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[Headache]

4 minutes ago, NexivRed said:

 

Actually, the first thing I said out loud when Daenerys showed up beyond the wall was, "She doesn't even have a bloody hat on!!?!"

I was watching it with a mate. When the 'next morning' scene began we see that the bastards have spent the night stuck on a rock in the middle of a frozen lake and you can see the snow in their hair, that's when I said out loud, "They still haven't put any bloody hats on?!" 

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[Chadruharazzeb]

I was disappointed that upon rescuing Tormund, The Hound didn't say "Get up you ginger cunt" 

[NexivRed]

It's official. The issues are real. My bloody MUM asked where they got the chains from. She didn't like the episode much, and she's normally bloody easy to please. 

[Silent Runner]

13 minutes ago, abc said:

 

 

As the undead aren't big on armour, and dragon glass is one-hit kill, realistically this could be a very short war. However, the battles are never sensibly conducted or depicted, so expect the humans to simply run towards the undead horde with anti-undead hand-to-hand weapons.

 

Qyburns Scorpion mk 2. It comes equipped with a load of massive dragon glass arrows. Get Bron trained up. 

[Alan Stock]

Chaingate that's brilliant. Yep if even mums are asking the question then the night king better well have some bloody answers next season. Can't wait for Episode 1 where we see his castle made of giant chains and stolen hats. We also get a monologue from the king about target priorities, weakened in power so he couldn't raise the dead redshirts and not being arsed to raise a dragon from the bottom of a lake. Meanwhile, back at dragonstone Jon reveals he is immune to cold thanks to the Lord of light and apologises for his pointless bloodlust, Dany reveals she doesn't get cold cos she's the queen of dragons, Varys and Tyrion apologise for their terribly inconsistent military intelligence and the Maesters reveal their teleportation device every hero has been using thus far. An emotional funeral is held for the redshirts who it turns out were horrid men who had taken the black and vowed to give their lives to save the real heroes. The rest of the season concentrates on all the side characters and at the end Bran wakes up in the shower, it was all a dream all along. Sorted! 

[palaver]

Bran wakes up. Reaching for his laptop he yanks it open. There's the e-mail.

 

Amazon. Winds Of Winter. Pre-order.

 

The year: 2025.

[Mr Ben]

Of course, Reddit couldnt leave it alone...

 

From the subtle.

 

To the not so subtle.

 

[Stig]

Honest Trailers did theme songs for TV Shows. At 3:20 check out Michael Boltons GOT one

 

 

[kerraig UK]

33 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

Honest Trailers did theme songs for TV Shows. At 3:20 check out Michael Boltons GOT one

 

 

I think that might be the single most painful thing i've ever seen on the internet. And i've watched decapitation videos.

[Gommy]

2 hours ago, abc said:

 

More to the point, dragon glass-tipped arrows would be very useful. Gear up units of archers with them for future pitched battles against the Walkers, and order them to fire at the Walkers, especially the Night King, not the Wights. They could have Agincourt-style stakes in front to protect them, also tipped with dragon glass, if there's enough of it going around. Imagine rains of such arrows coming down. Have ranks of spearmen with - you guessed it, dragon glass tipped weapons - to protect the archers from an undead charge.

 

As the undead aren't big on armour, and dragon glass is one-hit kill, realistically this could be a very short war. However, the battles are never sensibly conducted or depicted, so expect the humans to simply run towards the undead horde with anti-undead hand-to-hand weapons.

 

Well we've had 0 pitched battles with preparation against the undead so it's reasonable for them to not have done any of the above.  All of these seem like good options for the future.

 

I really don't see the issue with the chains, this can pretty much be explained with fast travel™, there was an intermediate scene during that intermediate scene the undead were fast travelling to wherever they keep their chains and back.  I do think there are lots of other things which make much less sense, why send Gendry running and you decide to run in the opposite direction into the middle of an ice lake?  Which sort of worked out but was not a plan.  You would also assume with all the dragon breath, you could essentially end up with another moat around the ice which would make Jon's pretty pointless last stand even more pointless.  Drogon was pretty chill while people were getting onto him, despite the swarming undead.  Benjens ability to know Jon would survive his drowning but would need help rescuing once he got up was really lazy. 

 

[NexivRed]

Can't remember if Azor Ahai has been mentioned by name in the show, but it's supposed to be another name for The Prince that was Promised (which has been mentioned), who wields a literal or metaphorical flaming sword named Lightbringer. 

 

Melissandre has told Jon, and Danaerys in a roundabout way, that he is in fact, the man. 

 

Theories on this reincarnated guy and the forging of a new sword have been joyfully thrown about for years. Well, I've just cracked it. 

 

So if things continue the way they're going on that ship, Lightbringer is going to be Jon's wang after he's sunk it into the dragon queen  His flippin' "red sword of heroes" clasped tightly in his Targ hand. 

 

Honestly, I wouldn't put it past GRRM to have written it with something so utterly crude in mind 

 

Of course the other idea is that Dany is the "Prince", as she pulled hatched the sword dragons from the fire funeral pyre. But that's bollocks, and no way as good as a foreshadowed, saviour dick. 

[NexivRed]

Ep 6

Spoiler

 

 

So what's going on with the pommel then?

 

[Escape]

20 hours ago, Camel said:

Gendry might turn into a giant marzipan shoe in the next episode

 

Marzipandre's mince that was promised. Missandei becomes Marzipandei from the cookbook of Naath and no-one notices.

 

 

20 hours ago, jonamok said:

Yep, for all of these beefs, most of us can suggest a better, more thematic, more logical way to get the same result than the show's bloody writing team.

 

S7E6:

 

My line about the weak

 

horse

was obviously rubbish, but I was working within the parameters of the event. It would've been much better to rewrite that scene entirely. Also...

