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It’s probably corporate - something to do with the mandatory PayPal introduction. They claimed they wanted shipping prices to show on the website like other places online, but it’s really not practical for small scale sellers. And the Discogs UI is awful. I never had any trouble with Discogs in years of selling vinyl and CDs until this change. It’s a shame there’s not a better alternative. 

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eBay is so much worse than Discogs. I don't think I'd even consider buying vinyl there! Buying CDs is bad enough - you never quite know which version you're getting and what sort of condition it will arrive in.

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Interesting, I have had good experiences with it. 

 

Juno are the fucking worst. They charge you insurance then piss and moan and make you fuck about to get a replacement if it arrives damaged (and they clearly don't check stuff before packing/posting it).

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17 hours ago, acidbearboy said:

eBay is so much worse than Discogs. I don't think I'd even consider buying vinyl there! Buying CDs is bad enough - you never quite know which version you're getting and what sort of condition it will arrive in.


I’ve bought loads of vinyl on eBay, it’s fine. Prices are usually better than Discogs too.

 

Tbh Discogs hasn’t been so brilliant in my experience in terms of quality, I’ve had a few records sold as NM that were clearly ex-dj! However, Discogs sellers are very good at refunding if you aren’t happy with their grading.

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eBay can be OK - at least you get pictures of the actual item - whereas Discogs it isn't a default option. 


What normally lets eBay down - and its not eBay - it's people that don't know how to ship it out - a rare item where it was their grandads or something and post it out to you in a brown paper bag.

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4 hours ago, englishbob said:

Double album bargain at £67.99

 

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I would expect that to come down in price closer to release. But stil, the wildly increasing vinyl prices do seem like the record companies are trying to milk every last drop from the end of the vinyl revival.  

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11 minutes ago, Ste_S said:

 

I would expect that to come down in price closer to release. But stil, the wildly increasing vinyl prices do seem like the record companies are trying to milk every last drop from the end of the vinyl revival.  

 

Her official site has it for £61

 

This is the best one yet though - £85.99 https://thesoundofvinyl.com/*/*/Renaissance-Limited-Deluxe-2LP/7IR10000000

 

Due to the fact that this first vinyl edition is going to have the original lyrics still intact - it's going to be the most flipped disc on ebay and Discogs I reckon

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On 28/07/2022 at 18:56, Lovelyman said:

Interesting, I have had good experiences with it. 

 

Juno are the fucking worst. They charge you insurance then piss and moan and make you fuck about to get a replacement if it arrives damaged (and they clearly don't check stuff before packing/posting it).

I’ve found them to be great. 
i ordered something a while ago - a repress of Le Sato which is a right old lp that’s probably a crap pressing to start with - and it was a bit noisy at the start. 
I rang them and they sent me another no charge, no quibble and without returning the first one. 
 

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Been on holiday to Cornwall last couple of weeks and sniffed out a couple of record shops while down there. 
 

Prices on everything are absolute madness. I don’t understand it. There was a great place in Bodmin specialising in rock and metal, tonnes of stuff, but everything was £20 minimum, and Kate Bush / Pink Floyd around £30 a pop. Even the CDs were crazy, I’m not spending a fiver on a scuffed Dinosaur Jr CD, or TWENTY POUNDS for Zen Arcade by Hüsker Dü. 

 

And just because you’ve popped it in a polythene sleeve doesn’t mean I fancy paying £20 for Mungo Jerry’s greatest hits. 
 

Surely we’re about to hit a tipping point if these little backwater shops have put these kinds of prices on things? We have a cost of living crisis happening, and buying a battered Duran Duran album for a tenner isn’t like investing in a fancy bottle of wine to flip in a few years. 

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Just went to a fair and picked up the following

 

eurythmics - be yourself tonight - £5

ultravox - Vienna album - £4 (never heard it before and now I have it is worth it for Astradyne!) 

pink floyd animals first pressing £12

war of worlds in fantastic condition with perfect booklet (which my current copy lacks) - £5

whitesnake - trouble - £7

simon and garfunkel sounds of silence £5

star trek voyage home soundtrack - £7

 

There was a lot of scratched tat and overpriced stuff but take your time and you can still find bargains/reasonably priced stuff

 

 

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33 minutes ago, ZOK said:

Surely they are the best judge of what they can get for these records? If they price them too high, they don’t sell and they go out of business.

Well of course and it’s their business. But it does take the “ooh, I’ll take a punt on that” fun out of browsing when literally everything is at a serious price.
 

I love second hand bookshops for this reason - loads of moochability, and a mix of expensive stuff and dirt cheap things. You never know what you might come across. But if they all suddenly started pricing their dog-eared old Penguin books at £8+ it wouldn’t be as fun.  
 

Unless they have a serious online operation, I can’t see how record shops in the run-down parts of seaside towns hope to make money on them. 

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20 minutes ago, Clipper said:

Just went to a fair and picked up the following

 

eurythmics - be yourself tonight - £5

ultravox - Vienna album - £4 (never heard it before and now I have it is worth it for Astradyne!) 

pink floyd animals first pressing £12

war of worlds in fantastic condition with perfect booklet (which my current copy lacks) - £5

whitesnake - trouble - £7

simon and garfunkel sounds of silence £5

star trek voyage home soundtrack - £7

 

There was a lot of scratched tat and overpriced stuff but take your time and you can still find bargains/reasonably priced stuff

 

 


Well, most of those are really ‘worth’ no more than £2 on vinyl from a chazzer, so you are really making @Twinbee’s point.

 

But that’s me applying early 2000s pre-vinyl revival pricing to them. These days, anything goes!

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37 minutes ago, Twinbee said:

Well of course and it’s their business. But it does take the “ooh, I’ll take a punt on that” fun out of browsing when literally everything is at a serious price.
 

