Xbox One Console Thread

[Kryptonian]

Shame to read from you guys that this new dashboard is a bit shit

[Arn X Treme]

Anyone else having issues with it reading games since the update.

Mine will read dvds but as of this evening has stopped reading games :/

[T Pot]

The snapping just seems odd now. I hope it's just as its changing.

Here's an example. Double tap centre button, scroll to the bottom to select snap, scroll to the bottom to select twitch, select snap (about 25 button presses in so far...)

The main guide is now snapped down the left, twitch is snapped down the right, and the game has about 40% of the screen in the centre.

Anyone else having issues with it reading games since the update.

Mine will read dvds but as of this evening has stopped reading games :/

Nope, but that happened to my launch console. It was a drive failure.

[Yoshimax]

It's almost like it's unfinished software. Wacky.

[TehStu]

Fair play to you guys for trying it in this early state. I did the same for windows 10, but not on my main PC, and so it didn't affect anything.

That said, I like that MS are getting a lot of community feedback on stuff much earlier in the development, these days. If it's anything like win 10 proper, it'll also retain that feedback mechanism after it launches.

[Yoshimax]

They've been doing the feedback loop since not long after launch (screenshots etc) - it'd be good if people in the program took the time to give feedback and suggestions rather than coming here to whine and put others off before they've tried it - I guess for some it's more about being first to have something than going in knowing what the point is it reminds me of when BC hit for preview members and suddenly everybody had to have a shot.

As a counter since the update two nights ago the whole thing has taken a massive step forwards - it's far more robust and several changes have been made to functionality (highlight a friend and press X to invite to party for example - no loading a party app and watching spinning circles). Knowing how MS work it should all come together nicely in the next few weeks (currently they're pushing 2 builds a week as a minimum).

[T Pot]

It's almost like it's unfinished software. Wacky.

If you read properly, you'll notice I said I hope it's due to the change. Hopefully the apps will be updated to sit on the left too. If not, very silly descision.

[HarryBizzle]

They need to have a good look at the PS4 interface. There's no quick guide or anything, but it works because everything is logically laid out and easy to navigate.

It's not even particularly brilliant in and of itself, it just stands out because Xbox keep making theirs so needlessly convoluted.

[Revival]

You don't make things better by being scared to update and improve due to the lack of versatility/vision in your software team.

[Cosmic_Guru]

They need to have a good look at the PS4 interface. There's no quick guide or anything, but it works because everything is logically laid out and easy to navigate.

It's not even particularly brilliant in and of itself, it just stands out because Xbox keep making theirs so needlessly convoluted.

I'm not sure I agree with that, but I admit to being a big user of SmartGlass on tablet to supplement the console experience. For example, I regularly scroll through the activity feed even when not playing anything - it is much more informative and entertaining than the rather jumbled collection of information included in "what's new" tab on PS4.

[Jg15]

Far better last night with the latest dash update in that its quicker and more responsive.

The compare games functionality in achievements has been improved as it only lists games that you and the person you are comparing with have played.

The social bit is slowly coming together and I'm liking how you can see where they are looking at adding new functionality in the next update.

[Petrousgyre]

it'd be good if people in the program took the time to give feedback and suggestions rather than coming here to whine and put others off before they've tried it.

You'd rather people didn't comment (sorry, whine) about the Xbox OS in the Xbox thread so that other users aren't put off what is clearly an unreliable beta? This seems in stark contrast to your previous thoughts on the matter:

Godspeed anybody brave/stupid enough to "beta test" the firmware

[Guest]

You'd rather people didn't comment (sorry, whine) about the Xbox OS in the Xbox thread so that other users aren't put off what is clearly an unreliable beta? This seems in stark contrast to your previous thoughts on the matter:

It is a very early beta, at that. The normal Preview Program OS is rock solid.

Saying this twice weekly updated beta OS is going to be unreliable this early on is like saying water will be wet.

[Yoshimax]

You'd rather people didn't comment (sorry, whine) about the Xbox OS in the Xbox thread so that other users aren't put off what is clearly an unreliable beta? This seems in stark contrast to your previous thoughts on the matter:

Comment was from the ps4 thread related to 3.0 and yes I stand by it. A poor effort even by your standards.

[Boozy The Clown]

[BitterToad]

I think it's pretty reasonable people saying the dash sucks if it does... If it improves down the line I'd imagine people would correct their posts.

It's put me off of downloading the preview, which, if it stops any funny business come Halo day, can only be a good thing.

