Star Wars: The Force Awakens

[Alex W.]

"Awakes" would work perfectly.

[Paulando]

I like it.

No matter what title they went with people would moan, then gradually come to accept it. It's absolutely fine. Perfect title to 'open' a new trilogy too.

[Mr. Gerbik]

Star Wars Episode VII: A New Trilogy

[Lovelyman]

The Force Awakes would sound like the bit in away in a manger when The son of God is revealed as a force instead of a baby.

[Jumble Jumble]

If it was called the force awakes then everyone would just complain that it was the first title with four syllables instead of three or five, and didn't fit.

Face it, nothing will fit. The originals "fit" because they're old and you're used to them and they were introduced to you at a time when you accepted everything you were presented with without question.

[Jug McKenzie]

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[Mr Cochese]

The Dark Force Rises

Just write the usual cheque in my name, Disney.

[Ork1927]

I think the issue is what does it get shortened to?

Empire, Jedi, Awakens??? I realise you can't really shortens the prequels, but who ever discusses them.

[Chocky]

They're all pulpy and in line with the original inspiration (Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers, etc), but the word awakens just sticks out. The Force Stirs, The Force Returns all sound shit and pulpy and fit the bill, but that third syllable just sounds odd, in a cheap/naff way, to me for some reason.

Can't put my finger on it.

This is my opinion, it's ok and we'll get used to it but my initial reaction was 'it's not shit and/or pulpy enough!'

[Jug McKenzie]

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[Fury4k]

I think the issue is what does it get shortened to?

Empire, Jedi, Awakens??? I realise you can't really shortens the prequels, but who ever discusses them.

Force.

The title could refer to the force awakening within either one or a group of individuals. Maybe after a long period of there being only Luke and Leia with sensitivity. Would make sense and sound good in that context.

[Tourist]

This* is worse than the puns.

*By which I mean several pages of people complaining about the name.

[TehStu]

I give it the "massive EU apologist" seal of approval.

[Jumble Jumble]

I think the issue is what does it get shortened to?

Really though?

[Sabreman]

Awakens is the kind of word you use when you want to appear deep and mystical, which is why it's there.

[Mr Cochese]

I hope something idiotic happens in this one like the mini-chlorinans turning themselves into a man who is essentially the embodiment of the Force, and then he turns evil and goes on a rampage.

[Jumble Jumble]

Isn't that basically the story of Darth Vader?

So anyway. Up to now the force has been asleep. Turns out it's a sentient being. In this one it wakes up and goes "what the fuck have you guys been doing with me while I was asleep? It's disgusting, I feel raped".

Then Luke and Vader say "ffs, take it as a compliment. Actually it's about ethics in trade disputes".

[Glasgowchivas]

I had a really bad sleep last night, waking up at half-three, convinced there was someone in the house.

At some point though I had a dream about Star Wars, this new film specifically. I dreamt that the film opened with Han Solo giving a lecture in front of some kind of university. He was in a kind of holodeck and was manipulating the image around him as he zoomed about the galaxy.

He was an old hippy, the lower half of his face was covered by a see-through scarf and he had Henna-style markings across his temples. He started taking questions from the people in the theatre but but before he could finish a spaceship smashed through the wall and destroyed the place, presumably killing everyone. There was more than that but soon after the dream switched to be about some dickhead in my work and I can't remember anymore.

[Steven]

Be interesting to see whether the force goes back to being cool and mysterious or now, post prequels, has to be taken with a swap and stuck under a microscope.

[Glasgowchivas]

Be interesting to see whether the force goes back to being cool and mysterious or now, post prequels, has to be taken with a swap and stuck under a microscope.

Midi-chlorians and all the associated bullshit is now canon but it can be easily ignored and it can be treated the way it was in the OT again.

[Steven]

Going off title discussion for a moment, I think it's pretty impressive how little is actually known about the plot of this film and any of its characters, seeing as they're done shooting.

[Jumble Jumble]

Is there anyone alive who even knows midichlorians exist?

[Broker]

Going off title discussion for a moment, I think it's pretty impressive how little is actually known about the plot of this film and any of its characters, seeing as they're done shooting.

I think the Star Wars brand probably helps here. Where usually it would be easy to confirm/deny supposedly leaked things, the richness and detail of the Star Wars franchise makes it nearly impossible to figure our what leaks are real, negating the need for the producers to comment on them.

[rubberducker]

that title does sound awfully unimaginative and fan fiction like.

unlike others i really liked the titles of "Attack of The Clones" and "Revenge Of The Sith"as they sounded completely in keeping with the OT. Its just a shame the films were shit.

Maybe JJ is trying to set expectations low this time by having the blandest title he can think of.

[Glasgowchivas]

Is there anyone alive who even knows midichlorians exist?

In-universe? Good question. Not any of the main characters, certainly.

Von Sydow's rumoured character is old enough to have been alive during the PT and will likely provide a info-dump of plot at some point but hopefully not regarding midi-chlorians.

[Jumble Jumble]

Or maybe they thought of a bunch of titles, realised there was literally no way they could come up with one that internerds would accept, so just went with one they liked and that described the premise of the story.

[Jumble Jumble]

In-universe? Good question. Not any of the main characters, certainly.

Von Sydow's rumoured character is old enough to have been alive during the PT and will likely provide a info-dump of plot at some point but hopefully not regarding midi-chlorians.

Yeah, I meant in-universe. Yoda and Ben never bothered telling Luke about them, so hopefully Von Sydow will be of a similar mind. Luke did in the end get quite good at it all without knowing about them, so they're not really necessary.

Maybe the midichlorians are like leeches, anyway. People thought they did one thing but they turned out to be nothing to do with it.

[Broker]

That would be good. A little "for a while, people actually thought these tiny microbes had something to do with the force! LOLZZZZ"

[Sponge]

Yeah, I meant in-universe. Yoda and Ben never bothered telling Luke about them, so hopefully Von Sydow will be of a similar mind. Luke did in the end get quite good at it all without knowing about them, so they're not really necessary.

Maybe the midichlorians are like leeches, anyway. People thought they did one thing but they turned out to be nothing to do with it.

It's all a bit silly and one of the biggest missteps of the prequels IMO.

I mean in the prequels they even had blood tests and equipment to check a persons force level. That sort of thing doesn't disappear out of scientific and common knowledge in a couple of generations.

It makes Han's dismissive tones about the force seem ridiculous in ANH. I've already mentioned in this thread that Chewbacca hung out with Yoda and saw Jedi doing their stuff first hand so he might have mentioned them to Han, but really Han or his parents were alive when the Jedi had a massive temple on one of the main planets, Jedi were fucking everywhere running around with their flashy swords and negotiating trade deals, everyone knew about them, basic service droids on trade blockade ships identified them as Jedi immediately, random scrap merchants on shitty border planets are familiar with jedi mind tricks, little slave boys know all about them, a massive war is literally fought by them, and then suddenly everyone forgets all about them in them the space of a few years and it's considered mystical nonsense and hokey religions.

Actually it's not just silly it's fucking stupid.

[Jumble Jumble]

George, you can type this shit, but you sure can't stay consistent to it or even remember it.