Official Star Wars Thread - May the force be with you

[sandman]

27 minutes ago, AstroBot said:

Did you miss the bit where the FA destroyed the New Republic and took over the galaxy. Quite why 

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The Empire waited in the shadows when they had effectively won still confuses me amongst many many other things.

 

Yeah, but that’s after the movie started. Before that the Republic are in charge. I say it again, surely a resistance is against the incumbent government not a defeated former dictatorship. 

[kensei]

1 hour ago, sandman said:

Yeah, but that’s after the movie started. Before that the Republic are in charge. I say it again, surely a resistance is against the incumbent government not a defeated former dictatorship. 

 

I need to revise my earlier statement. Rey being good and the clusterfuck around the factions are the two annoying things about TFA. There was a ton of confusion at the time too.

 

Basically Leia disagrees with the policy of the elected government and is leading a paramilitary group. They are probably worried about "caravans" of space mexicans trying to sneak through to the core systems bringing drugs and crime and imperial ideology.

[Phantoon]

The First Order on a meta level is genius. It's a crappy facsimile of The Empire done by fanboys, much like the sequel trilogy is a crappy facsimile of Star Wars, done by fanboys*.

 

The issue is that JJ is terrified of explaining things, because explaining things has the potential of being boring, and so we never work out how big the First Order is, or what's happened in the intervening years, or the fact that's not Coruscant, or indeed anything.

 

*and I'm sure most of that is deliberate. Kylo is a crappy facsimile of Vader who misunderstands the fundamental truth; Vader himself didn't want to be Vader, but he screwed up so badly he had no other choice left.

[sandman]

Well, that’s The Force Awakens watched. It’s such a mediocre movie, kind of the equivalent of a Costa Latte. The whole thing makes no sense and (while they get better in later movies) Driver and Boyega are just terrible. I also reckon Ridley is a complete diva irl. 
 

Ford and Issacs are the only two who come out of this looking good. It’s easily Abrams weakest film for me. 
 

Next up is the film which mustn’t be mentioned. 

[Talvalin]

5 hours ago, sandman said:

I also reckon Ridley is a complete diva irl.

 

What exactly was your basis for this statement?

[Jg15]

On 17/01/2022 at 00:22, Phantoon said:

The First Order on a meta level is genius. It's a crappy facsimile of The Empire done by fanboys, much like the sequel trilogy is a crappy facsimile of Star Wars, done by fanboys*.

 

The issue is that JJ is terrified of explaining things, because explaining things has the potential of being boring, and so we never work out how big the First Order is, or what's happened in the intervening years, or the fact that's not Coruscant, or indeed anything.

 

*and I'm sure most of that is deliberate. Kylo is a crappy facsimile of Vader who misunderstands the fundamental truth; Vader himself didn't want to be Vader, but he screwed up so badly he had no other choice left.

I love the fact that the Pablo Hidalgo Visual Guides really are essential when it comes to the Sequel Trilogy.

 

Previous visual guides gave you nice little tidbits on background aliens and weapons etc. These tell you that Courscant wasn't destroyed by the First Order, it was another planet that looked the same, or that Kylo was killing Vader acolytes on Mustafar at the start of TRoS for the Sith wayfinder. Major events seen on screen but needing a book to explain them.

[Festoon]

11 minutes ago, Jg15 said:

I love the fact that the Pablo Hidalgo Visual Guides really are essential when it comes to the Sequel Trilogy.

 

Previous visual guides gave you nice little tidbits on background aliens and weapons etc. These tell you that Courscant wasn't destroyed by the First Order, it was another planet that looked the same, or that Kylo was killing Vader acolytes on Mustafar at the start of TRoS for the Sith wayfinder. Major events seen on screen but needing a book to explain them.

 

Or, as I call it, terrible writing and direction.

[kensei]

13 hours ago, sandman said:

Well, that’s The Force Awakens watched. It’s such a mediocre movie, kind of the equivalent of a Costa Latte. The whole thing makes no sense and (while they get better in later movies) Driver and Boyega are just terrible. I also reckon Ridley is a complete diva irl. 
 

Ford and Issacs are the only two who come out of this looking good. It’s easily Abrams weakest film for me. 
 

Next up is the film which mustn’t be mentioned. 

 

I really liked Driver and Boyega in the first film. Boyega got a raw deal because they gave him the same story three times.

