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I'd blocked that one from memory. The one where Dax and Worf go to the tropical hedonist paradise planet of Risa (filmed on an unfortunately cold and windy week), and Worf is so disapproving of the lax sexual attitudes that he joins a group of terrorists to sabotage Risa's weather control system. So Worf can literally rain on Dax's parade.

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That's definitely one of the worst. But for me the award goes to Voyager's Spirit Folk. If Janeway's godawful Irish holodeck town wasn't bad enough, in this one the annoying twee villagers of this town start developing sentience and somehow manage to hypnotise the Doctor. Y'know, the Emergency Medical Hologram, the computer program, gets hypnotised by a bunch of 19th century Irish holograms. It's just garbage. At least Sub Rosa is infamously terrible. This is just as bad, but people just don't remember it. 

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6 hours ago, deKay said:

When I was a kid, before TNG, I thought the premise of TOS was that the Enterprise was lost in space and was trying to get home.

 

No, the one where the characters were lost in space was Lost in Space.

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1 hour ago, Nick R said:

 

No, the one where the characters were lost in space was Lost in Space.


I hadn’t seen that then!

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There was an episode of DS9 where Quark had a sex change in order to highlight the plight of female Ferregi,  which was as bad as it sounds.

 

Worse though has got to be early TNG episode Code of Honour, which is basically out and out racist to the extent it is literally unwatchable.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Waggo said:

There was an episode of DS9 where Quark had a sex change in order to highlight the plight of female Ferregi,  which was as bad as it sounds.

 

Worse though has got to be early TNG episode Code of Honour, which is basically out and out racist to the extent it is literally unwatchable.

 

 

 

It's a horribly misguided episode but it is possible to watch it.

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3 hours ago, Waggo said:

There was an episode of DS9 where Quark had a sex change in order to highlight the plight of female Ferregi,  which was as bad as it sounds.

 

Worse though has got to be early TNG episode Code of Honour, which is basically out and out racist to the extent it is literally unwatchable.

from the wiki:

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  • Jonathan Frakes referred to the episode as a "racist piece of shit." [3] At a 2007 science fiction convention in Toronto, Canada, he told the audience, "The worst and most embarrassing and one that even Gene would have been embarrassed by was that horrible racist episode from the first season 'Code of Honor', oh my God in heaven!"
  • Brent Spiner regarded this episode as the "worst episode we ever did" and "an inadvertently racist episode." (The Fifty-Year Mission: The Next 25 Years, p. 82) In a 2012 interview with TrekMovie.com, Spiner recalled, "It ["Code of Honor"] was just a racist episode. Maybe not intentionally but it felt that way and looked that way. It was the third episode so it was fortuitous that we did our worst that early on and it never got quite that bad again." [5]
  • According to Wesley Crusher actor Wil Wheaton, 'if the cast wasn't arbitrarily decided to be African-American,' the idea of the episode being racist or non-racist wouldn't have been an issue.
  • Michael Dorn (Worf) does not appear in this episode. This is his first non-appearance. The only other TNG episode in which he does not appear is "Haven". At the 2013 Toronto Comic Con's "An Evening With the Cast of Star Trek: The Next Generation", Dorn referred to this episode as "the worst episode of Star Trek ever filmed," to agreement from the rest of the cast and the crowd. La Forge actor LeVar Burton wasn't proud of the episode, either

Quite telling.

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I watched that quite recently and its awful - not only for being massively racist but the trial by climbing frame at the end just....urrggh. 

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So..my notion of watching seven of nine related episodes of voyager have now changed to watching the best episodes of voyager in general before watching Picard. :rolleyes:

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19 hours ago, iknowgungfu said:

So..my notion of watching seven of nine related episodes of voyager have now changed to watching the best episodes of voyager in general before watching Picard. :rolleyes:

Just watch all of voyager and don't bother with Picard. 

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yeah if you watched Code of Honour then you may as well watch Sub Rosa - Code of Honour is offensively awful with no redeeming features. Sub Rosa is hilariously bad. Mating lizards and Tuvix and a few others are worse than Sub Rosa :)

 

It is just the way in which Sub Rosa  is bad that is so great and makes it so infamous :D

 

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I am surprised The Orville has yet to have a cast member shagged by a ghost.:omg:

 

It’s an open goal for them surely.

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Waggo said:

I am surprised The Orville has yet to have a cast member shagged by a ghost.:omg:

 

It’s an open goal for them surely.

 

 

 

Hey, any anaphasic hole's a goal!

