The worst rock bands ever

[Lovelyman]

Sunn use very low end frequencies and the slowest death metal riffs you'll ever hear. They're amazing. See also Burning Witch and Khanate.

It's metal pushed to extremes but it's pretty knowing and sonically challenging/innovative.

Ok, Burning Witch were (blackened doom) metal (and Goatsnake, for a more melodic bluesy band with common members).

But SunnO))) are nothing metal. They play a weird drone/noise post music thing that is frankly some guys in a room with downtuned guitars noodling. And Khanate are like a dark ambient band whose instruments happen to be feedback and a screechy voice instead of synths. No riffs at all. Especially not death metal. And their records are unlistenable shit, they only work live. And they dress up in robes and pretend to be monks. So no posturing or pretence then.

Cool hipster metal bro.

[88h88]

Has anyone mentioned the Darkness yet? Were they meant to be a real band or a ironic/comedy band? They were definetely a fucking atrocious band.

Came to post this. Darkness are fucking terrible wankrock.

[cerseis eyebrows]

Yes Davros has terrible taste. Everything he said about DSOTM is just all kinds of wrong. Great production value? Yes. But who fucking cares about that. A cohesive whole? Well yeah it's pretty cohesive in being flat, gutless piece of shite in which everything melds together in one dull brown whole and every track uses the same two chords (and not even in an exciting way) and the only thing that stands out is 'Money'. I like prog and actually may prefer it to punk. But Floyd didn't do anything innovative after Syd left. A gimmicky, spineless Tangerine Dream.

Here have my glowing review of it from somewhere else;

Argh. I don’t get it. I mean it’s not the worst album I’ve ever heard but its worship winds me up. How come normally hip, intelligent and right minded music fans end up getting all moist for this shite? This plodding, joyless, faux whimsical, white, grooveless thing is ‘progressive’ in the same way that Chris Martin thinks Coldplay are progressive. And yes I am comparing Floyd with Coldplay, with their useless BIG ideas and witless, vague platitudes about death and time and some cunt mewling away over bank clerk guitar solos. I blame it on Dad. Yes Dad the lapsed hippy who wasn’t quite cool enough to actually get off his arse and rebel or drop acid, Dad now leader of the office sales department telling everyone in ear shot “Ahh they don’t make music like that anymore”. This is usually perpetuated by the aging, white, male, middleclass bores who chuck together their nice little Top 100 Albums Of Time lists for Mojo or Rolling Stone, telling the kids where it’s at. Well listen up kids; turn it off, open up your ears and I’m sure you’ll find that you downloaded a better LP last week than this tripe. 1/5

[Davros sock drawer]

An appraisal so spectacularly ignorant it even makes my knee jerk appraisal of punk look well thought out (Hawkeye started it sir!). Well done!

I quite enjoy these music thread bust ups.

[Gorf King]

Course I have. How I could I not, when old punk bores such as yourselves have gone on, and on, and on about it ever since. YAWN!

And yes, yes, yes, precisely - you do have to have been there. And given that I wasn't (born in '74), what has the original punk stuff got to offer me? The Stranglers excepted as they could play. Extended keyboard solos yay!

Still, I have "The worst musical taste of anyone you've ever encountered" so what do I know?

"Doo doo doo Aznavour...", great tune.

I think it's your attack on the movement and all its fans as 'moronic', and the music as 'hate-filled' that shows you simply haven't understood it or just haven't actually heard any, or listened to it properly. I can think of little music with more wit, intelligence and passion - and love - than some of the best stuff that was done in the punk era (which is a broad church, and DIY can mean more than three chords - it's about taking what you've got, whatever that is - could be three chords, could be twenty - and doing whatever you like with it instead of conforming to some 70s archetype). I just don't think you get it at all.

As to being there, you may have a point. I well remember sitting in the cinema sometime in the late 70s watching The Song Remains The Same. A group I used to like, Zeppelin, despite their obvious limitations and decline (and even went on to see in 79 at Knebworth). But that film wasn't untypical of what a lot of established groups were doing in those days: crawling entirely up their own arses; the film was and is an embarrassing spectacle, genuinely devoid of intelligence or warmth; hopelessly narcissistic; overly long, dull shows of 'virtuosity' taking the place of actual music. The 'ideas' displayed in those laughable fantasy sequences were a stern warning about what could happen when a once-popular art form took itself far too seriously and decided it was a lot cleverer than it really was. It was turgid, dumb, embarrassingly bereft of wit or style; it was plain ugly in parts, a real turn-off. The contrast between pretentious guff like that and the clever three-minute explosions of passion and pop that were just surfacing from the new wave just couldn't be greater.

