Nintendo Gamer #5 (#75) Scores and info

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Just imagine directing the greatest porn movies of all time, and then only the cumshots end up in some 3 minute compilation on Youporn.

[routeburn]

Import Reviews:

DS: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 - 68

I'm genuinely interested to read why Devil Survivor 2 got 68, and the first one got 84 (http://www.nintendo-gamer.net/review/shin-megami-tensei-devil-survivor-review/), so I'll seek out a copy of this month's mag.

There you go, Mr Editor, proof that "reducing 132 pages of magazine craft" to a representative summary which can be quickly and easily digested by potential readers can lead to increased sales.

[SozzlyJoe]

Likewise, I am not up on the world of games magazines these days, and those scores at least told me they weren't some semi-official shill-magazine.

It was the wording of his tweet really "when will we ever learn to put words first" like it was one of the problems of the ages for humankind. And his 'magazine craft' was a little precious. But yeah, fair dos, it's easy to sling mud on the internet and I'm sure he is a nice guy and all.

Do you know him personally, Rudderless? Seems like you might. In which case I mean no offense if you're his uncle or something, lol.

[Rudderless]

Don't be so fucking precious.

It's not that. It's depressing that a guy who genuinely cares about his work - and is fucking good at it - is being ripped apart for daring to suggest that people focus too much on review scores over text these days. He's not even having a pop at Rllmuk, it's something that happens across several forums for most games mags. Being slightly disappointed that an entire month's work is reduced to a series of out-of-context numbers isn't nearly as dickish as going out of your way to tell someone you don't know for a mag you admit "isn't on your radar" to "deal with it".

If someone wants to post the scores, they're perfectly within their right to do so. But so is Matthew to say what he did. It's not an unreasonable thing to say - he's not demanding anyone take them down, is he?

[Gregory Wolfe]

It's not that. It's depressing that a guy who genuinely cares about his work - and is fucking good at it - is being ripped apart for daring to suggest that people focus too much on review scores over text these days. He's not even having a pop at Rllmuk, it's something that happens across several forums for most games mags. Being slightly disappointed that an entire month's work is reduced to a series of out-of-context numbers isn't nearly as dickish as going out of your way to tell someone you don't know for a mag you admit "isn't on your radar" to "deal with it".

If someone wants to post the scores, they're perfectly within their right to do so. But so is Matthew to say what he did. It's not an unreasonable thing to say - he's not demanding anyone take them down, is he?

Christ!, I've never heard of him.

If he's so good at what he does then post up a review he's done. Make it an old game/review if you like just so it doesn't hurt magazine sales.

I don't recall a thought process of mine, despite being a life-long game fan, that went anyhting like he/she is in my top 1 or 2 game reviewers.

The whole concept of game reviewer being at the top of their craft is an alien concept to me.

[Eats hoops and leaves]

It's not that. It's depressing that a guy who genuinely cares about his work - and is fucking good at it - is being ripped apart for daring to suggest that people focus too much on review scores over text these days. He's not even having a pop at Rllmuk, it's something that happens across several forums for most games mags. Being slightly disappointed that an entire month's work is reduced to a series of out-of-context numbers isn't nearly as dickish as going out of your way to tell someone you don't know for a mag you admit "isn't on your radar" to "deal with it".

If someone wants to post the scores, they're perfectly within their right to do so. But so is Matthew to say what he did. It's not an unreasonable thing to say - he's not demanding anyone take them down, is he?

But he used the word 'content' which has recently made my list of 'words people who are dickheads use'.

[Shoes]

This is a baffling thread.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Glad to see the scores made it back. Now at least we can discuss how depressing it is that the best game of the month is a straight NES port from 1985.

[DC Lemon]

Was his tweet even aimed at this thread? I see nothing that he needed to be offended by, only things like Stanley saying he'll buy the issue for one of the features.

I don't think the quality of his or his team's writing in their reviews has much to do with people noting that the Wii is now very much dead.

[Wools]

Despite his criticism and the little backlash his tweet received, it made me go and bug the magazine on the way home from work to have a flick through.

I’m really impressed with what I read of it so far. Despite being a single platform mag, it’s critical of bad games, there’s fun and silly little features, the look back of old games like Timesplitters 2 brought back very nostalgic memories and overall, great first impressions. I would place it amongst the likes of Arcade & Retro gamer where the writing style is enthusiastic and warm over cold and analytical, there’s lots of look backs to older games and the writers talk about each other.

It’s nice to have another Videogame magazine that I’m interested in as the vast majority I’ve read are rubbish. Retro Gamer is the only shining light, going from strength to strength each month, leaving only GamesTM & Edge. But GamesTM does not have enough character and Edge remains far too cold.

This will be a nice addition to the coffee table.

[SozzlyJoe]

It's not that. It's depressing that a guy who genuinely cares about his work - and is fucking good at it - is being ripped apart for daring to suggest that people focus too much on review scores over text these days.

I don't think anyone intended to rip him apart, it was just general internet forum razzing of someone who said something (IMO) silly on twitter. I see from Wiki that you have written for Nintendo Gamer, so I think this is one of those unforunate internet/real-life clashes. Please don't take it to heart.

[Shoes]

I started reading my subscription copy yesterday and - hooray! - the editorials are fun again! I always loved a good editorial; when it started, Jonathan Davies' editorials for N64 Magazine were totally brilliant, as were Mark Green's. It lost its way a bit, but Matthew's one this month was excellent.