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2 minutes ago, The Bag said:


Those last few episodes of the Clone Wars are some of the best Star Wars moments imo.  As I said before in the thread the music change & sequence in the run up to [spoiler]order 66[/spoiler] is just perfection.

 

I’m watching Rebels now and would recommend it too.  There’s probably a watch list for it too, but I’m enjoying the sillier episodes too.  It’s got a lot more of the daily oppression of living under the empire.

YES. The tone change in clone wars at the end, the soundtrack, it really adds to the impact of what is happening.

 

I'm now checking out rebels off the back of it. It seems a bit janky in comparison, but i'll give it a shot.

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1 hour ago, IcEBuRN said:

YES. The tone change in clone wars at the end, the soundtrack, it really adds to the impact of what is happening.

 

I'm now checking out rebels off the back of it. It seems a bit janky in comparison, but i'll give it a shot.


It takes a bit to get going, but then it starts connecting to the wide picture.

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I think the main problem with TLJ, is that it is trying to throw away everything that came before - in chapter 8 of a 9 chapter book.

 

This would have been fine in a side story, but I think a big part of the divide in the fan base, comes from whether people like that overall story, or just view it as a series of individual films.

 

I imagine Ryan Johnson is the latter. But for people who see it as a saga (and really really dislike the film) this comes across as petulant and arrogant on his part.

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So the impossible has happened. After twenty years of complete hate I quite like the Prequels now. I mean they’re still awful, washed-out, poorly scripted, badly paced, terribly edited and without atmosphere accompanied by some of the worst acting ever committed to film, but I kinda like them now.

 

The enthusiasm of the kids who’ve grown up with them, now in their teens and twenties, who just love Anakin and Obi-Wan and quote and meme them as much as we quoted the OT is quite infectious. I could never quote any of the Prequels before, but now the hammy one-liners have entered my vernacular. So re-watching them was pretty fun with all that on board, and after quite enjoying Clone Wars (seriously abbreviated watch-list mind you) and Rebels, that helped too. 
 

Also, there’s nothing else quite like them. That early on CGI, let’s make a movie entirely on green-screen look, is quite unique. All over the place now, but rarely to this scale and never with such old technology. These are such an epicly camp failure, that their ambition is mind-boggling. Even the vacant looks on the actors faces as they act against nothing at all results in a weird zen-like quality.

 

I’m calling off my decades long campaign to get these de-canonised which I’m sure is a relief to no one but my inner-monologue.

 

The special editions can still get right to fuck though.

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I’ve reassessed them in light of the new trilogy. For all their failures, they’re at least not generic, bland, meaningless garbage like TFA and Rise of Skywalker. 

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We have a recent family tradition of watching a series of movies in the run up to and during Christmas.  To be fair not many series are long enough too fit the bill but Marvel and Harry Potter have previously served us well.  So it's Star Wars this year which has me slightly on edge: what order, which versions, how terrible were the prequels, do we include animated series etc etc.

 

I decided to go chronological so this weekend we watched TPM and AOTC.  I won't dwell on thoughts of the movies themselves it's been done to death BUT fuck me TPM was awful and AOTC was actually much better than I remembered (excruciating love scenes aside).  There's also no denying the ambition in AOTC - some immense scenes and pretty amazing how well they hold up considering nearly 20 years old tech.  (Actors def still getting used to green screen mind.)  Also shows up how small in scale are the latest movies. Setting low expectations probably helps.  What also helped was watching on a new OLED...Disney+ PQ was excellent - never seen lightsabers so bright!

 

So, is it worth watching Clone Wars animated movie?  I'm hearing it's awful.  More importantly, the original trilogy (the ones we're all looking forward to the most).  Which versions should we watch? I love the Dolby Vision that Disney+ is serving up but is it worth hunting down the despecialised editions?

 

TIA

 

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I wouldn't watch the Clone Wars movie as part of a movie run. It's basically just the pilot for the Clone Wars series, and as good as that turned out to be the movie itself isn't great. Even so, unless you're planning to watch the rest of the series as well as part of your run (you might be there a while. :D) I wouldn't include it.

 

I've warmed to the remastered original trilogy a bit. They do fit better with the prequels if you're watching those, in terms of little things like ship sounds and Boba's accent. Some stuff is definitely worse, like Vader's "Nooooooo", the ridiculous Greedo shooting first bit and the HORRENDOUS CGI song and dance in Jedi, but on the flipside they look great and the bad changes are really quite small. 

 

The Despecialised Editions are amazing, but you can definitely tell when they switch to the laserdisc versions and there are obvious inconsistencies with the prequels now.  I'd definitely think about watching them in isolation, but maybe not as part of a complete run.

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I honestly can't watch the special editions, the added bits just completely take me out of the experience and are generally awful. 

The addition of Jabba in ANH is toe curlingly bad but the worst effected film is ROTJ. The opening act of ROTJ is my favourite thing in all of Star Wars but the atmosphere is completely ruined by the awful musical number. Then the ending is ruined by all the extra bits and the fact they replaced the Yub Nub song. 

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I watched the despecialised films fairly recently, and thought they were pretty well done. You can tell when they switch to lower-quality source material, but the new bits stick out a mile in the official versions anyway, so it's inconsistent either way. 

 

I hadn't realised how much they'd changed the death star sequence in the original Star Wars in the special editions. I'd thought they'd just tidied up a couple of shots and introduced that videogame cutscene CGI flyby at the start, but they seem to have changed a considerable amount of it, arguably for the better. I'd forgotten how the original setpiece went, but some of the original model shots are pretty ropey by modern standards - the ships appear to be flying at about two miles an hour in some bits. I can see why they wanted to change it, and some of it looks really good even if the whizzy swooping camera shots don't really fit with the model work.

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I guess we'll stick with what's on Disney+. Although tempted to watch ANH despecialised up to after they leave Tatooine and perhaps ROJ despecialised until after the opening scene and stick it back on for the end.  I say that - prob far too much of a faff.

 

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16 hours ago, Waggo said:

There is a Lego version of The Holiday Special coming to Disney this Christmas.  That has got to be worth a watch in any Pre Christmas family viewing schedule.:D

 

It's up today is it not?

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How The Empire Strikes Back was presented in its US network TV premiere:

 

 

 

People in the replies pointed out that this signal hijacking-themed promotional clip happened on the same day as the real Max Headroom broadcast signal intrusion!

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