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12 games is incredibly lenient I reckon. That's nothing more than assault when you boil it down. 12 games is what, like a month out or something?

Wouldn't it be closer to three months? If you play once a week anyway, cup competitions would decrease that obviously but I doubt they play that many games a month.

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Balotelli should have got a very lengthy ban for his leg breaking attempts against Arsenal. No excuses. You could put someone out of the game for 2 years with that kind of stuff and they might never play the same way again. If I'd have been Alex Song I'd have been going fucking ballistic. But I guess the pros are kind of used to it... :wacko:

I disagree. Every time I watch MotD it seems like they have too much time and not enough to say. Where there could be some quick tactical analysis you just get Shearer or Hansen filling time by laboriously describing the footage that you've already seen: "As you can see, Rooney picks the ball up on the right here. It's a good pass to Valencia. And that's a great finish. And here again we've circled Valencia. He passes it. Makes a run... that must be 20 yards he's run. He receives the ball. And it's a goal." etc.

Spot on. I cannot stand it when replays are shown and analysts just describe exactly what happens maybe with the addition of a "quality" on the end. And the arrows that they've got now, that show which direction a player is about to run, or kick a ball when the image is paused, before unpausing so we can watch them run or kick in that vague direction. WHAT IN GODS NAME IS THE POINT IN THAT?! Ahem.

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I like the idea that if you injure a player due to serious foul play, you're banned for as long as they're out injured.

It sounds nice on paper, but it doesn't work in practice. Some payers heal better than others, some injuries may never heal. For instance, a broken leg or a broken toe, both will heal. Can a knee injury fully heal?

You have to ban players for a set number of games, and make it harsh. 9 games is a quarter of the season, which seems reasonable.

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It sounds nice on paper, but it doesn't work in practice. Some payers heal better than others, some injuries may never heal. For instance, a broken leg or a broken toe, both will heal. Can a knee injury fully heal?

I guess that's the risk you take if you decide to act like a bell end though. At the moment it's really only the victim who stands to lose anything which is just totally wrong.

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My big problem with MotD, and especially Shearer is that it seems that they are just reading a line which a researcher handed to them on a bit of paper five minutes before the show went on air. The lack of insight is glaring when you consider these people played the game at the highest level.

Which goes to show its not rocket science!! Its just football - how much insight does anyone need that has played the game. I mean fuck it i can turn the commentary off completely and know the players and 'SHOCK' can see then do the things they have just repeated to me. Its a completely known quantity - I;d love to know what these insights are can anyone quote one to me?

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You have to ban players for a set number of games, and make it harsh. 9 games is a quarter of the season, which seems reasonable.

With the amount of cup games in the first half or so of the season 9 games isn't as bad as it sounds. I hate to bring up a Rugby comparison but I quite like the timed bans that cover all competitions. I suspect people would be a lot more careful if they knew flying into tackles in a league game could see them banned for a CL final or the World Cup.

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Which goes to show its not rocket science!! Its just football - how much insight does anyone need that has played the game. I mean fuck it i can turn the commentary off completely and know the players and 'SHOCK' can see then do the things they have just repeated to me. Its a completely known quantity - I;d love to know what these insights are can anyone quote one to me?

The Neville bit on diving is a perfect example. Anybody can point out what players do, but somebody who has played the game can also say why they do it. They can explain the 'dark arts' of defending which most of us are oblivious to, they can talk about how important things which happen on a Tuesday morning at the training ground are on a Saturday afternoon at the game. If a pundit isn't prepared to do that then why go to the trouble of having ex players on at all? I'm sure the BBC and ITV are aware of how well received Guardian Football Weekly is so why not get some journalists in instead? At least then there is a chance that somebody capable of stringing a sentence together gets some air time.

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Which goes to show its not rocket science!! Its just football - how much insight does anyone need that has played the game. I mean fuck it i can turn the commentary off completely and know the players and 'SHOCK' can see then do the things they have just repeated to me. Its a completely known quantity - I;d love to know what these insights are can anyone quote one to me?

I can't pick a specific example now but there has been some insight in MOTD in the past that has actually been worthwhile. How an attacker/defender has had some success in a particular game or how one team has tried to exploit the opposition's weakness in a certain way. Alan Hansen used to do this quite well, usually about good/bad defending.

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Harry Redknapp in the final 5 for best Premiership manager of the last 20 years :lol: for doing what exactly? He's had a few good season with Spurs and won 1 FA Cup with Pompey.

Moyes is in the list too and I can see that cause he's kept Everton as regular mid/upper table on a shoe string budget.

But Redknapp? Seriously?

This may seem bias but both Rafa and Houlier did more at Liverpool than Redknapp has done. They didn't do great in terms of the league, (although they both got Liverpool to 2nd) but in terms of taking control of a Premiership side and achieving something they did.

Dalglish has actually won it too, but he's not really spent much time as a manager in the Prem so I can see why he wouldn't get short listed. Same for Ancelloti who won 3 trophies in 09/10 (incl Charity Shield)

Obviously Fergie will win and rightfully so, but Redknapp in the top 5, someone's having a laugh there.

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I do like Cantona's goal and celebration, but I'm sure there have been some better goals than some of those. No Crouchie volley? Nothing from Ginola? No Scholes volley?

As for Shearers celebration? Iconic, but it's shit.

I also think De Gea's save from Mata's freekick this season should be up there.

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I agree with Neville there. What can you do? It's so widespread that it would be almost impossible to implement bans consistently. I guess it depends if they hypothetically were to introduce retroactive bans for diving, would players really stop?

Just send the divers to the sin bin during the game, let them miss 10/15 minutes of the match thus reducing his team to 10 men.

Give the ref a new card, say a blue one to send the divers to the seat of shame.

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Reading are up after winning tonight. West Ham could only draw and Southampton won so southampton only need one single point from their last two games.

Looks like the play-offs will involve Cardiff, West Ham, Birmingham and Blackpool.

In League 2, although it's mathematically possible for it not to happen and they lost tonight, Swindon are up too as the goal difference between them and 4th is 24 goals in favour of Swindon with just three games to go.

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It'll be the clasico to end all clasicos. After this one it doesn't matter anymore. The build up will be immense and you just know it'll deliver one way or another.

Bayern vs Barca, Bayern vs Chelsea or Chelsea vs Real. Who cares compared to Real vs Barca.

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Even the best looking woman in the world has a man who is bored of fucking her. The number of Madrid - Barcelona games in recent years (and it was four in three weeks, not five in a month at the back end of last season) has diluted the special nature of the fixture if you ask me. That said, I still think it will be a Madrid vs Barcelona final.

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Art Vandelay

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They're generally nasty little affairs that aren't much fun to watch. They remind me a bit of how the Man Utd and Arsenal games ended up before they lost some of their significance. Just way too much pressure on both sides which leads to all the tedious, ugly incidents we get to sit through.

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Not up yet, but check out Mark Hudson's goal for Cardiff tonight.

60 yards following their goalie being a prat and coming out of his area before clearing the ball straight to Hudson. We all shouted "shooot" and he did!!

Beckham's got nothing on him

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