[Petrousgyre]

Comment was from the ps4 thread related to 3.0 and yes I stand by it. A poor effort even by your standards.

Intentionally of course, it's not difficult highlighting your absurd bias. FYI, the PS4 beta has been pretty stable by all accounts wheras the One beta has been a bit of a mess - this won't come as much of a surprise to those of us who own both consoles and don't have a bizarre allegiance to one box of electronics over another. The PS4's OS has been mostly solid, by contrast I've never had more OS level issues with a console than I have with the Bone - and I'm not on any beta program.

[Clipper]

this won't come as much of a surprise to those of us who own both consoles and don't have a bizarre allegiance to one box of electronics over another. The PS4's OS has been mostly solid, by contrast I've never had more OS level issues with a console than I have with the Bone - and I'm not on any beta program.

I also own both with no bizarre allegiances. And for me the Xbox One's OS is better and easier to use than the PS4's. The stability for me is identical as I haven't had stability issues on either machine. I was PS4 exclusive for the first year and the OS is the the PS4's worst feature, in most other stuff (PSN excepted) it is fantastic but I dislike the OS with all its menus from menus , reminds me of xmb which still gives me nightmares (it isnt as bad as xmb I hasten to add!).

Its as if it could be a matter of opinion!

As for beta OS? I briefly toyed with the idea to get early access to backward compatibility on Xbox One but on the whole I'd rather avoid being an unpaid beta tester on either machine.

[HarryBizzle]

The XMB actually won design awards. What didn't you like about it? I thought it was great. Everything logically spread out and quick to navigate.

There's bits of the PS4 OS that are bad - the activity stream is just noise and the settings menus are poor, with things being squirreled away in odd places, but overall, navigation is easy. You've got all your games and apps on one row and then everything else is on another.

I spent quite a long time just trying to find the settings app when I first got my Xbox.

I think my biggest issue with the NXOE is that it was supposed to be a total overhaul but in practice it honestly just feels like a reskin.

[Scribblor]

i feel the same and have suggested as such to them, all i can advise is that you suggest it to them,

also in the preview dashboard app you can click feature request and request it there. (if microsoft 'edge' would work..) the more people the merrier and the more likely they are to listen or you can do it here -

https://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251646-apps/suggestions/8477182-netflix-needs-to-be-added-to-oneguide

it has been mentioned a few times in the Live TV section to include netflix and HBO and stuff, but has a low amount of votes.

edit:

as it turns out you can already do this, but barely.

you go to oneguide, press start and go down to app channels then click on amazon instant video and you can favourite each of their categories and then it'll show up when you go down to app channels in the future. amazon prime has 3 channels - most popular films, most popular TV and newly added films

cant see the same option for netflix or nowtv or anything, i can only see amazon prime, youtube and xbox video

Cheers for that. I voted, and then I checked out the OneGuide again on the new update. It's already better, but only a bit, and in a weird way. I can now add channels from NFL and YouTube, which should be brilliant. But NFL only has one channel: NFL Now, and YouTube only has three: Justina Bieber, Play Doh Surprise, and LittleBabyBum. But they're just YouTube users that you can subscribe to, so far as I can tell. The last of those has a bunch of pirated Peppa Pig episodes on there, so I can't imagine it's a curated suggestion. Why can I only choose those three? Shouldn't I be able to choose from any uploaders on YouTube, and any channels on NFL? Presumably that's the way this is headed though.

Wait! I've just gone back into the 'app channels' section and there are loads of apps to choose from! No idea why they're there now and they weren't a couple of minutes ago. And unfortunately when I select one, I then get taken to the Providers screen where there are only Microsoft, YouTube and NFL.

It's definitely improving though.

[Hardbattle]

The new dash seems to have screwed with Elite Dangerous. The game loads, but as soon as you launch to space, you can see your ships dashboard, but everything is frozen

[Scribblor]

The XMB actually won design awards. What didn't you like about it? I thought it was great. Everything logically spread out and quick to navigate.

There's bits of the PS4 OS that are bad - the activity stream is just noise and the settings menus are poor, with things being squirreled away in odd places, but overall, navigation is easy. You've got all your games and apps on one row and then everything else is on another.

I spent quite a long time just trying to find the settings app when I first got my Xbox.

I think my biggest issue with the NXOE is that it was supposed to be a total overhaul but in practice it honestly just feels like a reskin.

