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Not digging Dr Branhatten. I can't decide whether it's bad writing, bad directing, bad acting, or all three. 

 

Who else thinks Cersei's handmaiden looked a tad

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faceless..

 

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Bronn's the wrong side!!!

 

What the fuck are they going to do with Baelish? If he and Varys get a chance to do one of their wit throwing sequences, Petyr's going to have as much ammunition and pazazz as a firework soaked in piss. 

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6 hours ago, MrPogo said:

 

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Best I can work out the whole of Dany's fleet would have set off together, with Euron's following all the way (it having been in King's Landing immediately before that). He attacked the lot heading to Sunspear just after they split off, then he headed back to Kings Landing whilst the rest of his fleet were either playing catchup or deliberately hanging back from the Casterly Rock bound part of Dany's fleet, which Olena would have been with. Either way, the ship which would have dropped her off as close as possible to Highgarden (possibly sailing right up to it if the river is wide enough) was obviously allowed to go unmolested when it split off itself.

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But Sunspear is right on the coast along their route. It doesn't really make sense that Euron had the time to intercept the Greyjoy detachment when they split off as they'd be splitting off right into harbour. Also if they all left together how did Euron have the time to attack and capture the Greyjoy fleet, sail back to Kings Landing to show off and then arrive in Casterly Rock just as the Unsullied attacked?

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But Sunspear is right on the coast along their route. It doesn't really make sense that Euron had the time to intercept the Greyjoy detachment when they split off as they'd be splitting off right into harbour. Also if they all left together how did Euron have the time to attack and capture the Greyjoy fleet, sail back to Kings Landing to show off and then arrive in Casterly Rock just as the Unsullied attacked?

 

 

 

I suppose the ("good") Greyjoy lot could easily have been sailing separately, either in front or behind (depending on the balance of their superior seamanship vs drunkenness levels), and we didn't see Euron himself at Casterly rock, so he probably took a single ship to Kings Landing whilst the rest of his fleet followed the Unsullied boats until they emptied out and could be attacked with minimal resistance. To me if anything doesn't make sense it's that Jamie and the Lannister armies managed to get where they were so quickly (although I guess a raven could have told the Lannister army to head to Highgarden and meet Jamie outside, whilst he and Bronn just rode a chain of horses flat out) 

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Enjoyed that episode much more than any that I have in a long time, I'd become disinterested in the show tbh because I was getting restless at lengthy redundant talking scenes that lacked the intensity of ones in the past, but I guess that's the result of getting big characters in the same room where pivotal things happen. This episode definitely felt longer and more substantial to me. 

 

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I liked Littlefinger emptying his thought process to Sansa and dropping his mask, first time he's ever been genuinely honest (?) and tried to give advice rather than manipulate..at least that's how it seemed. 

 

I've always liked Daenerys but she was insufferable towards Jon, 'first he refuses to refer to me as Queen, now he's calling me a child?' What a nob. I get that she had to project power in situations in the past (which made them less embarrassing to sit through), but in contrast to Jon's straight forwardness (after a long journey across an ocean in a boat no less) it was weird. I was hoping Jon when chatting to Tyrion would mention how much of a tyrannical power hungry obsessive she came across as. 

 

Also Euron is increasingly great. Though reminds me of Kano in the Mortal Kombat film. 

 

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9 minutes ago, PopeSmokesDope said:

 

It's all over the news...

Is this one of those times where the person who makes the post can't see the  'sent from my phone using tapatalk' tag?

 

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It seems HBO have been hacked again and 1.5TB of shows and scripts have been pinched.... hackers are about to release it all...


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I hate Euron, just like I hated Ramsey Snowlton. Why do the bad guys have to be over the top psychopaths? Why can't they just be bad for simply being on the opposing side, instead of for chopping people's dicks off?
There's plenty of normal baddies. I think Euron is great. Cheering him all the way.
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Considering the budget size and the fewer episodes, the battle scenes have felt weak, empty and very meh. I felt nothing as 
 
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Pacing is all off. No build. Lacklustre writing. I didn't like Lady Olenna's lines much. She seemed too frightened and weak for me. She asked how it would be done twice. 
 
Frustrates me how budget allocation can't even prioritise something sensible such as Ghost travelling to Winterfell with Bran. Can afford numerous unnecessary shots of dragons (why more than one at a time?) but can't superimpose a white dog on the screen to look slightly larger than normal. 
Honestly, I don't buy into the inaffordability of putting them on screen for 15 seconds when they're building entire, textured dragons. 
They should have killed him when Jon was brought back rather than write him bizarrely.
 
