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1 hour ago, disperse and recoagulate said:

Hello. I've bought some vinyl records recently and listened to the majority them and now want to "put them away" for a bit, in the loft. Can anyone recommend some kind of solid storage solution? I'm thinking like one of those clear plastic boxes with the clasps on like this but not sure about sizing cos I don't want them to get squashed. There's no damp in my loft, as far as I know, but would prefer to avoid putting them in a cardboard box. They're currently in an old plastic drawer that we no longer have the shelving part for, but I want something with a lid, really.

 

Basically, I'm hoping someone has got some boxes for the same purpose and I can get the same thing. I probably have about 40 12" records to store.

 

edit: Although this looks nice.

 

2nd edit: nevermind. I think I'll order this one.  £15, holds 50 records, exactly what I had in mind.

3rd edit: shipping was as much as the box but it's on amazon for £16.52

 

What are you a millionaire? Get yer sen to Ryman..

 

https://www.ryman.co.uk/really-useful-storage-box-35-litre-xl

 

 

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@Welrain If it’s the Audio Technica turntable, there’s a phono/line switch on the back. If you’re going into a dedicated phono input on the amp/speakers then use that setting, otherwise if you’re using a normal input like you would for a CD player etc then set it to line. That should do the trick.

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24 minutes ago, Welrain said:

Line on the turntable, what switch on the speaker? Input is to switch between cable and Bluetooth.

Sorry, my bad. I looked at the Amazon page and thought the speakers had the same line/phono option too.

 

If you connect a phone, do you need to turn the phone volume down for it to sound normal/comfortable? Does a phone with the volume up full have the same issue as the TT and sound crazy loud even when the speaker volume knob is low?

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With active speakers, you are likely going to need something in between the TT and speakers to control the volume, assuming there is no volume control on the turntable. 
 

A cheap amp with the right cables and connectors could do the job. Something like this maybe but there’s loads of options. 

 

Behringer HA400 Microamp 4 Channel Stereo Headphone Amplifier https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000KIPT30/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_TYSZ9HWZG4W73F58GSC1


Edit: The people reviewing the tt/speaker combo on Amazon don’t seem to have your issue. I wonder if the volume knob on your speaker is busted? Does it get even louder than on the lowest setting? 

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The speakers have a volume knob, you can see it in the Amazon pictures. 
 

It does sound as if speakers are faulty. The phone shows the same issue as the turntable. 
 

Tell Amazon it’s faulty and get them to replace the whole lot looks like the best bet. 

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I can see the volume knob but I have a pair of JBL active monitors that would still be really loud at their lowest volume setting. I use a headphone amp or audio interface to control the volume. 
 

In this case, I think it is a faulty speaker unit though. 

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5 minutes ago, Welrain said:

can you recommend the audio interface you use?  Its annoying the volume is on the back of the speakers.

 

Yeah absolutely, and with my monitors, each one has it's own volume control which is a pain so best to set them at the same level and use a volume control on the desk. 

 

Most of the ones I use are USB driven and are overkill for your situation because you don't need a DAC or to plug instruments into (I'm assuming). I use either an Axe I/O (mostly for recording guitar), an audio-gd headphone amp or a Schiit Fulla mini headphone amp. The Fulla would do the job for you but it's expensive (£100) and has features you don't need.

 

The Behringer I linked to previously would work but something like this Fostex would do exactly what you need and no more - it also doesn't even need power: https://www.thomann.de/gb/fostex_pc_1_black.htm

 

 

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On 18/09/2021 at 17:49, englishbob said:

Seriously get the 19XL instead, the 35XL's are fucking massive and heavy when full of records!

I did already get the 19XL (well, 2 actually) but thanks for your input. Got them off eBay in the end for about £15 each because I couldn't be arsed going to Ryman.

 

Not done anything with them yet but they seem perfect for my needs. :)

 

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12 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

This is a good Instagram account for fans of ultra rare holy grail records. I feel it needs support as there's no way they can keep up this effort for that many followers.

 

https://www.instagram.com/beyondmintvinyls/


 

Amazing! What’s up with Lynneguine’s Costa Rica though? Clearly a rip off of Anneka’s Japanese Boy, time for her to #lawyerup.

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What does everyone use for cleaning records? There seem to be many options ranging from a cloth and some liquid to super expensive fully automated kits. Would something like this work well? 

 

Also, is it a good idea to clean new records? Does it make them more resistant to static?

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2 hours ago, Sane said:

What does everyone use for cleaning records? There seem to be many options ranging from a cloth and some liquid to super expensive fully automated kits. Would something like this work well? 

 

Also, is it a good idea to clean new records? Does it make them more resistant to static?


Looks like a more modern trendier take on the Disco Anti-stat, if so it does the job very well and is essential if you buy a lot of second hand records. Use a mixer of: 

 

1/5 isopropyl alcohol

4/5 distilled water

Few of drops of a surfactant like Triton

 

Have many records which I picked up which were drowning in surface noise be completely brought back to life using that mixture in the anti-stat cleaner. 