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Just watching Voyager episode - Waking Moment.  Do we think Christopher Nolan may have seen this episode before?

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On this day in 1993... (well, yesterday, but yknow)

 

You’re welcome :lol:

 

 

 

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:lol: One of the worst episodes of, well, any TV. 

 

Ever. ;)

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God I had such a crush on Dax (Terry Farrell) back in those days.  Evil Kira worked for me as well in the mirror universe episodes.:wub:

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27 minutes ago, Waggo said:

God I had such a crush on Dax (Terry Farrell) back in those days.  Evil Kira worked for me as well in the mirror universe episodes.:wub:

 

Don't forget Leeta!

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51 minutes ago, Death's Head said:

 

Don't forget Leeta!

Hottest female in Trek.

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Twitter thread in praise of Kate Mulgrew's performance as Janeway:

 

 

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With old age comes wisdom, or perhaps senility. And it with this in mind that I can now say, with hand on heart...

 

..Neelix isn't that bad really. Yes, he totally is that kind of annoyingly chipper kind of person we all know in real life and want to throttle sometimes but he absolutely means well and his heart is in the right place. His stand-in dad relationship with Naomi is sweet considering what a lonely kid she must be, and the episode where Tuvok gets brain damaged and Neelix does everything he can to put him at ease and help him recover is heartbreaking. Ultimately, I feel he was done dirty the way they find a bunch of his people on the other side of the quadrant and it's decided that's the ending he deserves because no, in a few short years he came to embody everything that is good about the Federation and deserved to see it, and get his ambassadorship.

 

Sure, he's a possessive weirdo in the first couple of seasons while Kes is around but i) Kes is shit and kind of a drag; and ii) once she's out of the picture, he's much better written.

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Heh, maybe it's because I got into Voyager really late (like two or three years ago), but I had no problem with Neelix. :)

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1 hour ago, Joystick Chevron said:

With old age comes wisdom, or perhaps senility. And it with this in mind that I can now say, with hand on heart...

 

..Neelix isn't that bad really. Yes, he totally is that kind of annoyingly chipper kind of person we all know in real life and want to throttle sometimes but he absolutely means well and his heart is in the right place. His stand-in dad relationship with Naomi is sweet considering what a lonely kid she must be, and the episode where Tuvok gets brain damaged and Neelix does everything he can to put him at ease and help him recover is heartbreaking. Ultimately, I feel he was done dirty the way they find a bunch of his people on the other side of the quadrant and it's decided that's the ending he deserves because no, in a few short years he came to embody everything that is good about the Federation and deserved to see it, and get his ambassadorship.

 

Sure, he's a possessive weirdo in the first couple of seasons while Kes is around but i) Kes is shit and kind of a drag; and ii) once she's out of the picture, he's much better written.

Neelix is in Star Trek Online, and is ambassador to the Delta Quadrant for the Federation, and the Delta Alliance:

Delta_Recruitment_Galaxy.png?version=5ef

This is proper Star Trek, all races decide to band together to make a stand against the Iconians, who in STO, actually are the evil enslaving twats that they were theorised to be in TNG.

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Well I finally finished S1 of Enterprise :lol:  Yes I took my sweet time about it but then it wasn't exactly compelling me to rush through it.

 

It was perhaps the most relentlessly average series of TV I have ever seen. It wasn't terrible, it was rarely particularly good, it just sort of trundled along in a haze of adequacy. The cast were OK. The storylines were OK. The set design was OK. It was OK.

 

I did enjoy The Andorian Incident, Cold Front, Dear Doctor, and Shockwave. And it handled the whole episodic thing quite well, with some nice references in later episodes to things that had happened previously, and a few threads persisting throughout the series. But overall it was all very unambitious. Interestingly I thought the first half of the series was more experimental than the second half, which was about as vanilla Trek as it's possible to get.

 

I'm going to carry on watching, it's still enjoyable if undemanding viewing, and I hear it picks up - although it sounds like S2 at least is more of the same.

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I have almost finished season 2 and I think on the whole it has a higher percentage of good episodes than season 1.  It is meant to improve even more for season 3 and 4, so I think you are heading in the right direction.

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Yep, four decent episodes on the trot at the start of season 2, I'm happy with this now. Carbon Creek in particular was excellent.

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Hahaha. I did have a snigger when I looked at an episode list to remind myself which one Carbon Creek was, and saw what you had coming up next. Tbh I don't mind those Phlox episodes as much as some do though!

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