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Those crazy Star Wars filmmakers. Why they insist on titling the new films with reference to major themes in the previous films, and filling the new films with things that the old films are about...it's just beyond understanding.

It's like they are not trying to appeal to a completely different audience with no interest in the previous films at all! :quote:

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Well..I hate JJ Abrams because of what he did to Star Trek and I can't say that the trailer excited me because of that. It just makes me sad that he's going to fuck this up too.

All of the throwbacks make me think that he's going to be referencing the original trilogy and shitting all over it.

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Seriously though, despite the fact this will obviously be a CGIfest, they tried so hard to make as much of everything as possible in real life. Some of the animatronics they are using on this film are seriously fucking mindblowing.

And when CGI is done well no-one has a damn clue it's there anyway.

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I think it looks cool but I see that and I think, again, 'get your own imagery and stop resting on the laurels of a set of films that is 30 years old because you know its obsessive fans will lap it up regardless of how cheap it is'. It just smacks of a lazy and derivative kinda Pavlovian pandering. A bit like several highly irritating parts of Alien Isolation; there's fan service which can only be described as 'pandering' in how obvious and forced it is.

I mean, why not just present some new ideas and stop catting on the tired and way over-appropriated imagery of the first films? How about you show us a new memorably designed ship? How about you try to evoke the feelings of excitement the Falcon produces by making us feel in love with a new ship design (and crew) that isn't totally reliant on decades-old nostalgia?

Maybe there are new memorable ships in the movie - but you can't produce a new Star Wars movie that has the MF in it without showing that big old bastard - now dogfighting on top of the sands of Tattoine. Or however the fuck you spell that.

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I think it looks cool but I see that and I think, again, 'get your own imagery and stop resting on the laurels of a set of films that is 30 years old because you know its obsessive fans will lap it up regardless of how cheap it is'. It just smacks of a lazy and derivative kinda Pavlovian pandering. A bit like several highly irritating parts of Alien Isolation; there's fan service which can only be described as 'pandering' in how obvious and forced it is.

I mean, why not just present some new ideas and stop catting on the tired and way over-appropriated imagery of the first films? How about you show us a new memorably designed ship? How about you try to evoke the feelings of excitement the Falcon produces by making us feel in love with a new ship design (and crew) that isn't totally reliant on decades-old nostalgia?

It's a direct sequel. To the films that came before. I know you don't want this but that's what it is. Hence VII.

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I thought the trailer was a nice mix of old and new ideas. The "new" stuff looked appropriately 70s sci-fi and the old stuff looked right.

Fuck y'all, the lightsword is cool. Looks like a greatsword, swung with two hands? You can just about see where it ends in the shot and it looks longer than a normal one.

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Ah yes, Tattoine. Of course. Because this film is continuing the rich prequel tradition of making the Star Wars (literal) universe seem to consist of the same dozen planets. Which is so disappointing.

Yes, I expected you to respond with something like that - and I can't really disagree that something new would be cool, so how about X-Wings skimming over the surface of an ocean or whatever? Does that not seem awesome?

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I thought the trailer was a nice mix of old and new ideas. The "new" stuff looked appropriately 70s sci-fi and the old stuff looked right.

Fuck y'all, the lightsword is cool. Looks like a greatsword, swung with two hands?

Bastard sword, I'd say. One-and-a-half hander.

Calling them sabers is kind of daft when they are clearly other weapons, but there you go.

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That's a very nice shot but whilst I do find the inclusion of the X-Wings markedly less irritating than the Falcon (for some reason*) it's hard to talk of it overall being something new when its main component, the craft, are very much again the same 'iconic' imagery being re-used in order to set off the pleasure centres in Star Wars fanboys minds.

*Probably because they were presumably mass-produced somewhere at some point - we know there are multiples of them whereas the Falcon at least appears to be unique

The falcon is a modified YT-1300 and it also happens to be Han's ship. Central character in the movies.

I was pretty underwhelmed by the trailer, but that criticism is just silly.

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