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Rev

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It's much worse to be a racialist and say a word at someone rather than crippling them so they'll never walk again.

Of course we all agree with that, as it's entirely correct.

It's like having Kenny Dalglish on the forum.

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Sirloin

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There's been a remarkable amount of "bottling" about in the top leagues of Europe this season, Real in Spain, Man City in England, PSG in France, Milan in Italy, Bayern in Germany. Was looking at the tables in the back of WS last night from October, an just about every team that was more than 5 points clear at the top has been totally hauled back. Rangers too even without the deduction.

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Shimmyhill

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The fear the FA and FIFA have of doing anything with the game is just pathetic.

Goal line tech is just about crawling into existence and I know football is a very different game to its closest cousins Rugby and American Football but Jesus the officiating in that is a world apart. Not to say it's perfect but at least they try something!

Yeah, in rugby no one cheats and refs get all decisions right, esp not with blood packs in their mouths...

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Kelthink

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http://blogs.telegra...al-correctness/

All this arguing over the days of the FA Cup semis is silly. I'd be delighted if i were Chelsea and could blame Liverpool and the FA for getting smashed by Barca.

I think if Davies had even a slither of tact in the deliverance of his comments he might have walked away unscathed. But saying

"that gets on my tits that shit"

"My mum died on 22 August. I don't stay in all day on 22 August. Do they play on the date of the Heysel Stadium disaster?" (classy!)

"How many dates do they not play on? Do Man United play on the date of Munich? Do Rangers play on the date when all their fans died in that disaster whatever year that was – 1971?"

The Hillsborough disaster is a convoluted tragedy that has not been afforded remotely similar closure of other footballing tragedies, even after all this time. Perhaps once the affected get the answers they deserve this date can become available for football again but not now.

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Liamness

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I can see the FA's twisted logic in both decisions. With Ballotelli, they're saying the referee saw the incident, and they don't want to undermine his judgement. With Derry, they're saying the referee had not stopped play, so they're saying the fact that play should've stopped is immaterial.

However, both decisions run against common sense. Ballotelli's tackle on Song was exactly the kind which the FA is supposed to be clamping down on; why on earth would they refuse to make an example of him? It was completely reckless, and could've well broken his leg if his foot were planted. Not rescinding Derry's red card and ban on the other hand, is just adding insult to injury. QPR have already been wrongly punished during the game, what on earth does it achieve to continue punishing them in games to come? It would be different if the incident was violent, as then it wouldn't matter if play had stopped. It obviously wasn't though.

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Art Vandelay

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The blood packs incident is an extraordinarily stupid example to cite as several people were dealt with by tribunal after the event in a very firm manner, a procedure almost exactly the opposite as the one adopted by the FA to deal with arrogant cunts like Mario Ballotelli.

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Shimmyhill

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My point was clearly tongue in cheek and aimed more at the point that in all games people will cheat to gain an advantage, in all walks of life people push the rules or bend them and the discussion has been about cheating and not goal line video replays (that will have not affected any of th decisions being discussed over the past few days)

You can have the best officials in the world but it will not stop simulation/cheating/beinding the rules and its not like rugby hasn't had its controversial poor referring decisions in the recent past - the simple fact is that its not as popular sport in the mass media/public view so doesn't make as much news/opinion.

The blood pack thing was relevant to the point that it proves cheating to the highest level goes on in Rugby, it blatantly wasn't the first time it was done just the time the culprit was caught out - IMO that level of cheating was far higher than the diving you get in football as thats down to an individual in a moment of time not a player and coaching staff premeditating it.

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dr_manhattan^

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I'm actually really pleased with the sending off and scoreline, I feel relieved now, much rather this than lose 2-1 in the last ten minutes or something like that. I can't wait to get relegated - it's the hope that kills you, the longer we're in with a chance of staying up, the harder it all is to take.

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dr_manhattan^

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I suppose being a Wolves supporter doesn't help either.

Sorry. :(

Nah it's fine, I'm quite removed from it to be honest. I'm made a conscience decision to distance myself from it all. The ineptitude of our upper management plus the bias of the FA has really killed football for me now.

It's just not fun any more.

And this is not just Wolves bias, I was outraged about the up holding of that QPR red card this week, plus all the decisions going against Wigan at the moment. Just doesn't feel like a fair sport to me anymore.

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Plissken

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There was a good point made on the Graun this week - Martinez for all his faults isn't a serial moaner about the officiating and is always well spoken and polite. So for him to come out with the comments he did about the officiating shows how deeply he feels about it.

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phresh

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This from the Guardian feed sums it up for me -

....you've called Wigan's disallowed goal poorly I feel. No conspiracy here - De Gea is physically stopped from doing his job. You can see he's trying to get past Caldwell, with nothing doing. The biggest giveaway however? Caldwell with big arms up giving it the classic "I'm innocent, guv" pose before as the ball flies off Moses's head.

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Rev

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Nah it's fine, I'm quite removed from it to be honest. I'm made a conscience decision to distance myself from it all. The ineptitude of our upper management plus the bias of the FA has really killed football for me now.

It's just not fun any more.

And this is not just Wolves bias, I was outraged about the up holding of that QPR red card this week, plus all the decisions going against Wigan at the moment. Just doesn't feel like a fair sport to me anymore.

On the one hand, I'm tempted to agree with you. On the other, Karl Henry.

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