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Streaming to my MacBook Pro causes it to heat up so much I can barely touch it. Is this normal or are my fans fucked in Boot Camp mode?

Also, I don't have a Win 10 product code - am I going to get locked out after 30 days? I've not had Windows since '95.

Things rings a bell - I seem to recall something about my old MBP (it was a 2009 though... not sure how old yours is?) and Bootcamp'd Windows not being able to intelligently manage the fans the same way that OS X does.

I never really used Bootcamp much so never really looked into fixing it, but try googling Fan Control Bootcamp :)

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Anybody managed to get the hidden high setting working for Streaming on Windows10? I made the change and it didn't show the extra setting so I've changed IsInternal to true and isPublic to false but still no dice.

Thought I'd take a minute to answer this as I had the same problem.

1. Don't change isPublic, you don't need to mess with it.

2. Open the Xbox App and start streaming.

3. Click the top right icon that looks a bit like ((o)) Set it to Medium, then set it back to high. This should recreate the config file.

4. Close the stream and Xbox App.

5. Open C:Users%USERNAME%AppDataLocalPackages

6. Find folder starting with "Microsoft.XboxApp".

7. Open Localstate directory within #6

8. Open "userconsoledata' file using any text editor such as Windows Notepad.
9. Set the "IsInternalPreview' variable to "true", from "false".
10 Save and close the file
11.Open the xbox app and start streaming, when you click the top right ((o)) icon 'very high' should now be available in the list.

Absolutely love this streaming functionality works amazing even on very high for me using homeplugs

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As Wiper mentioned the PS4 lets you power down from rest mode by holding down the power button. If I understand you, you just power off your xbox one at the wall without shutting it down at all - is that sensible?

Nope I'm obviously not explaining myself very well. If I push the power button on the xbox it puts it into standby mode. I can then safely turn it off at the plug. If you put the ps4 into standby then you have to actually shut it down before you can turn it off.

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I bought 'The Bridge' today.

Buy 'The Bridge'.

I bought The Bridge months ago on Steam.

Don't buy The Bridge.

In other news, what is the issue with turning your consoles off at the wall without properly shutting down? I have a pay as you go electric meter and I regularly forget to top it up when it is near ending, so the electric goes out in our house maybe once a month. Xbox, PC, all sorts still running. Are you telling me that this is affecting it some how? I generally leave all the plugs in the house switched on at night.

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Nope I'm obviously not explaining myself very well. If I push the power button on the xbox it puts it into standby mode. I can then safely turn it off at the plug. If you put the ps4 into standby then you have to actually shut it down before you can turn it off.

I see. My understanding is you're not meant to do that with the Xbox, if you're in instant-in mode you're meant to press and hold the power button to initiate a full shut down then turn off at the wall. The PS4 works identically in this regard. That you don't see a database rebuilding on Xbox when you switch it back on doesn't mean the OS is any happier - were it downloading or patching a game in instant-on mode you'd risk corrupting a game or worse.

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Citation needed.

This whole "turn off at the wall debate" stinks of the same scare mongering that surrounded turning on a cartridge based console when no cartridge was in it! :o Oh the horror!

Anecdotally, all of my consoles in my current house have been hit with the electric going off numerous times and there has never been a problem with any of them.

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This reminds me of Computer Club at school in the early 90s, where one boy was responsible for the super serious task of "parking" the network of RM Nimbuses at the end of each day.

As for Xbox/PS4... it probably doesn't cause much harm if you knock out the power, the OS just grumbles afterwards. You might have a corrupted download, or you might have corrupted memory. You almost certainly don't, but you might. Everyone gets powercuts sometimes (it can be like the 1970s up here, we're on a bloody "boil your water" alert right now).

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Nope I'm obviously not explaining myself very well. If I push the power button on the xbox it puts it into standby mode. I can then safely turn it off at the plug. If you put the ps4 into standby then you have to actually shut it down before you can turn it off.

Except you, er, can't, not completely safely. Not if it's in instant on mode.

I see. My understanding is you're not meant to do that with the Xbox, if you're in instant-in mode you're meant to press and hold the power button to initiate a full shut down then turn off at the wall. The PS4 works identically in this regard. That you don't see a database rebuilding on Xbox when you switch it back on doesn't mean the OS is any happier - were it downloading or patching a game in instant-on mode you'd risk corrupting a game or worse.

Yep.

Database rebuild?

There's no harm pulling the plug when it's in standby it's the equivalent of the battery running out on your laptop whilst it's running torrent software.

Except that laptops tend to measure their own power and enter a forced shutdown before the power runs out, allowing activities to cease relatively safely.

Citation needed.

This whole "turn off at the wall debate" stinks of the same scare mongering that surrounded turning on a cartridge based console when no cartridge was in it! :o Oh the horror!

Anecdotally, all of my consoles in my current house have been hit with the electric going off numerous times and there has never been a problem with any of them.

Scaremongering, or the experience of people who've been using machines with volatile storage mediums for years.

An equivalent anecdote: I've dropped several smartphones on the floor over the years, and none of them has developed any problems as an effect of that.

As for Xbox/PS4... it probably doesn't cause much harm if you knock out the power, the OS just grumbles afterwards. You might have a corrupted download, or you might have corrupted memory. You almost certainly don't, but you might. Everyone gets powercuts sometimes (it can be like the 1970s up here, we're on a bloody "boil your water" alert right now).

'Probably' is the operative word.

The likelihood is that the machine will be idling, or maybe downloading a file, in which case it'll probably have to re-download a bit. Of course, it could actually be installing a game/update, in which case the entire install is likely to end up corrupted, necessitating the whole thing be deleted and reinstalled. I'm assuming that the Bone, like the PS4, is sensible enough not to try and install system updates while in standby, as turning it off at the plug while it was doing that could be catastrophic.

But the simplest issue is this: hard-drives don't like being powered off suddenly without shutting down first, particularly if they're being written to at the time, but even if they're effectively idling - they're unlikely to just immediately break, but it doesn't do great things for their lifespan, and repeated such behaviour is likely to lead to bad sectors or full mechanical failure.

It's not the worst risk in the world, but when both the Bone and PS4 have the option to completely shut down from standby by holding in the power button for a few seconds, it's no ordeal to avoid the risk entirely.

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I think Sony actually paid Sky to get the app made for the PS4.

Not content with fucking their own customers over, they have to make everyone else suffer too?

:(

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The fuck happened to this thread?

Unless somebody can cite an example where somebody who owned an xbox one switched it off at the wall while it was in "instant on" mode and suffered some kind of problem then can we move on?

I'm terribly sorry that I don't want people to accidentally risk consigning their Xbox One hard-drives to a premature death because of a misunderstanding of how active standby modes work.

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Not content with fucking their own customers over, they have to make everyone else suffer too?

You're misreading. Paying Sky to make the app doesn't mean paying them not to make it for the Bone. It means Sky wouldn't have done PS4 off their own back.

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