As for going on and on about punk, I don't think I have, nor does anyone much on here as far as I can see. You certainly never used to listen to the old rllmukFM show, because if you had you'd know that about 97% of what used to get played and talked about wasn't punk.

Wrong thread for this, and de gustibus non est disputandum in any case. But that could apply to the whole folder really. I think something about taste is only really worthy of reply and criticism when it's so ridiculous that it's lolworthy, like your hate-filled post about the whole of the punk movement being for morons. Imagine a post that condemns the whole of hip-hop as being hate-filled and all its fans as morons. It's truly embarrassing stuff, Davros. A genuinely, authentically stupid post.

[Oh Danny Boy]

True, one disparaged an entire sub-genre along with its cultural importance and fan base...but then again, the other started a thread entitled 'the worst rock bands ever' and yet by his third post, defended a Nickleback song.

It's a hard call, is all I'm saying.

what? Slander! I never defended a nickelback song

[cerseis eyebrows]

An appraisal so spectacularly ignorant it even makes my knee jerk appraisal of punk look well thought out (Hawkeye started it sir!). Well done!

I quite enjoy these music thread bust ups.

You say ignorant i say experience.

[cerseis eyebrows]

Davros probably thinks punk is about angry dudes with mohowks and safety pins, spitting and swearing and cradling swastikas for a rise.

[Davros sock drawer]

I was just lashing out Gorf, you must know that by now. Hawkeye makes me go to the Dark Side occasionally (I'll never forget the stuff he said about Winehouse) that's all. It's sweet how quickly you responded to the Gorf Symbol though ("Davros is talking shit you say? To the Gorfmobile!")

[Stanley]

Ok, Burning Witch were (blackened doom) metal (and Goatsnake, for a more melodic bluesy band with common members).

But SunnO))) are nothing metal. They play a weird drone/noise post music thing that is frankly some guys in a room with downtuned guitars noodling. And Khanate are like a dark ambient band whose instruments happen to be feedback and a screechy voice instead of synths. No riffs at all. Especially not death metal. And their records are unlistenable shit, they only work live. And they dress up in robes and pretend to be monks. So no posturing or pretence then.

Cool hipster metal bro.

Ive seen Sunn numerous times and there are indeed riffs, just played very very slowly. They are also incredible.

Their records are great too, but you need a decent setup to appreciate them properly. I'd suggest White One as a jumping off point.

And yes, they pose, they wear monks robes ffs.

[Kelthink]

Rhys Ifans band 'the Peth', words cannot describe..... this is what happens when actors get delusions of being rock n' roll stars:

Rhys was in Super Furry Animals for a bit, y'know. Like, well before he got big acting. Other debunks:

-The Darkness are a fucking hoot live, they really put on a show. They reformed last year and have definitely still got it, if you hate it I'll call you a humourless tit

-Dismissing entire genres (in this thread - punk & metal) is fucking stupid since they can encompass a shit load of music. Unless you're boring

-U2 are still terrible

-Rush can sod off too, those Ayn Randian lyrics are just too much

[Mr Cochese]

Punk Versus Pink Floyd. It's like the last thirty years never happened.

[Girth Certificate]

also Space, and Interpol, they can fuck off aswell

[Oh Danny Boy]

You have the worst musical taste of anyone I've ever encountered. And that includes Oh Danny Boy.

Pffft....i've got a good taste in music, although the bands i listen to are usually heavily blues or punk based so if you're not a fan of those you might think so. I also share Hawkeye's despair of 70's/80's rock/hair rock, i find it very wanky and self indulgent. Thank god for punk, the music scene at the moment needs a similar boot up the backside. I like listening to the blues; muddy waters and howling wolf, although i've barely scraped it, delving deep into the 50's blues scene is something i have to do one day, i love the 60's music scene, not a fan of the beatles but love the kinks, small faces etc, i love southern rock, punk and when punk fused with indie in the 80's and created some awesome music. At the moment i'm listening heavily to Dead Moon, The Gits, The Rats and The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion.

Back on topic:

Son of Dork featuring one of the dorks from Busted, its so bad i just can't listen to the whole thing without wanting to smash my laptop's screen in

[Oh Danny Boy]

Rhys was in Super Furry Animals for a bit, y'know. Like, well before he got big acting. Other debunks:

by the sounds of it acting was the better choice

also Space, and Interpol, they can fuck off aswell

i have an Interpol album, i bought it because everyone was raving about how amazing they are, it leaves me cold, i'm wondering if i am missing anything

[Davros sock drawer]

I like Interpol's first two albums, but I can understand why someone wouldn't. This track is one of my favourites:

The Joy Division rip-off claims have some validity (particularly the first album), but hey I love Joy Division and everyone rips off everyone else so who cares.

