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[Girth Certificate]

it wasn't a typo, I was taking the piss

[Broker]

11 hours ago, The Fox said:

 

They've also dispensed with a lot of logic when it comes to plot, character interactions etc. Now they just do whatever needs to happen for the story to quickly advance where they want it to go, even if it doesn't really make any sense.

 

Also what the fuck has happened to Bran.

 

I'm guessing looking into the past of Westeros has fucking traumatised him.

 

1 hour ago, meatbin said:

 

I read it's not episodes, just internal documents (scripts) and employee data. 

 

1.5TB of text files? That's more than all the books in the world, there must be video/image/data to bulk it to that size.

[Boothjan]

1 hour ago, Mentazm said:

How does everyone having issues with fast travel square away the fact there's dragons, a witch, the undead, giants and magic?

 

It's this week's 'Game of Moans'.

 

Episode 1 - Sheeran.

Episode 2 - Ravens

Episode 3 - Fast Travel

 

I have to admire the consistency of these utterly pointless lines of argument!

[Mentazm]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next handful of episodes appear online shortly. Pretty sure it happened in s2 too?

 

I LOVED the scene between Baelish and Sansa. It genuinely gave me chills, he certainly has a way with words.

[Chadruharazzeb]

1 hour ago, Wickedkitten said:

Can we take a moment to talk about how fucking awesome Sam Tarly is? He fucking cured Jorah. No one knows how to cure greyscale yet Sam did it

 

 

 

How has it taken the greatest medical minds in Westeros so long to figure out that the best way to cure greyscale is to remove it?

[Delargey]

Littlefinger and Olenna killed Joffrey together. Littlefinger smuggled the poison in on Sansa's necklace (via Ser Dontos) and Olenna put it in the wine.

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, Chadruharazzeb said:

 

How has it taken the greatest medical minds in Westeros so long to figure out that the best way to cure greyscale is to remove it?

The problem is removing it correctly and without getting infected yourself. 

[Delargey]

Or the patient dying. 

[Girth Certificate]

plus the maesters seem like a shower of fannies

[Camel]

Looks like the trick is to remove it with a screwdriver.

[Chadruharazzeb]

Whilst wearing gloves.

[Girth Certificate]

Jorah's never going to get laid now he looks like a Peperami man from Dark Souls

[NickC]

It looks like Cersei is on the up, but here's my prediction for how this season ends:

 

Jamie will make a huge tactical error leading the the total destruction of the Lannister army, then Cersei will go "U wot m8?!", then Jamie turns to her, knifes her in the tits - then whoosh! - he takes off his face and it was Tom Cruise all along. 

 

ROLL END CREDITS.

[youngbob]

1 hour ago, Silent Runner said:

 

If Arya gets to Winterfell and starts all that 'a girl has no name' carry-on it'll be dreadful. 

 

I think thats all finished. That was just part of her training. Jaqen asked her the question again before she left him and she told him her real name and got the Faceless Man nod of approval.

[Stig]

I don't think she's off to Winterfell now. Thats comment she made last week after the wolf walked off, suggested she was talking about herself too.

 

"Thats not you" - She's not that same girl anymore, she doesn't need to go back to Winterfell for a family reunion. She came here to do a job, and she's going to do that.

[smithstock]

4 hours ago, pervent aline perio grow d said:

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Also Euron is increasingly great. Though reminds me of Kano in the Mortal Kombat film. 

 

 

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Euron re-enters the throne room like...

 

 

 

 

[Andy_Why]

29 minutes ago, NickC said:

It looks like Cersei is on the up, but here's my prediction for how this season ends:

 

Jamie will make a huge tactical error leading the the total destruction of the Lannister army, then Cersei will go "U wot m8?!", then Jamie turns to her, knifes her in the tits - then whoosh! - he takes off his face and it was Tom Cruise all along. 

 

ROLL END CREDITS.

 

Ideally with Limp Bizkit's version of the Mission Impossible theme playing as he does it.

 

EDIT: Except it's a cover version by Ed Sheeran.

[Alan Stock]

I'm loving this, and sad when every episode ends. But I do think the pacing's felt weird in this one. There are all these big events happening, but they all seem rushed and disconnected. Weirdly it still doesn't feel like much has happened. Maybe that's because there's a distinct lack of tension/high stakes drama which earlier seasons had with climatic battles, fight scenes and twists. Or that a lot of the plot is taking place in dialogues in places like Old Town, Dragonstone and Kings Landing without the adventurous feel of earlier seasons. I feel like the last three episodes have plodded along, with the exception of the Greyjoy fleet battle and a few scenes in this episode.

