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Unrelated, but bugs can sink a game. I remember in Dragon Age 2, Isabella or someone had a skill where you'd have the whole party speed up something like 5% after activating it. Once it ran out, the party would have the 5% speed buff removed. From their base speed.

 

After activating it a handful of times over many hours, I wondered what the hell the deal with the performance was because everyone in my party was moving like they were underwater while the enemies were moving at their usual speed. That took an absurd amount of time for Bioware to fix, and every save it had happened to was unfixable. Tough luck, restart the game if you want to avoid that bug.

 

So yeah. I'll be waiting a long time on this one, I think.

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5 minutes ago, Thor said:

Well aren't you special/lucky? ;)

 

I lost tens of hours of progress because I happened to activate the "Bywaters murders" quest without finishing it. I was too low a level and so at the time I figured I'd go back to it, unbeknownst to me after hours and hours of more play it would fuck up my game to the point where I couldn't continue. This wasn't fixed until someone playing the game, not a CDPR dev/tester, managed to pin it down to that quest, and alerted CDPR - by which time I'd restarted the game and got further than my original save. 

 

Look, I'm really hoping I'll just get to play and enjoy it, with only the odd wonky face or something. But I'm fully expecting the launch of this game to be a colossal clusterfuck. 

 

I really had very little issues with the game, so I guess I was lucky, what can I say? 

 

Either way you should be used to colossal clusterfucks of new releases since you played Skyrim during the launch period. At least with CDPR you know they will fix any issues sooner rather than...never. ;)

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6 minutes ago, Thor said:

Nah, I don't do meltdowns so much these days. Of course, this all hinges on the colour of Night City's sky... 

 

Why do you insist on triggering me so?

 

I can't see no problem with the sky...

 

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6 minutes ago, Talk Show Host said:

Either way you should be used to colossal clusterfucks of new releases since you played Skyrim during the launch period. At least with CDPR you know they will fix any issues sooner rather than...never. ;)

 

Yeah, but he didn't get off the character creation screen for two years, so he only ran into a few dozen bugs.

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25 minutes ago, K said:

 

If that were the case, then surely you would just ask CDPR for another copy? I mean, CDPR probably want the game to be reviewed on the best hardware possible, rather than some random laptop, so it's not like it's in their interest to refuse.

 

I'd imagine but that's two cases I've heard of it happening in the space of an hour so I guess it wasn't that simple.

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1 minute ago, SuperCapes said:

I am pleased reviewers are taking bugs into consideration when it comes to video games these days. I just hope that stands true when reviewing whatever Bioware/Bethesda shovels at us in the coming years. 

 

It won't. None of them are important enough to make a point out of them.

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58 minutes ago, Ry said:

The impressions from Easy Allies made it sound likey dream game. Saying the world building is the best ever in a game and the way the dialogue flows is amazing. 

 

Oh, and the main story cam be completed in 15 hours if that's all you focus on. 

Isn't that every single game they review though?

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Two Youtube channels I trust the opinion of have released reviews, both say in conclusion that its an amazing game, but the bugs are a massive problem which really soured the experience and both reviewers aren't convinced a lot of the issues will be fixed by the day 1 patch. Apparently reviewers got a mid-review patch which fixed a few of the issues, but a lot of bugs persisted.

 

I've been skimming reviews online (trying to avoid story spoilers) and the general concencus seems to be its excellent, although probably not as groundbreaking or 'best game ever' material as we might have hoped. Almost all the reviews do say the world is amazing, its probably the best cyberpunk genre game ever made, and the story is surprisingly good. I'm pretty hyped, I just pray enough of the big bugs will have been quashed to make it at least playable. I ain't waiting until after the xmas hols to play!

 

For anyone who wants to watch the reviews, I'll link rather than embed to not clog up the thread:

 

Yong Yea review

Layman review

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Isn’t there a patch that’s likely to fix a huge amount of the bugs on day one?

