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7 hours ago, Superblast! said:

This is going to sound incredibly precious, but what really annoyed me about Wind River was that it had a fairly interesting set-up about the plight of present-day Native Americans, only for it to be discarded in favour of some white guy playing on God Mode.

 

It's a fair criticism, but I think the film addresses that.

 

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Lambert is horribly broken. He's an outsider in a culture he's embraced, and I got the sense he was mainly tolerated because of his families history and because he knew when to shut the fuck up and as a result was an incredibly passive member of the community. He gets explicitly called out at one point for talking about "us" as though he's one of them. He's in a cultural no-mans land, and just spends his days alone hunting wolves and mountain lions.

 

 

Despite his whiteness, he wasn't able to save his daughter either. He's been abandoned by the very system that should empower him to solve everything because he shacked up with a Native American.

 

He's only able to save the FBI agent, out of everyone, and even then he only saves her life. She's broken by the end the story, having been out of her depth, under resourced and unable to do much at all other than follow the Res police around. Those guys were also pretty rubbish and the wonderful confrontation on the drilling site where security guards have more jurisdiction than the local law or Res police just sets out the absurdity of modern day law in those regions perfectly.

 

That the NAs in the story are so...ineffective...is central to the film. They have no power, they have no control. They've lost their land, their culture, their law and any protection from the outside world. They all know about the drug den down the road, but with (what?) 3 officers to cover the entire res, they've given up before they've even started. One of the most poignant lines in the film is near the end, when Lambert visits Hanson and he's sat out back.

 

"How do you know that's your death face?"

"I don't, there's nobody left to teach me"

 

That was just fucking heartbreaking.

 

It's definitely a film about Native Americans made by white people for white people, though. I'm not sure how we get away from that.

 

 

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Just watched Green Street for the first time on Netflix. I've avoided the whole football hooligan genre up until now, as it's never looked very appealing. It'll be my first and last time I dip into this frankly weird genre of films. Elijah Wood is hilariously miscast. And Hunnam sounds like a yank trying to do a British accent, even though he's British! An utter pile of shite, basically boner material for chavvy scumbags.

 

I recommend nobody watch it, ever!

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Wolf of Wall Street was added on July 10th, but I could've sworn it was already on there? So, it was added, then however many months later, it's removed. And then added again as "new". How many films does this happen with? Would be nice if there was a way to keep track of how many times something has been added and removed.

 

edit: same goes for Looper. Added on July 6th as "new", apparently. Pretty sure it's been on Netflix before.

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On 14/07/2018 at 20:49, dumpster said:

Loving Staircase, so far I'm three episodes in, and can't believe they haven't noticed......

 

 

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I mean, look at the cuts and bruises on the dead body.  There's no way he's guilty, it's very clear and obvious that these injuries are caused by an owl - it's exactly like what owls do.
 

 

 

 

I'll keep watching, but it just seems so obvious that I can't believe they're pursuing the case at all. 

 

Wouldn't you expect a load of feathers / bits of twig?

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Anyone watched The Legacy of a Whitetail Deerhunter? I’ve really enjoyed it. I was never a fan of Eastbound and Down but loved this. McBride has a lot more depth than I first thought.

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One thing that is startling about The Staircase is the news shows discussing, speculating about and interpreting the evidence during the trial, and even just making stuff up too. What a completely fucked justice system that is. 

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On 15/07/2018 at 18:29, Monkeyboy said:

Wolf of Wall Street was added on July 10th, but I could've sworn it was already on there? So, it was added, then however many months later, it's removed. And then added again as "new". How many films does this happen with? Would be nice if there was a way to keep track of how many times something has been added and removed.

 

edit: same goes for Looper. Added on July 6th as "new", apparently. Pretty sure it's been on Netflix before.

 

On 16/07/2018 at 13:16, ZOK said:

Yes, I watched Wolf of Wall St on Netflix ages ago. Last year, or the year before.