 

Now there are so many characters in play, the TV show just can't hope to flesh out their development unless it added more seasons. We have only seen glimpses of some of these characters (people like Bronn, Brienne + Pod, and even other major players). Events are moving so fast there isn't time for any extra scenes to flesh out their stories which is sad. It's also possible that RR Martin hadn't actually written memorable character scenes by that point in development. The ones we do get are good, and I'm all for keeping things moving along, but it's disappointing that characters and storylines who have been built up over the whole series are now relegated to side-notes. I would have liked to see another season but as Martin hadn't actually written the book I can understand they would struggle for content.

 

Anyway, last night's episode:

 

 

 

Funny that I said a few pages ago that the Iron Bank thread had fizzled out, and then lo and behold, here's the Iron Bank!

 

Cersei gets sweet revenge on one of her enemies in the dungeon. I never really dug Cersei's new short haired look but she looks great with that black spiky dress on. Then we see a human side to her with Jaime that has been hidden for a long time. I wonder if the sand snake queen and her daughter will ever escape? Cersei has a very long list of people who would exact extreme revenge on her if they got the chance! Maybe good ol' Jamie will end it for them.

 

I liked that things didn't go smoothly for Jon and Dany. All the Dragonstone scenes were great, it's also an amazing location visually. It's rare for someone to get Varys riled which was cool, and Davos is always great - fumbles with the right words sometimes but always ends up speaking from the heart and spelling out why someone should be trusted.

 

I also think Euron is pretty great, yeah he's another mad baddy but he pulls off the cheeky pirate well. I wonder where his niece is going to get taken? Will Theon man up eventually and fight Euron? It's kinda stupid that Euron would taunt Jaime though, you don't fuck with the best swordsman in the seven kingdoms and what's the point of it - ah well, he is mental I suppose.

 

The Casterly Rock/Tyrell scenes were a dissapointment. I realise that they aren't significant battles but Casterly Rock the castle looked kinda fake, and of course Highgarden we barely got to see the battle at all. It was cool that Tyrion's sewage work led to something, that was some good forethought in the writing, it's only mentioned offhand in the TV and books but there's a reason behind it! I did like the twist that Casterly Rock is a trap for the Unsullied too. They are screwed now unless they march, or more likely Dany goes off on a dragon rescue mission. Don't underestimate Grey Wrym though, I bet they'll get something significant done.

 

Tyrell as a power crumbled weirdly easily, considering they are supposed to be this big army, I'm sure the books will flesh this one out a lot more. I assume it's because Jaime won over the Tyrell allies like that bloke from last episode. I liked Lady Olenna's last conversation. She knows the gig's up, tries to talk some sense into Jaime and finally reveals the secret behind Joffrey's death. I can't remember whether it had been hinted at already in the TV show but by this point in the books you already basically know. I was surprised Jaime kept his composure, I thought if there was one thing that might send him into a rage it would be that. He's one of my favourite characters and I'm always wondering where his path will lead. Can he ever break free of Cersei's shackles, will he ever defy her, will he ever betray her when faced with an undeniably evil act? I wonder if we will ever see him in an epic fight again, with Game of Thrones you never know who will be involved in the climactic fight scenes.

 

Up in the North, Littlefinger actually says something useful and you get to see a bit into his complex mind and why he's so good at what he does. Sansa's actually starting to fall for him, and you have to think he's trying to plant the seed that "what if Jon is your enemy" "what if you took control of the North". Mind you, Sansa has seemed less like a bitch in this episode and more genuine. Awkward reunion with Bran but that's to be expected when he's now a zombie raven. I don't think you can diss the guy's acting too much, he's supposed to be this emotionless seer and the scene does a good job of showing that Bran, as we know him, is basically gone. Agreed it will be pretty funny when Arya arrives as that will also be pretty cringe, although Arya has shown a little more emotion lately. I have a feeling Arya will have Littlefinger in her sights once she arrives when she sees how he influences Sansa. 

 

And down in Oldtown Sam does a gud 'un and cures Jorah. His reward is feck all but I am sure he'll steal some more useful Night wraith knowledge soon. What will Jorah do now? I reckon he'll teleport his way to Dany somehow and she'll send him on some kind of mad mission. Also, he's a Mormont so maybe he will help to seal the deal with joining forces between Jon and Dany, that is if his young girl relative approves.

 

My big issue in this season is that nothing's going on with the army of the dead. It's talked up all the time, but we never see it, so when it finally comes into the picture it'll feel like an anticlimax. The big showdowns with the dead in the past have been amazing and the sense of dread that they're coming kept fresh in your minds. At this point in the plot I feel like they should be starting incursions or something just to keep the threat alive in your mind. What I've always found really stupid in the TV and the books is that the dead army doesn't seem to move, or if they do it's at a glacial pace (excuse the pun). Throughout the series they make attacks only short distances from the wall, but yet they're always talked about as "coming" and we see scenes of them travelling. How can it take them this long to reach the bloody wall? Countless characters from the series have ventured deep into the North and come back in the time that this undead army is pissing around marching south. They'd better start making the undead feel like a threat again or it'll all be crammed into the final season and the theming and pacing will be screwed. Hopefully they start attacking asap, Jon has his dragonstone mine now so it must be zombie war time at last. Please.
 