[cerseis eyebrows]

Everyone does rip off everyone to an extent. But when you don't or can't implement your own unique identity or character into your music too, then I start to care.

[Davros sock drawer]

Well I think Interpol did anyway.

On a similar note, one band I've always found rather awful are the New York Dolls:

I mean, he's practically doing an impersonation of Jagger! But then I've only really seen a couple of these sorts of TV clips of them.

[whizzo]

Well I think Interpol did anyway.

On a similar note, one band I've always found rather awful are the New York Dolls:

I mean, he's practically doing an impersonation of Jagger! But then I've only really seen a couple of these sorts of TV clips of them.

Yeah but they were massively influentual to the Pun......Oh.

[Oh Danny Boy]

If you don't like punk you won't like the New York Dolls, but if you do you'll realise that they are fuckin' amazing!

[88h88]

-The Darkness are a fucking hoot live, they really put on a show. They reformed last year and have definitely still got it, if you hate it I'll call you a humourless tit

Mindless Self Indulgence are also a hoot live but they're still shit like The Darkness...

[Davros sock drawer]

^{Well, you know. I do like some punk.}

[Hawkeye]

New York Dolls are great. I saw them touring last year.

[NecroMorrius]

I don't really like punk, but my God was it necessary.

Also I think this is simultanteously the best and worst rock performance ever captured on film

[Stanley]

Inderpol ripped off Television as much as Joy Division if not way more.

[Davros sock drawer]

Again though, I love Television. Haven't listened to Marquee Moon in ages, might have to bust that out tonight.

[Oh Danny Boy]

Baby shambles, just god awful, one of the worst bands of the past decade for sure, the worst thing is their fans which are numerous and each believe Pete Doherty to be some sort of misunderstood poet and great musical genius of the times. They annoy me.

Which reminds me i had a thing with a girl a few years back who was one of Pete Doherty's devoted fans, everything was Pete Doherty is amazing his music is so great etc etc. It was too much and before we even had our first date i couldn't take it any longer and told her that Pete Doherty is a shit musician and a scummy human being and when he finally OD's i'll celebrate by raising a glass. I never did hear from her again, bloody worth it though.

[Davros sock drawer]

Agreed, and I would expand that to include The Libertines.

[Eats hoops and leaves]

Yes Davros has terrible taste. Everything he said about DSOTM is just all kinds of wrong. Great production value? Yes. But who fucking cares about that. A cohesive whole? Well yeah it's pretty cohesive in being flat, gutless piece of shite in which everything melds together in one dull brown whole and every track uses the same two chords (and not even in an exciting way) and the only thing that stands out is 'Money'. I like prog and actually may prefer it to punk. But Floyd didn't do anything innovative after Syd left. A gimmicky, spineless Tangerine Dream.

Here have my glowing review of it from somewhere else;

Argh. I don’t get it. I mean it’s not the worst album I’ve ever heard but its worship winds me up. How come normally hip, intelligent and right minded music fans end up getting all moist for this shite? This plodding, joyless, faux whimsical, white, grooveless thing is ‘progressive’ in the same way that Chris Martin thinks Coldplay are progressive. And yes I am comparing Floyd with Coldplay, with their useless BIG ideas and witless, vague platitudes about death and time and some cunt mewling away over bank clerk guitar solos. I blame it on Dad. Yes Dad the lapsed hippy who wasn’t quite cool enough to actually get off his arse and rebel or drop acid, Dad now leader of the office sales department telling everyone in ear shot “Ahh they don’t make music like that anymore”. This is usually perpetuated by the aging, white, male, middleclass bores who chuck together their nice little Top 100 Albums Of Time lists for Mojo or Rolling Stone, telling the kids where it’s at. Well listen up kids; turn it off, open up your ears and I’m sure you’ll find that you downloaded a better LP last week than this tripe. 1/5

If you think that the stand-out track is 'Money' then... holy shit. Destroy your ears.

[El Geet]

This thread is comedy gold. Coldplay and any other number of groups with some redeeming features = worst band in the world? Punk written off as a genre. You guys cannot be serious.

No accounting for taste but, really? Do people above the age of 14 still hold these extreme views on music?