 

Either way, this looks amazing. I watched a 50 minute video on Friday night. I know very little about it, but I have Microsoft moon points which will pay for it, so in the basket it goes.
 



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1 minute ago, Lying Cat said:

Obviously, CDPR have said that the current review version is not for benchmarking, but Tom's Hardware have had a bit of a look anyway.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-performance-preview

 

... So unless the Day 1 patch boosts performance a lot, it's looking pretty brutal towards the top end of the scale.

I ended up opting for this on PS4/5 for this reason and praying it can just sustain something solid.

 

Even with a 2080ti I was worried I would have to make sacrifices that sitting at a desk are not worth haha. So couch gamble it is! Please just hold 60 in performance mode PS5... Please...

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3 minutes ago, Alan Stock said:

 

Damn, the reviewer completed the main story in just 15 hours! In other reviews I've skimmed people are barely getting out of the tutorial stuff in 20 hours!

He definitely rushed it to hit the deadline, and makes it sound like a fever dream!

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I know this is a bit sad but i like that the physical version actually comes with a map, a compendium and some other little extras that make it feel that little bit more like a special game. The kind of thing you'd read in the back of the car or on the bus twenty years ago while waiting to get home.

 

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1 minute ago, deerokus said:

He definitely rushed it to hit the deadline, and makes it sound like a fever dream!

 

Yeah. I've just been skimming the IGN review which is actually quite good (although I already managed to spoil myself for some of the game's areas!). The reviewer there points out that although he initially mainlined the story and did it in about 20 hours, he then went back to a previous save and did about 25 hours of side quests which expanded the plot and changed the ending. He said after messing around before the point of no return, he found 7 differerent ways that the story could turn out and 3 different end missions.

 

So basically the onus is on you to go off and consume the side content, of which a portion will affect the main story. This bodes very well for replayability and I've seen multiple reviewers saying they already want to start again as a different character. That's cool, I loved Witcher 3 but I felt no desire to replay it after over 150 hours spent in the world, so I only saw alternate story routes on Youtube. In Cyberpunk it sounds like the experience should be different enough to make multiple playthroughs quite desirable.

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2 hours ago, PK said:

 

They've not mentioned which difficulty they played it on yet, so that might be a big factor in the importance of the RPG elements. 


On Witcher 3 Normal difficulty or lower you can pretty much ignore most of the RPG stuff and just mash the fast attack button, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this was similar unfortunately.

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1 hour ago, Ry said:

The impressions from Easy Allies made it sound likey dream game. Saying the world building is the best ever in a game and the way the dialogue flows is amazing. 

 

Oh, and the main story cam be completed in 15 hours if that's all you focus on. 


Easy Allies hype up every big title way out of proportion. Reviews are the worst part of their output, by a long way. 

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1 minute ago, the_debaser said:


Easy Allies hype every big title up way out of proportion. Reviews are the worst part of their output, by a long way. 

 

He wasn't talking like someone overhyped. He was chilled and specifically said he gave it some time for his views to come out as he didn't want to seem overhyped. 

 

And he didnt totally praise it. 

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7 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

I know this is a bit sad but i like that the physical version actually comes with a map, a compendium and some other little extras that make it feel that little bit more like a special game. The kind of thing you'd read in the back of the car or on the bus twenty years ago while waiting to get home.

 

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State of that shit - what is it? £150?

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3 minutes ago, the_debaser said:


Easy Allies hype every big title up way out of proportion. Reviews are the worst part of their output, by a long way. 

 

I disagree. They have a couple of great reviewers, Ben and Ian in particular.

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Only dipped my toe into the thread but...

 

Seems there was a huge thirst for reviews, then followed by persons called Jeff not rating in and suddenly he's wrong and reviews didn't matter cause you are still getting it.

 

I'm sure it'll turn out decent, but games of this size working day 1? How many times? 

 

Wait until after Xmas to get it

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