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

I don't think she's off to Winterfell now. Thats comment she made last week after the wolf walked off, suggested she was talking about herself too.

 

"Thats not you" - She's not that same girl anymore, she doesn't need to go back to Winterfell for a family reunion. She came here to do a job, and she's going to do that.

 

I keep seeing this but I don't understand, didn't she leave and come home precisely because she wasn't able to let go of being Arya Stark and give up on her family. It seems weird that her whole arc there would lead to her deciding that she didn't want to give up her identity but then she sees a wolf and decides to fuck off her family forever.

[NexivRed]

3 hours ago, Mentazm said:

Reason they have dragons and not wolves is because wolves are real. We all know what they look like, and poor cgi can give them the uncanny valley effect. Dragons don't have the same problem.

 

I don't think it's anything to do with that. They don't include the wolves because they don't care about writing them in. 

[Lorfarius]

 

[Broker]

You can choose to believe that, but the producers of the show have stated that is why there's more dragon bits than wolf bits and most people are more likely to pay attention to what they've said than what you think.

[K]

I'd say that having wolves in a scene would be a logistical nightmare, and that alone would probably account for why they feature so little. It must be complex enough organising the whole thing without having to account for having to look after several enormous wild animals, i.e. making sure they're fed, not stressed out, not scared by loud noises, making sure they're under constant supervision, cleaning up their poo, etc.

[Wickedkitten]

33 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

I don't think she's off to Winterfell now. Thats comment she made last week after the wolf walked off, suggested she was talking about herself too.

 

"Thats not you" - She's not that same girl anymore, she doesn't need to go back to Winterfell for a family reunion. She came here to do a job, and she's going to do that.

 

 

I think she meant that's not you in that she's not an assassin, just like how Nymeria at heart is a wolf and is going to go off and do wolf shit and Arya at heart is a Stark and she is going home. 

[Glasgowchivas]

1 hour ago, Delargey said:

Littlefinger and Olenna killed Joffrey together. Littlefinger smuggled the poison in on Sansa's necklace (via Ser Dontos) and Olenna put it in the wine.

 

That's right but Littlefinger's role in it is unknown to Cersei otherwise he'd never have been allowed to head to the Vale and become the Warden of the East - obv doesn't matter now as he's thrown in with Jon Snow so is a traitor to her now but before Oleanna confessed to being part of the poisoning everyone thought it was Tyrion & Sansa.

[The Fox]

1 hour ago, Broker said:

 

I'm guessing looking into the past of Westeros has fucking traumatised him.

 

He's not talking like someone with PTSD though. Overnight he's started talking and acting like this mystical ethereal being, seemingly incapable of normal human interaction.

[Stig]

1 minute ago, Wickedkitten said:

 

 

I think she meant that's not you in that she's not an assassin just like how Nymeria at heart is a wolf and is going to go off and do wolf shit and Arya at heart is a Stark and she is going home. 

 

Interesting how it seems to have been interpreted in two completely different ways. I guess we'll see soon who was right. I personally want to see her be the sneaky assassin and kill Cersai.

[Darren]

Another great episode, but someone on the production team has got a serious Monty Python thing going on. After the Holy Grail castle arrival the other week, was I the only one who heard Michael Palin in my head as Grey Worm & co broke into Casterley Rock via the sewers?

 

"Once in the sewer, timing will be of the essence. There is a Roman feast later in the evening, so we must move fast, and don't wear your best sandals. Turning left here, we enter the Caesar-Augustus memorial sewer and from there, proceed directly to the hypocaust. This has just been re-tiled, so terrorists, careful with those weapons. We will now be directly beneath Pilate's audience chamber itself. This is the moment for Habbakuk to get out his prong."

 

I half expected them to meet the People's Front of Westeros on the way up.

[Wickedkitten]

1 minute ago, Stigweard said:

 

Interesting how it seems to have been interpreted in two completely different ways. I guess we'll see soon who was right. I personally want to see her be the sneaky assassin and kill Cersai.

 

I would love nothing more than to see her kill Cersei whilst wearing Jaime's face at the end of this

[Glasgowchivas]

4 minutes ago, The Fox said:

 

He's not talking like someone with PTSD though. Overnight he's started talking and acting like this mystical ethereal being, seemingly incapable of normal human interaction.

 

TBH, I prefer this version of Bran than the one we've had for 6 seasons. I want him being an weird prick every week, his shell only cracking when he realises he's the reason the Night King can move beyond the Wall now. Whoops!