I love second hand bookshops for this reason - loads of moochability, and a mix of expensive stuff and dirt cheap things. You never know what you might come across. But if they all suddenly started pricing their dog-eared old Penguin books at £8+ it wouldn’t be as fun.  
 

Unless they have a serious online operation, I can’t see how record shops in the run-down parts of seaside towns hope to make money on them. 

I agree, record shops vary greatly. I have a handful locally - there is

 

1) one that prices 70s/80s pop (£2 chazzer records in early 2000s) at £10 (your battered Duran Duran example) and the "big names" or "collectables" (A label I am seeing more often the genre categories) at 30-40. Sometimes has the odd release I can't get anywhere else so I do pay if its a big fave of mine that I want a vg+ or NM copy of.

2) two that prices the older stuff at 4-5 and big names can go as high as 40+ but you can still get the odd "bargain" (quotes as one mans bargain is another mans tat)

3) One that sells no "chazzer tat" at all and only has big names plus new releases , all eye watering prices. I don't go in there as his turnover of stock is slow as well.

 

The record fairs are a big mix of all those and the 2nd category are harder to find. I am happy to pay £4-£5 for a vg+ copy of an unknown or 70s/80s classic I may not have in my collection. Also happy to pay big money when I have to. So I would recommend the fairs, they are as hit and miss as shops are but whereas a decent sized town may have 2 shops a fair will have usually at least 10 traders so the chances of getting a decent one is higher :)

 

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I think we're reached peak vinyl. Prices are only going up- record companies are charging premium prices for new vinyl as manufacturing capacity is limited, and collectors are buying up all the used vinyl when there's only a limited amount of that available.

I've been selling some stuff on Discogs recently, including some £50-100 records, that I've priced to sell rather than sit there for months at inflated prices. Interestingly, the people buying them seem to be Discogs dealers that then re-list them for inflated prices.

I do wonder how much of Discogs is dealers selling record back and forth to each other.

 

I buy a lot more CDs now. I get the same buzz out of crate digging for CDs now as I did for vinyl in the 90-00s, and for the most part, it's super cheap.

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3 hours ago, Twinbee said:

Been on holiday to Cornwall last couple of weeks and sniffed out a couple of record shops while down there. 
 

Prices on everything are absolute madness. I don’t understand it. There was a great place in Bodmin specialising in rock and metal, tonnes of stuff, but everything was £20 minimum, and Kate Bush / Pink Floyd around £30 a pop. Even the CDs were crazy, I’m not spending a fiver on a scuffed Dinosaur Jr CD, or TWENTY POUNDS for Zen Arcade by Hüsker Dü. 

 

And just because you’ve popped it in a polythene sleeve doesn’t mean I fancy paying £20 for Mungo Jerry’s greatest hits. 
 

Surely we’re about to hit a tipping point if these little backwater shops have put these kinds of prices on things? We have a cost of living crisis happening, and buying a battered Duran Duran album for a tenner isn’t like investing in a fancy bottle of wine to flip in a few years. 

 

The vinyl revival is dead - bargains haven't been a thing for a number of years

 

Charity Shops are dry - most of the good stuff goes to insiders or contacts

Record Fairs - what used to be a £1 is now about £5

2nd hand shops - probably the best place to go now outside of ebay and discogs - but they know their subject generally and will charge going rate

New Vinyl - double albums now seem to be going for around £40 or above these last months, depending on artist. Checked my pre-order fo Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers - made on 30th June at Amazon for £28.99 - asking pre-order price is now £42.99

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I know I’ve made it worse as I came to vinyl late myself, only when my other half bought one of those little portable thingies, and I got her a copy of Dark Side of the Moon and we had a lovely time just chilling and listening to it. 
 

But yeah, perhaps now is the time to wait for the bubble to burst (again). I still go through every chazza, but apart from the one prog horde I uncovered about 4 years ago, I’ve seen nothing since. 

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Perhaps a silly question, but how does everybody store their singles? My 12"'s (and the occasional 10") all live happily on Ikea's finest,* but keeping the singles on there just seems like overkill; either I give them their own shelf and they're just not using the space effectively, or I slot them in amongst the albums/EPs and then they become a right pain to retrieve. So, what's a good solution to store, like, less than 30 singles, while keeping them accessible? Ideally a single standalone solution, rather than an entire shelving unit!

 

PS - the correct answer here is not "a jukebox", as much as I have very fond memories of the '50s Wurlitzer my stepdad restored back when I was a kid. Alas that mum got rid of it after he passed, and I didn't at that point have a house to put it in :(

 

*meaning a Kallax, obviously

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I mean, I could probably justify carrying around a copy of Ryuichi Sakamoto's War Head at all times, but that sounds a little risky to its continued survival, and doesn't really help me with my other singles ;)

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2 hours ago, Wiper said:

Perhaps a silly question, but how does everybody store their singles? My 12"'s (and the occasional 10") all live happily on Ikea's finest,* but keeping the singles on there just seems like overkill

I don't have a lot of 7" singles but the ones I do have I keep in one of these really useful boxes.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273339279271

 

I've got my 12" singles and albums in Kallax too (doesn't everyone?). A full 4x2 plus a bit of overspill in a couple of smaller record cases.

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10 minutes ago, Ste_S said:

Probably not exactly this, but something like this you can put on a Kallax shelf?

 

https://www.hhv.de/shop/en/item/record-box-vinyl-record-storage-7-schallplatten-aufbewahrung-100-white-568261

 

That isn't a bad shout; I might not put one on the Kallax itself, but something like that would probably suit nearby. Give me something to browse when I want to pop something on during a five minute gap.

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