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1 hour ago, dug said:

 

A YouTube guy on his channel Emergency Awesome described Bran's role in the show now as the Exposition Potato. Which sums it up perfectly, I think.

 

Also, prediction: it will be revealed that Jon Snow's true name is Aemon Targaryon, purely so that in the scene in the first series/book when Jon realises who Maester Aemon is and says "you're Aemon Targaryon," the viewer will go "Aha! So are you, Jon! OMG, the foreshadowing!"

 

Spoiler regarding something in the second volume of those pulpy things that don't really exist

 

If that's the case, and they are going by the books, then his name would be Aegon



 
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“Viserys, was her first thought the next time she paused, but a second glance told her otherwise. The man had her brother’s hair, but he was taller, and his eyes were a dark indigo rather than lilac. “Aegon,” he said to a woman nursing a newborn babe in a great wooden bed. “What better name for a king?”
“Will you make a song for him?” the woman asked.
“He has a song,” the man replied. “He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire.” He looked up when he said it and his eyes met Dany’s, and it seemed as if he saw her standing there beyond the door. “There must be one more,” he said, though whether he was speaking to her or the woman in the bed she could not say. “The dragon has three heads.” He went to the window seat, picked up a harp, and ran his fingers lightly over its silvery strings. Sweet sadness filled the room as man and wife and babe faded like the morning mist, only the music lingering behind to speed her on her way.”

Excerpt From: George R. R. Martin. “A Clash of Kings.” iBooks. 

 

 

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“Dany could not let it go. “His is the song of ice and fire, my brother said. I’m certain it was my brother. Not Viserys, Rhaegar. He had a harp with silver strings.”
Ser Jorah’s frown deepened until his eyebrows came together. “Prince Rhaegar played such a harp,” he conceded. “You saw him?”
She nodded. “There was a woman in a bed with a babe at her breast. My brother said the babe was the prince that was promised and told her to name him Aegon.”
“Prince Aegon was Rhaegar’s heir by Elia of Dorne,” Ser Jorah said. “But if he was this prince that was promised, the promise was broken along with his skull when the Lannisters dashed his head against a wall.”
“I remember,” Dany said sadly. “They murdered Rhaegar’s daughter as well, the little princess. Rhaenys, she was named, like Aegon’s sister. There was no Visenya, but he said the dragon has three heads. What is the song of ice and fire?”
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Excerpt From: George R. R. Martin. “A Clash of Kings.” iBooks. 

 

 

With him more than likely being named that after Aegon the conqueror, rider of the Black Dread, and carrier of Blackfyre. Also Egg from the Dunc and Egg books, aka Aegon V

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15 minutes ago, Wickedkitten said:

 

Spoiler regarding something in the second volume of those pulpy things that don't really exist

 

 

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If that's the case, and they are going by the books, then his name would be Aegon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With him more than likely being named that after Aegon the conqueror, rider of the Black Dread, and carrier of Blackfyre. Also Egg from the Dunc and Egg books, aka Aegon V
 

 

 

If he had a babby named Aegon already though, how would that work out. 

 

Hope it's Visenya :lol:

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14 minutes ago, Moz said:

 

Or like... took some with them, seeing as they were in the middle of mining it

 

Yeah, but they would have had to take time to make it all into weapons and they didn't have a forge, and it would have taken ages. 

 

They can totally do that now that Gendry is around though so it's just as well that he didn't get lost on the way back to Eastwatch or they would have been fucked.

 

Actually thinking about it, there are a shitload of dragonglass weapons that got left at Hardhome

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On 8/24/2017 at 12:19, PopeSmokesDope said:

 

Its a large frozen lake..  there's a dock right next to where the chains are....

 

 

 

Still seems like a stretch.

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6 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

So lucky the finale lands on a bank holiday weekend. I'll be up watching it too. If I'm staying up for the McGregor Mayweather shitfest the night before, then I'm definitely  staying up for this. 

 

Can't wait to wake up at 5am for 20 seconds of action. 

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10 hours ago, Wickedkitten said:

 

Depends on how annulments work in Westeros. The first one might be Aegon Sand afterward

So he not only annuls his marriage but names his first child from the second marriage after the second child from the first marriage? That'd go down well in Dorne.

 

My money's on something unpronounceable with lots more "aeaeae" in it, so he decides it's less hassle to stay as Jon.

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1 hour ago, kitten said:

So he not only annuls his marriage but names his first child from the second marriage after the second child from the first marriage? That'd go down well in Dorne.

 

My money's on something unpronounceable with lots more "aeaeae" in it, so he decides it's less hassle to stay as Jon.

 

Yep, these people place too much stock in prophecies really! I almost wish the episode would leak already, but I don't because it is going to be such a long wait until the next season.

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On 8/24/2017 at 10:28, Steely said:

With the Knight King, apparently the location where Bran spotted him whilst Crow Warging a few episodes ago, was the exact same spot that the 'Beyond the Wall' final showdown took place.

 

Coincidence? Or did he know the Bastardly 7 and Dragons were coming?! Or was it just a lack of budget, so just a use of  the same location!?

 

So many questions!

A whole episode of foreshadowing! This LA writers maaaaan!!!

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On 8/24/2017 at 12:07, scottcr said:

The Night King has been working on this plan FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.  He's had a bit of time to get some big chains.

That the show never thought to display to us before. Despite having previously displayed amazing foreshadowing (Hodor!!)

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On 8/24/2017 at 14:04, abc said:

I don't care about them that much, in and of themselves. It's just that people jumped on anyone who mentioned the issue, which forced a justification of the criticism, and a back-and-forth about nit-picking. That made it seem more of an issue that in actually is.

 

I view this kind of lapse as symptomatic of a wider lack of attention to detail, whether the fault is the writing, or comes from the rushed pacing (there isn't time to foreshadow such plot devices). The fact that not everyone is bothered by any individual issue is not really the point, since it's a more systematic problem with the current show.

 



We saw the night king marching in episode 5, through Bran worging a raven. At that point, if you saw 100 zombies carrying these fucking massive chain carts, then everyone would now be creaming the genius of the show and the 8 dimensional chess of the night king. They didn't do that, so it looks like a fuck up. Maybe it matters, maybe it doesn't, but it doesn't look like good writing.

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On 8/24/2017 at 14:33, Radish said:

 

I think that's being hugely unfair to GRRM. He built this world and wrote these characters. Say what you will about the endless travelling etc, but GRRM was committed to maintaining the worlds logic and rules and the TV series is sorely lacking in that area now. Yes, the early seasons were excellent adaptations but that's all they were. It's pretty clear now that GRRM is out of the picture and Benioff and Weiss are having to create rather than adapt that their work isn't a patch on his.


A thousand times this. Whatever phrases, scenes dialogue or plots in the books you didn't love, the spectacular work done by GRRM to create this universe is genuinely Tolkien level.

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3 hours ago, kerraig UK said:



We saw the night king marching in episode 5, through Bran worging a raven. At that point, if you saw 100 zombies carrying these fucking massive chain carts, then everyone would now be creaming the genius of the show and the 8 dimensional chess of the night king. They didn't do that, so it looks like a fuck up. Maybe it matters, maybe it doesn't, but it doesn't look like good writing.

 

Guys let's talk about the chains again, I don't think we've covered it properly.

 

Also, fast travel, am I right?

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