 

My favourite Star Wars controversy was there was loads of internet noise about a "Black Stormtrooper" pre TFA. I hadn't paid much attention and kept looking for a storm trooper in black armour to see what the fuss was about. None. Did they mean the silver one?

 

It took a while before the penny dropped.

[K]

1 hour ago, Jg15 said:

I love the fact that the Pablo Hidalgo Visual Guides really are essential when it comes to the Sequel Trilogy.

 

Previous visual guides gave you nice little tidbits on background aliens and weapons etc. These tell you that Courscant wasn't destroyed by the First Order, it was another planet that looked the same, or that Kylo was killing Vader acolytes on Mustafar at the start of TRoS for the Sith wayfinder. Major events seen on screen but needing a book to explain them.

 

The latter bit's a nice detail, but hardly essential to the film surely? You don't need to know he's on Mustafar, or that the people he's fighting at Vader cultists. I really enjoyed that opening montage from Rise of Skywalker, with Kylo Ren going from Mustafar, through the mad space whirlpool, and onto Exogol - proper sense of wonder stuff, there are whole worlds being glimpsed momentarily.

[Unofficial Who]

I could stir the pot with my takes on The Last Jedi. Again.

 

Or...

 

...I could point you towards these sweet 4K clips from Star Wars.

 

 

[Phantoon]

4 hours ago, Jg15 said:

Kylo was killing Vader acolytes on Mustafar

What was even the point of that callback? It didn't look vaguely like Mustafar, so why have it? At least the Rogue One callback made vague sense and it still looked identifiable.

[Jg15]

2 hours ago, K said:

 

The latter bit's a nice detail, but hardly essential to the film surely? You don't need to know he's on Mustafar, or that the people he's fighting at Vader cultists. I really enjoyed that opening montage from Rise of Skywalker, with Kylo Ren going from Mustafar, through the mad space whirlpool, and onto Exogol - proper sense of wonder stuff, there are whole worlds being glimpsed momentarily.

I should have made it clear, essential to me!

 

I suppose the point is he fights a bunch of random guys guarding an item (wayfinder) before heading off to Sith world. The details of who and where are window dressing (but cool window dressing all the same).

 

Having rewatched the film recently, knowing more of the background stuff definitely helped me to appreciate it more. It's certainly not a terrible movie and the different locales (Lush Jungle planet, Party Desert Planet, Grey/Dark Sith Planet) all nicely weave together to create a visual feast.

 

Rey Palpatine was dumb though, even if she is effectively the Daughter of a Palp Clone now.

[Sardan]

On 15/01/2022 at 10:04, Jammy said:

Well, that’s an interesting autocorrect !

Isn’t it! 

[Jg15]

4 hours ago, Phantoon said:

What was even the point of that callback? It didn't look vaguely like Mustafar, so why have it? At least the Rogue One callback made vague sense and it still looked identifiable.

I question whether it was originally filmed with the intention of being Mustafar and Hidalgo simply created the connection for the Visual Dictionary (he seems to love linking stuff together).

[Phantoon]

5 minutes ago, Jg15 said:

I question whether it was originally filmed with the intention of being Mustafar and Hidalgo simply created the connection for the Visual Dictionary (he seems to love linking stuff together).

I believe it's because of the events of Vader Immortal (which is a VR game). Vader "heals" Mustafar in that game.

 

So without the Visual Dictionary nobody would've understood it

[K]

I stumbled across this last night while stumbling around the Disney+ app:

 

https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/series/star-wars-galaxy-of-sounds/POXPnpzXj8ZL

 

It's called Galaxy of Sounds, and I was intrigued enough by the description to see what it actually was. It's basically Star Wars ASMR, in that it's a montage of various dialogue-free sequences from the various films and TV series, with ambient sound and no music. The first episode is very slight - it's about 7 minutes long - but I found it really relaxing, and a nice way to see the various landscape and city shots without having to sit through the prequels.

 

I would honestly watch an hour of this, in the style of one of those BBC4 'slow TV' programmes. Some of the shots are beautiful out of context, like the scene of Anakin getting directions from a Jawa with the dramatic music and revenge context removed. I lost a bit of the relaxing quality because my brain wouldn't shut up with the "this is from Solo... this is from Episode II... this is from the special edition of Return of the Jedi...", but found it surprisingly engaging nonetheless.