 

Maybe it's because it's the R rated one? I'd never seen that cut before. Me and Mrs. Treb watched it last week, and we were surprised to see Margot Robbie in the nudd. 

 

Her in an academic way, me with a far more positive and excitable response. 

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Not sure if already mentioned.  But I am enjoying Final Space and i'm not a massive cartoon fan with the exception of Rick & Morty.  It does actually remind me a little of it, it's like R&M for the family.

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1 minute ago, ZOK said:

What’s best to watch - Hateful Eight or Wind River?

 

Hateful Eight is nearly 3 hours, I notice...

 

Wind River. 

 

I found Hateful Eight too hateful and a bit tedious. 

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19 minutes ago, ZOK said:

What’s best to watch - Hateful Eight or Wind River?

 

Hateful Eight is nearly 3 hours, I notice...

 

I'd say Hateful Eight, Wind River is very predicatable.

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Wind River is a WAY better a film than Hateful Eight. Neither are stop everything amazing though. Hateful Eight I found a total waste of time though. Not emotionally engaging at all. Wind River is pretty by numbers story wise but it has many a poignant moment and is very well crafted.

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I am certainly in the market for a film I’ve never heard of on Netflix to watch instead of either, those were just two that had popped up in this thread.

 

I thought How It Ends looked interesting, but the Guardian gave it two stars! :sherlock:

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12 hours ago, Cool Ben said:

Not sure if already mentioned.  But I am enjoying Final Space and i'm not a massive cartoon fan with the exception of Rick & Morty.  It does actually remind me a little of it, it's like R&M for the family.

 

YES! Just totally binged on this. It's really... dark humour.

 

Final episode:

 

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And so fucking sad! They killed off everyone... except they'd already proved time travel existed and so maybe, just maybe that bright light at the very end. It's gotta be, hasn't it?

 

Avocato! 

 

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5 hours ago, Danster said:

Hateful eight is all about the acting. And Tim Roth is amazing.

 

It's also split up into acts (a bit like Inglorious Basterds) so you can watch it over a few days if 3 hours feels too long. Hateful Eight actually feels more like you're watching a play at the theatre. Worth a watch. It's close to Resevoir Dogs in that it is set in one room with some flashback sections. I liked it when I watched it.

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Here's a sort of non-recommendation: American Assassin.

 

Seeing Michael Keaton was in it I was curious and the opening scene is pretty shocking and pulls you in.  It then goes downhill pretty quickly and it's like it does it's best to earn an 18 cert.  The action choreography is actually pretty good but it should have an award for worst CGI. So if you like watching shit CGI and gratuitous violence you should give it a go!

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I looked at that too, but remembered it got a panning in here from someone.

 

As it was, I watched some episodes of Rick & Morty instead as I’d never seen it before. I enjoyed it a lot, seems like a funny show.

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I didnt think much of Hateful 8 when I saw it at the cinema, but on repeated viewing it goes up in  my estimation every time I watch it . It really is a great Tarantino film

 

 

 

If you didnt catch it on BBC2 , then watch Ken Burns The Vietnam War series, which is on Netflix now. It is utterly fantastic.

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Had a surprisingly good time watching Netflix film 'I Don't Feel At Home in This World Anymore'. Suitably off beat and quietly funny in a way few films are these days. Definitely a genre piece, doesn't touch your soul like a great film should, but a really fun ride and some lovely dark humour.

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I like Dark Tourist for a bit of a Louis Theroux wannabe experience. It’s weird to me that people want to visit places like Fukushima in particular, whereas the abandoned Japanese mining island/city was actually quite stunning in an eerie, desolate way. 

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Watched 'How it Ends'.  Pretty decent little movie - a sort of apocalyptic road movie.  Nicely shot with good use of CGI and who doesn't love a bit of Forest Whitaker? Having said that, I found the ending hugely dissatisfying!  

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