 

 

I actually hoped that Jon was dead. Given his surname and his life on the peripheries, I'd have found that engagingly sober.

 

20 hours ago, abc said:

"No, let's bring along a tradesman who just turned up, cos reasons".

 

Because when he...

 

 

ran back to Eastwatch, he had to use their tradesmen's entrance.

 

19 hours ago, BlinkyBear said:

 I haven't seen a quarry where stone is being mined so how do they make the castles? 

 

I could go on, but fuck that noise. 

 

Why haven't those battle pieces blown off the table at the windowless Dragonstone?

[BedroomBusinessman]

I assumed the chains were from the weapon the watch used on the wall a few seasons ago. 

Spoiler

The big swinging thing.

Can anyone remember what they called it?

[Harsin]

Why haven't those battle pieces blown off the table at the windowless Dragonstone?

 

The surface is still a bit sticky from that time Stannis porked Melisandre on top of it.

[Escape]

The plinth that was polished.

 

40 minutes ago, BedroomBusinessman said:

I assumed the chains were from the weapon the watch used on the wall a few seasons ago. 

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The big swinging thing.

Can anyone remember what they called it?

 

 

The scythe, but they pulled that back up and didn't use it again. Similar gauge, though; good call.

[Gotters]

I quite liked that Michael Bolton song, but then I'm on a strong 80s musical throwback kick at the moment.

[Andy_Why]

So the director sort of agrees with you guys. Certainly on the fast travel. 

 

http://www.avclub.com/article/game-thrones-director-admits-shows-timeline-strain-259742

 

He wisely stays right out of Chaingate however

[Disgraced Toblerone]

Stolen from Guardian's comments, made me chuckle.

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"I watched this episode much more closely than you people watched it, and you had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say that right now. You had a group on one side that came charging in, north of that big beautiful Wall without a permit, and they were very, very violent."

- Ser Donnard Trymp refuses to condemn Wight Supremacists.

[jonathanhoey]

1 hour ago, Andy_Why said:

So the director sort of agrees with you guys. Certainly on the fast travel. 

 

http://www.avclub.com/article/game-thrones-director-admits-shows-timeline-strain-259742

 

He wisely stays right out of Chaingate however

 

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“We tried to hedge it a little bit with the eternal twilight up there north of The Wall. I think there was some effort to fudge the timeline a little bit by not declaring exactly how long we were there,” Taylor says, which “worked for some people, for other people it didn’t.”

 

...which explains the (IMO overdone) day-for-night effect.

 

It was easy to miss because of all the spoiler tags, but @Strategos helpfully did the maths upthread and calculated that they would have had to be on the rocky island for about a week in order for the ice to refreeze. Which is obviously more than enough time for blacksmiths and ravens and dragons to do their respective things.

 

I like to think that if I were making the episode I'd have chosen to show it a *little* more clearly. As it is, the only real indication of the passage of time is what we can infer from the fact that the Hound had got bored enough to start throwing stones.

 

(At first, until it hit the baddie in the face and broke its jaw, I legit thought he was throwing snowballs.)

[Talk Show Host]

Apologies if it has been posted before, but this theory blew my mind and can explain most of the details people complain about.

 

Warning: seriously mind blowing, series defining theory with potential:

 

Spoiler

http://time.com/4909961/game-of-thrones-bran-stark-night-king/

 

[womblingfree]

Unless I'm very mistaken Jon Snow explicitly told us all how the Army of the Dead will be defeated and it's lifted straight out of Lost Boys.

 

George R.R. Martin, we miss you.

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[jonathanhoey]

19 minutes ago, abc said:

Something we haven't mentioned (I don't think) that this week's Cast of Kings flagged up was the flaming swords. Previously, the Brotherhood had to do a ritual (using their own blood IIRC) to light up the torches - now it's "flame on".  So it's now done for convenience/coolness/action movie factor, rather than organically, and having an actual cost.

 

Like the chains (only worse), it's a minor detail on its own, but it's systematic of the direction the show has gone in. There are a lot of little things like this adding up.

 

When they need to burn the body and Tormund grumbles about not having any way to start a fire, it looks like Beric lights his sword by drawing his hand along the blade.

 

Maybe he's cutting his palm, and we're supposed to realise that they've refined the blood sacrifice ritual thing down to the bare bones of "feed blood to sword, get flames"?

 

I'm the world's worst details guy when it comes to this show, so that could be total bobbins, I'unno.

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[therearerules]

How is that vital information?

[Wickedkitten]

37 minutes ago, beenabadbunny said:

 

When they need to burn the body and Tormund grumbles about not having any way to start a fire, it looks like Beric lights his sword by drawing his hand along the blade.

 

Maybe he's cutting his palm, and we're supposed to realise that they've refined the blood sacrifice ritual thing down to the bare bones of "feed blood to sword, get flames"?

 

I'm the world's worst details guy when it comes to this show, so that could be total bobbins, I'unno.

 

Yeah, Thoros does it with his sword when they are fighting the wight bear as well

[Zael]

I thought the canon was Thoros covered his sword in Wildfire and did it as a trick. He had to replace his sword every time he did it. 

[K]

I'm genuinely amazed that people are complaining that the series is moving too quickly, and that they aren't spending enough time explaining where the army of zombies got a big chain from. The series is actually moving forward now; long-established characters are meeting up and getting into conflict with each other; armies are clashing; the plot is developing; things are happening. This is a good thing.

 

I get the sense that they're having to make up a bit more ground than they would ideally like to do because they spent an entire series on Bran being dragged to the other end of the country in real time, or had Sansa looking confused for five series in a row. They're doing stuff with Sansa in particular that they should have been doing years ago, but it's no less welcome for it.