I really didn't like the XMB. It just felt messy and unrefined to me. I liked the Xbox One's original dash though, so what do I know?

Agree completely about the new one feeling like a reskin though. I'm disappointed in that too.

[Petrousgyre]

I also own both with no bizarre allegiances. And for me the Xbox One's OS is better and easier to use than the PS4's.

Usabilty is one thing, and for what it's worth I think both machines have strengths and weaknesses, I like the speed and simplicity of the PS4 but I like the way you can customise the Bone with pins and so forth - as you say it's rather subjective. My point was rather one of stability. If your Bone has been as stable as your PS4 then you're a lucky man as far as I can work out, I've had issues with the controller not starting the console, or simply not syncing, with voice commands being unrecognisable, with the Kinect working sporadically, suspend/resume working unreliably and, most damningly, I've lost count how many times I've had to pull the power cable out in order to recover from an OS crash. From reading this thread these don't seem to be isolated issues by any stretch of the imagination.

On that basis it seems ludicrous to describe people who have opted to try the PS4 beta as "stupid" whereas those who tried the Bone beta and run into serious issues should just shut the fuck up and expend their energy giving Microsoft detailed feedback, rather than having the temerity to discuss specific issues with a console in a thread on a gaming forum dedicated to discussing that console. I guess my issue is a broader one, the hysterical knee-jerk reaction by a small handful to anyone remotely critical of MS stifles meaningful conversation in this thread which is a shame.

[BitterToad]

Usabilty is one thing, and for what it's worth I think both machines have strengths and weaknesses, I like the speed and simplicity of the PS4 but I like the way you can customise the Bone with pins and so forth - as you say it's rather subjective. My point was rather one of stability. If your Bone has been as stable as your PS4 then you're a lucky man as far as I can work out, I've had issues with the controller not starting the console, or simply not syncing, with voice commands being unrecognisable, with the Kinect working sporadically, suspend/resume working unreliably and, most damningly, I've lost count how many times I've had to pull the power cable out in order to recover from an OS crash. From reading this thread these don't seem to be isolated issues by any stretch of the imagination.

On that basis it seems ludicrous to describe people who have opted to try the PS4 beta as "stupid" whereas those who tried the Bone beta and run into serious issues should just shut the fuck up and expend their energy giving Microsoft a detailed feedback, rather than having the temerity to discuss specific issues with a console in a thread on a gaming forum dedicated to discussing that console. I guess my issue is a broader one, the hysterical knee-jerk reaction by a small handful to anyone remotely critical of MS stifles meaningful conversation in this thread which is a shame.

I have had pretty much no issues with my Bone since getting it just over a year ago. My housemate's PS4 is the same (although it is loud and for dicks). This generation actually seems pretty solid hardware wise. Have you thought about replacing yours? If you're having that many issues I think it may be the console itself.

There are a few people on this forum who will defend MS to the hilt, as there are who jump on that and use it as defense when you have a go at Sony.

Consoles man, just be above it.

[Bojangle]

Only positive comments in the thread please chaps, gotta keep that echo chamber going.

[Don Wiskerando]

De Worst more like.

[Kiwi Cake]

The dashboard continues to improve in terms of stability, but the more I use it the more disappointed I am in the actual "changes" they've made. As noted above, it feels like a reskin.

If you liked the original dash you'll probably be fine as it is noticeably quicker, but if you didn't like it (like me) this doesn't help at all. In fact I might go as far as to say that it's worse. I'll continue to provide feedback, as I am amazingly capable of both posting in this thread AND providing feedback to MS, but it seems like they've picked a design direction and it's just not what I was hoping for.

[Trokie]

The new dash seems to have screwed with Elite Dangerous. The game loads, but as soon as you launch to space, you can see your ships dashboard, but everything is frozen

I had this problem and in the end i deleted my save and retried it, still the same problem. I then went back to default controls and this cured it, so try that approach first.

[TehStu]

In retrospect, it would have been useful to have all the new dash feedback in its own thread.

[Superunknown]

So, randomly disconnecting controllers. Is this a thing for anyone else? I've updated the firmware before anyone suggests it

It's entirely random, and not specific to any particular games. I'll get a pop-up in-game saying the controller is disconnected. Except it isn't - the Xbox light is still white and a second later when I press A to dismiss the message it magically works again. It's been happening for a couple of months on and off and whilst I've mostly been lucky with it happening in menus or lobbies, it's occasionally screwed me over during Gears multi.