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On 29/09/2021 at 14:40, Sane said:

What does everyone use for cleaning records? There seem to be many options ranging from a cloth and some liquid to super expensive fully automated kits. Would something like this work well? 

 

Also, is it a good idea to clean new records? Does it make them more resistant to static?

 

I'm sure some people will throw their hands up in horror, but I just tend to dunk the dirty ones in the sink and clean with a micro fibre cloth and washing up liquid. Always come out sounding much better than when they went in.

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I just bought my first new vinyl album for many years. Relatively recent release (last few months). It's pretty warped. Nothing to distort the sound as far as I can tell but the arm is on a bit of a roller-coaster ride. Is this rare or fairly common? For some reason I was expecting better quality than 30 years ago but if anything its worse. Maybe just bad luck? 

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1 hour ago, MagicalDrop said:

I just bought my first new vinyl album for many years. Relatively recent release (last few months). It's pretty warped. Nothing to distort the sound as far as I can tell but the arm is on a bit of a roller-coaster ride. Is this rare or fairly common? For some reason I was expecting better quality than 30 years ago but if anything its worse. Maybe just bad luck? 

 

My quality control got better once I ditched my Rega RP3 with its glass platter and went for the Technics. I swear the glass platter was the problem, a lot of warped records I had aren't really that bad on the Technics

 

I'd say look up your title on Discogs and see if others report the same thing. If they don't get it swapped. If they do, a refund would probably be better if you can't live with it. 

 

Vinyl isn't perfect of course, but large scale warps and off centre pressings should be thrown back

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Thanks - can't see any comments on Discogs, audio is fine and return by mail is a bit of a hassle so I'll live with it. I've several hundred albums stored in a damp garage over a few decades and none of them are like this. Hopefully the next few on order will restore the faith. 

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I usually check on discogs before buying to get an idea. If there's big issues people will usually mention it there. Unfortunately there's a lot of labels with poor quality control so it pays to not buy stuff completely blind. Also beware cheap releases of older music from unknown labels, you can buy Miles Davis' Kind of blue for a tenner on amazon but there's a good chance the sound quality will be mediocre and/or there will be problems with warped or otherwise damaged vinyl.

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4 hours ago, Sane said:

I usually check on discogs before buying to get an idea. If there's big issues people will usually mention it there. Unfortunately there's a lot of labels with poor quality control so it pays to not buy stuff completely blind. Also beware cheap releases of older music from unknown labels, you can buy Miles Davis' Kind of blue for a tenner on amazon but there's a good chance the sound quality will be mediocre and/or there will be problems with warped or otherwise damaged vinyl.

I don't think cost is a reliable indicator of quality. Kind of Blue is cheap because it's out of copyright. 

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I don't think that's entirely true. Kind of Blue and lots of the Blue Note catalogue from that era could be argued is sort of out of copyright in Europe, but I think I read once that is disputed and it's actually 2054 when it becomes public domain. In any case it's definitely not OK in America and it's illegal to import those copies, but it's not really enforced. The vast majority of these issues seem to be done by a company called DOL who are just a dreadful pressing plant in Russia, knocking out flimsy bootleg copies of popular albums from CD rips, low bit rate downloads or straight from vinyl recordings. They're legally dubious and sound appalling. I bought a few as a skint student from Fopp and they've all been moved on – they're copies to say you own a copy, not to listen to in my opinion.

 

Owning that catalogue is tricky as ideally you want original pressings but they're hundreds now. Second best is the 70s Japanese reissues, then Music on Vinyl then after that it's a lottery.

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38 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

Owning that catalogue is tricky as ideally you want original pressings but they're hundreds now. Second best is the 70s Japanese reissues, then Music on Vinyl then after that it's a lottery.

 

I think modern reissues on the original labels are perfectly fine. I'm happy with Sony/Colombia's Miles re-releases; the Blue Note Classic and Tone Poet series, the Coltrane re-releases on Impulse and the Coltrane Rhino/Atlantic re-releases for instance.

 

You can get a modern Columbia re-release of Kind of Blue for £15.

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I'm not sure there actually are any pressing plants in Russia, are there? IIRC DOL are sort of a sister label to the older and equally awful/legally dubious Vinyl Lovers and Lilith. All of them specialise in pressing up whatever they think they can get away with from CD sources, pressed up as cheaply as possible - usually at GZ in the Czech Republic.

 

The current Blue Note pressings done by Kevin Gray have had various problems (tape/mastering issues and being affected more than most by current horrendous quality control that makes every purchase a massive roll of the dice) but if you get a good one they're excellent and a godsend for us in the UK who've been starved of decent issues of the Blue Note catalogue basically forever. The old Japanese Kings are definitely the next best option but have always been a pain to get hold of here with import duty etc. and have become much more expensive than they were.

 

Speaking of those, anyone who waves away QC complaints with stuff like 'vinyl is an imperfect medium so we can't demand better' should buy some of those old Japanese pressings. I've never seen a single one that wasn't perfectly flat, perfectly centred and completely free of non-fill. Quality vinyl manufacturing was a solved problem for them decades ago.

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