie]

On 18/04/2015 at 23:39, Moz said: