Star Wars: The Force Awakens

[Jug McKenzie]

On 07/12/2014 at 19:19, jeebus said:

 

On 07/12/2014 at 19:21, Tangent said:

 

[makkuwata]

So that 4chan leaker "Spoilerman" claims this is the opening crawl.

[Jug McKenzie]

On 08/12/2014 at 16:03, makkuwata said:

 

Spoiler

 

[Nick R]

So that 4chan leaker "Spoilerman" claims this is the opening crawl.

What are the odds that the "artifact that might change everything" is a red ball of some kind?

[TehStu]

Perfect (if genuine) - the bit about [...] is exactly the kind of reversal of Lucas' galaxy-shrinking prequel antics that Star Wars needs.

I didn't read the link, but couldn't help myself with what you wrote in spoiler tags. I think that sounds perfect, and probably why folk like the older stuff so much, which generally stayed away from restricted themes.

Actually, even the EU (in the better books) touches upon the struggles to keep the galactic politics cohesive, and the Imperial Remnant kinda plays into that.

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[Alex W.]

That doesn't read quite right to me. I like the picture that it's painting but not the language.

[krenzler]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/sensory-assault-dolby-takes-imax-753479

(no spoilers just tech-stuff).

[makkuwata]

If the leaks are legit I'm incredibly optimistic. If they're studio misdirection I'm glad I get to have my cake and eat it too. There seems to be enough evidence out there to suggest someone is talking either way.

H/She suggested we'll see official release imagery of Han at the very least before Christmas. So I guess we might know better soon.

What are the odds that the "artifact that might change everything" is a red ball of some kind?

If some of the more vague hints are to be believed I suspect it's

Luke's blue sabre that he lost on Bespin and is now said to be in the possession of Daisy Ridley. I guess inquisitors could use it to get a "force scent" for Luke or something?

Dumb speculation like this is why I'm onboard the potential-spoiler-but-probably-bullshit train.

[rubberducker]

All I can say, is that I'm really happy George Lucas isn't anywhere near this universe anymore.

George Lucas Still Hasn’t Seen The Force Awakens Teaser.

It’s been almost 10 days since the teaser trailer for the most anticipated movie in the Galaxy has been released. It appears that Star Wars creator George Lucas is amongst the few who still hasn’t seen the teaser. Find out why, after the jump…

Lucas spoke to PageSix at Bloomberg Businessweek’s 85th anniversary, which he attended with his wife, DreamWorks Animation chairwoman Mellody Hobson.

From PageSix:

The original “Star Wars” creator astonishingly told Page Six when we asked him what he thought of Abrams’ 88-second teaser that’s managed to dominated popular culture, “I don’t know anything about it. I haven’t seen it yet.”

When we further asked Lucas why he hasn’t seen the clip, he explained, “Because it’s not in the movie theater. I like going to the movies and watching the whole thing there.

“I plan to see it when it’s released.”

A year ago, Lucas’ son, Jett Lucas, said

in an interview that his dad, who’s credited as a creative consultant on the new film, was “constantly talking to J.J.,” and that “J.J. was handpicked.” But when we asked Lucas if he was curious to see what Abrams has done with the new “Star Wars,” Lucas said, “Not really.”

[Broker]

Good, fuck off and stay away George.

[Glasgowchivas]

Apparently, Lucas' treatments for VII, VIII and IX have also been booted (or at least heavily reworked) since Abrams threw out the Arndt version of the VII script.

[Cras]

Lucas really does seem to be a bit of a pissy little bitch, doesn't he?

[rubberducker]

Apparently, Lucas' treatments for VII, VIII and IX have also been booted (or at least heavily reworked) since Abrams threw out the Arndt version of the VII script.

which i totally believe and is properly most of George's problem with it.

I imagine those first treatments were exactly the reason JJ wouldn't get on board initially because he knew they were flawed - and it was only when creative control was assigned to JJ that he fully embraced it. That's why i have a lot of hope for it. because he isn't GL, he gets the potential of it. he gets what made the older films good, and what made the prequels abhorrent to the majority of the fanbase.

I'd love to see what the original treatments were. i would bet they were flat as fuck and predictable. my guess is JJ has cut the saga in half and this is being developed as a further six film cycle that charts the rebuilding of the republic. thus completing the original 12 film promise of the 70's and giving Disney plenty of value for money. And i can't see this first trilogy ending well (dramatically speaking - Daisy would make a pretty great Sith Witch by the time we get to the end:).

[makkuwata]

Word is Lucas had a very Skywalker family heavy draft and the Abrams team were a bit "George, fuck off, Anakin didn't need to build 3P0."

[rubberducker]

which word?

[makkuwata]

Leaky who knows if he can be trusted word.

[Alex W.]

That George Lucas piece: if you read what he actuall said as one lump rather than a bunch of snippets, he's saying that he's not interested in watching the trailer because he prefers to see movies as finished products. Not that he isn't interested in the movie.

[makkuwata]

Yeah but he's also the guy who campaigned against colourisation yet made Greedo shoot first and doesn't recognise the hypocrisy. I'm not fully on board the Lucas hate train, but fuck that dude.

[Alex W.]

Well yeah, but we don't need a poorly mangled bit of click bait to tell us that.

[b00dles]

That was a bit of a non-article really but I'm glad Lucas is not involved really, some of the stuff in the 'making of' bits of the new trilogy are quite telling in how little he cared about what made them enjoyable in the first place.

I also wouldn't be surprised if he didn't give a monkeys about it while he's swimming in his Scrooge McDuck moneypool.

[makkuwata]

One of the more troubling moments of the prequel BTS stuff is watching Spielberg enthusiastically reinforce everything Lucas is excited about.

He was trying to be a good friend at the time, sure, but you just know he agrees with everyone else on the planet about the quality of those movies.

[Glasgowchivas]

Annual reminder that while Lucas is an OT meddling, Prequel creating, neckbeard, he did give $4billion to charity after selling Lucasfilm.

[b00dles]

neckbeard? He doesn't even have a neck, he's like a bullfrog.

He does give a lot to charity though, I'm not disputing that. He's probably a very nice chap too but he became (or perhaps always was) a crap director.

[Glasgowchivas]

It started as a neckbeard then got pushed onto his face by the swelling.

[makkuwata]

Annual reminder that while Lucas is an OT meddling, Prequel creating, neckbeard, he did give $4billion to charity after selling Lucasfilm.

Charity be damned, he gave the world Star Wars.

Much of the appeal was McQuarrie, Williams and ILM, but he got the ball rolling. Lucas be praised.

He's still a lucky talentless hack tho.

[rubberducker]

come on...he's hardly talentless... but he became confined to a very narrow vision of what his creation was. and didn't really understand the potential of the saga at all - hence lifeless, badly acted, structured and conceived prequel films. its like he made them deliberately bad for some higher artistic purpose.

[makkuwata]

I'll always struggle to call him talented. In an alternate universe he's the guy who made Flash Gordon and nobody has ever heard of.

[b00dles]

It was his weird 'they should be like the Saturday matinee movies' excuse which I never understood, perhaps in his childhood those Saturday matinee movies were all really badly acted and scripted and actually it's a very faithful 'update' to that style of film. I just think he wasn't actually that good at directing.

[rubberducker]

making a a big budget version of a cheap as chips 1940's serial must have seemed like pretty wacky and very risky proposition back in 1973. so i have monumental respect and awe for his ability to pull that off - and to do so, so very spectacularly.

But if i was stuck in a lift with him - i'd love to know how he originally thought the prequels would be received? he spoke at length when he started them about what a bad writer he was, about how he likes weird medieval play style acting and how the prequels won't have one protagonist - but will be more like a soap opera drama. i'm not joking when i say its like he made them shit on purpose - because that's all he talks about in early interviews. but why? how could that have possibly worked out well?

thats perhaps the biggest mystery in SW universe.

[b00dles]

Yeah I think you're right, I actually think it was intentionally like that, why, I have no idea.

American Grafitti doesn't have that same odd style for instance but he never made much else in between to know if he changed style and star wars was definitely meant to be that way, or if he'd have made a 'normal' drama, or thriller, if it would have been equally as bad as the prequels. It's peculiar.