[Phantoon]

On 18/01/2022 at 13:21, Jg15 said:

It's certainly not a terrible movie

It really is a terrible movie. It's hunt the McGuffin that'll help us find the next McGuffin that'll lead us to the McGuffin, that'll find the Great McGuffin. There's no story whatsoever, then they top it off by making the coolest character in Star Wars (Lando) look like a perv. Nothing makes a jot of sense and everything they add (hyperspace skipping, Force healing, coming back from the dead having exploded twice in five minutes) breaks a previous Star Wars

[SeanR]

12 hours ago, K said:

I stumbled across this last night while stumbling around the Disney+ app:

 

https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/series/star-wars-galaxy-of-sounds/POXPnpzXj8ZL

 

It's called Galaxy of Sounds, and I was intrigued enough by the description to see what it actually was. It's basically Star Wars ASMR, in that it's a montage of various dialogue-free sequences from the various films and TV series, with ambient sound and no music. The first episode is very slight - it's about 7 minutes long - but I found it really relaxing, and a nice way to see the various landscape and city shots without having to sit through the prequels.

 

I would honestly watch an hour of this, in the style of one of those BBC4 'slow TV' programmes. Some of the shots are beautiful out of context, like the scene of Anakin getting directions from a Jawa with the dramatic music and revenge context removed. I lost a bit of the relaxing quality because my brain wouldn't shut up with the "this is from Solo... this is from Episode II... this is from the special edition of Return of the Jedi...", but found it surprisingly engaging nonetheless.

the original theatrical release of Star Wars only had 27 minutes of dialogue. 

[Unofficial Who]

So some of you might have not watched the Book of Boba Fett. Or some of you might have gotten to Episode 3 and thought "wow, no thanks."

 

If you're a longstanding Star Wars fan it's worth watching just for Episodes 5 and 6. This isn't a "it gets good after 50 hours" thing.

 

Try to avoid spoilers, hell skip ahead to ep 5-6, they're almost bottle episodes. It's probably the best Star Wars movie/tv content we've had in years.

[womblingfree]

[womblingfree]

3 hours ago, Unofficial Who said:

So some of you might have not watched the Book of Boba Fett. Or some of you might have gotten to Episode 3 and thought "wow, no thanks."

 

If you're a longstanding Star Wars fan it's worth watching just for Episodes 5 and 6. This isn't a "it gets good after 50 hours" thing.

 

Try to avoid spoilers, hell skip ahead to ep 5-6, they're almost bottle episodes. It's probably the best Star Wars movie/tv content we've had in years.

I thought Episode 2 was brilliant, with 4 close behind. I enjoyed 3 as well. Only the weirdly cobbled together first episode I had issues with as it seemed to have been put together to stretch out the series to 7 episodes. Very odd to have filler as a first episode.

[Matt Defis]

Thought I'd drop this ini here as well as The Old Republic thread, I seem to be the only person that goes in there.

 

 

[IcEBuRN]

4 hours ago, Matt Defis said:

Thought I'd drop this ini here as well as The Old Republic thread, I seem to be the only person that goes in there.

 

 

Huh. That looks amazing. Is that anything to do with the remaster?

[Jammy]

50 minutes ago, IcEBuRN said:

Huh. That looks amazing. Is that anything to do with the remaster?

No, this is an expansion of the mmorpg which is PC only, sadly. The remaster die next year is of the single-player KOTOR.

[Jg15]

5 hours ago, Matt Defis said:

Thought I'd drop this ini here as well as The Old Republic thread, I seem to be the only person that goes in there.

 

 

Go on Disney you cowards, make this all canon!

[womblingfree]

Sadly no longer canon.

 

 

[wev]

Finished season 2 of The Clone Wars this evening, definitely a huge improvement over the first season. The first season felt like a kids show most of the time, season 2 felt like it was reaching much higher.

[Garwoofoo]

The first half of season 3 is sadly the weakest part of the whole run, you’ve got an incredibly tedious set of Padme episodes coming up. Also, if you’re not using the chronological order guide to watch, be careful, it jumps around all over the place.
 

From about halfway through the season though you are solidly into the good stuff, so you just need to get over this little hump and you’re golden. 

[Mogster]

The chronological order really should just be the default option, especially for the first few seasons. The release order is just bizarre.

[wev]

I'm using release order because I'm lazy and I'm mostly jumping in every few days to binge a few episodes and yeah, it's already jumped about a bit. There's an episode that's basically part of the Clone Wars movie (yes, I watched that and yes, I know) right smack in the middle of the second season and you're treated like you don't know who any of these characters are.