In fact, the pacing was so off it made it feel like a very short episode when in reality it was one of the longest there has ever been.
 
I am looking forward to what Sam reads in his "reward" though. 
 
Very little oomph, however Lena Heady was outstanding. 

Reason they have dragons and not wolves is because wolves are real. We all know what they look like, and poor cgi can give them the uncanny valley effect. Dragons don't have the same problem.
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Ok, ok, I know the books don't exist, but
 

considering the book series is known as A Song of Ice and Fire, we just found out (from Melisandre talking to Varys) that Martin's entire series refers to Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen.

 
Or perhaps that was obvious from the beginning, I don't know...

You seriously didn't realise that? Pretty hilarious! The north/the dead = ice, Danny/dragons = fire.
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10 minutes ago, Adrock said:

Do the 1.5tb include actual episodes or just other data? I'm shocked large media outfits still keep this kind of stuff readily accessible via the internet, they must know they are massive targets for hacking.

 

I read it's not episodes, just internal documents (scripts) and employee data. 

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For me it's because they're explained in the world and make sense in that world. If Westeros had lodestones dotted around the land that let people teleport instantly through them I'd also be fine with that.

 

Fast travel isn't something in the world like dragons or undead. It's a tool by the tv show creators to allow them to put the scenes they want together. It's not explained, and it doesn't make sense a lot of the time. It's jarring in a way that dragons or undead never were.

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Yeah its strange. You have a bloke, brought back to life by a witch who gave birth to a shadow that killed a gay prince, travelling to see a woman who walked through a ferocious fire unscathed and commands three dragons. But fast travel is an issue.

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9 hours ago, Harsin said:

Ever since they ran out of book everyone seems to teleport all around the place.

 

 

It would be great to have a sense of how long it takes to get somewhere.

 

It seem like everyone moves around so quickly. It must take weeks in real time.

 

I think if they at least had a few more "travelling" scenes, it would make all the difference. 

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4 minutes ago, Mentazm said:

How does everyone having issues with fast travel square away the fact there's dragons, a witch, the undead, giants and magic?

 

 

Eh?  Fast travel isn't part of that universe.  Dragons are.  They're just doing a shit job of moving characters around.  Made worse I think by the fact that they used to actually bother with that stuff.

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My brother is pretty into over thinking this show and every time we discuss a new episode he's hyperactive and demanding I must keep up. So, I was replaying the episode while we talked...

 

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Did you notice the line before the dragon flies over?

What?

Oh God do you even watch this show? /typical reaction

~Jon says 'true but I'm not a Stark' just as the dragon appears~

See! They keep dropping these clues! 

That was a clue?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, _Pow_ said:

the guy who wrote the book knew how to do it, surely

 

I hate Bran now. Speak plainly you little wanker.

 

That Stark re-union was so underwhelming, it didn't help that Bran is a pretty terrible actor. But all that 'three eyed raven' stuff was terrible. If Arya gets to Winterfell and starts all that 'a girl has no name' carry-on it'll be dreadful. 

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10 hours ago, CactuarBill said:

I'm all for fast travel. If Martin wrote the show then we'd have about 14 seasons before the end of the story.


It certainly makes for a zippy pace. I agree with this review. It makes no sense, but it does make for a better show.
http://www.slashfilm.com/game-of-thrones-the-queens-justice-review/

Lots of cool character moment last night (well, last night for me). I loved Jon's "I don't" when Dany said we all like doing the things we're good at, the handshake between Jorah and Sam and of course the Jaimie/Olenna scene.

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I’d have fast travel over an entire series of Jon trekking across Westeros, any day of the week. After sixty episodes of preamble, I’m fine with them actually getting to the point, getting critical characters to meet and conflict with each other, and actually accelerate the pace of the story a bit.

 

Anyway, it was a great episode. I loved Euron saying “What a twat!” – it sounded improvised. A lot of the time, it feels like the US writers are struggling to create natural-sounding swearing in a UK register – some of the Hound’s dialogue in the first episode of this series sounded awkward, as did Davos in this one when he was talking about “sons of bitches”.

 

One thing confused me a bit – I thought Littlefinger had taken the credit for clipping Joffrey? He seemed to have an escape plan ready and waiting to go for the exact moment when he got poisoned.

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